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I'm Not Spiritual, I'm Religious
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Atsbhct
Because for almost all religions, this earthly life is a test for what comes after. The transcendence you speak of is realizing that and not getting mired in the cares of the earth as if they are all (i.e realizing there is more, bigger and better, and that you are a tiny part of it). The morals are part of preparing yourself, and the stories are simply the surface level. If you fail to see beyond, then you aren't transcending to that spiritual plain you want people to reach.
I say that as Christian who sees it in my own faith and teachings.
When does everyone think religion will transcend from stories+morals to just a vague spirituality or more personal worship?
Luke 14:25 Now great multitudes were going with him. He turned and said to them, 26"If anyone comes to me, and doesn't disregard his own father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he can't be my disciple. 27Whoever doesn't bear his own cross, and come after me, can't be my disciple. …
33So therefore whoever of you who doesn't renounce all that he has, he can't be my disciple.
originally posted by: Atsbhct
Personally, I'm not religious, not even a believer, honestly; but, I do enjoy thinking about theology and for the most part think people should be able to enjoy their religion however they see fit as long as it doesn't unduly suppress others.
I do often wonder how religion is still as big as it is, with most religions believing in the same thing but different. When does everyone think religion will transcend from stories+morals to just a vague spirituality or more personal worship?
Matthew 13:10 The disciples came, and said to him, "Why do you speak to them in parables?" 11He answered them, "To you it is given to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, but it is not given to them. 12For whoever has, to him will be given, and he will have abundance, but whoever doesn't have, from him will be taken away even that which he has. 13Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they don't see, and hearing, they don't hear, neither do they understand.
Matthew 17:14 When they came to the multitude, a man came to him, kneeling down to him, saying, 15"Lord, have mercy on my son, for he is epileptic, and suffers grievously; for he often falls into the fire, and often into the water. 16So I brought him to your disciples, and they could not cure him." 17Jesus answered, "Faithless and perverse generation! How long will I be with you? How long will I bear with you? Bring him here to me." 18Jesus rebuked him, the demon went out of him, and the boy was cured from that hour.
19Then the disciples came to Jesus privately, and said, "Why weren't we able to cast it out?" 20He said to them, "Because of your unbelief. For most certainly I tell you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will tell this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you. 21But this kind doesn't go out except by prayer and fasting."
I personally think that the "new-agey" notions of "next-evolutionary stage" right around the corner are kind of a dead end.