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YouTube Just Demonetized Secureteam10 For Misleading BS

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posted on May, 26 2019 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: opethPA

Oh sure I do. When they take a person who makes their livelihood on their platform and they demonetize them because they disagree with what they say, not because they actually violated terms of service. The purpose is to silence. That's censorship.

It's hilarious the ends some are willing to go to to defend censorship.
Youtube takes down video because they disagree with the political opinions > Not censorship
Youtube demonetizes channel because they disagree political opinions > Not censorship

Pray tell, what qualifies as censorship in your narrow view? Do they need to leave the videos up and put black bars and bleeps throughout it for it to qualify for censorship?


Censorship would be the Govt telling me I can't watch the hoax videos that ST10 puts up or to a more stringent level taking the videos down which in turn determines what I have access to.

Censorship isn't a company preventing someone else from making money off those same hoax videos while it runs on that companies infrastructure, requires that companies support or leverages their business model.

It's cool though with my narrow view I don't have to worry any more about seeing the latest ST10 hoax video so that's a benefit.


So, every video he posts is a hoax video? Is that what you are saying?




posted on May, 26 2019 @ 06:53 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

Ahh, that's the dividing line huh? Government has to do it to be censorship. I guess maybe the phone company could just cut off your call center too if they disagree with you politically. Maybe they should do that to planned parenthood or CAIR. Heck, maybe we could get VISA/Mastercard/Amex/discover to refuse to do business with you as well. I mean, why you gotta use their infrastructure to do things they disagree with? Why stop there? Why don't we have those companies stop allowing donations to politicians they disagree with? They can just take cash or wire transfers. Unless of course the bank also doesn't agree with them.

Remember, you don't need to use their infrastructure! They're free to deny service! Unless it's a cake amirite!?? But then that analogy doesn't make sense as they weren't being denied products/services provided they were being denied the creation of new products/services for their wants.

So again I will repeat my original point. Our fascists have arrived in the form of silicon valley tech companies.



posted on May, 26 2019 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: opethPAHere is the thing about that.(Not All )is pretty important language if you are gonna decide to censor someone.
This is like bullying people on the internet for making words a crime and videos a crime.This is some serious BS with these social media giants going on which will lead to future dictators if not stopped.



posted on May, 26 2019 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

This "it's not censorship" argument is a slice of swiss cheese.



posted on May, 26 2019 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite
You are 100% correct and it is the most wreckless thing going on in the world and this country...How in the hell is this not being stopped...This is fascism and people are to ignorant to know what the hell fascism really is.You get cut off from YouTube you no longer can watch and buy a movie off them.....Amazon,Hulu,Facebook,YouTube,etc. can do this do whom ever they please.



posted on May, 26 2019 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: Jobeycool

It really is quite dangerous. The government needs to label these social media companies as utilities. It really is just the next evolution of communication and needs to be treated as such.

Isn't it funny how people were all sure ISP's were going to start censoring what you could see and were all on board for net neutrality and since then, it's not the ISP's censoring, it's the social media site. Funny enough, the social media companies were all of the same companies pushing net neutrality. I would say they're trying to make a point but net neutrality was not pointed at them, it was pointed at others when they supported it.



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 04:24 AM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: EternalShadow
a reply to: uncommitted

As of today, his channel was remonetized by Youtube.

Hundreds of thousands of people slammed YouTube for their action.

Pays to be united.



If you like, but it's not censorship if it's a private company, they are allowed to make such decisions.


When a lot of companies like youtube being told to clamp down on fake news, then it is censership. Does not matter if they are a private company or not.

Facebook has also cracked under this pressure banning a lot of pages and people from facebook. So you can shout private company all you like, still does not change the fact that this is censership.


Right, it's censorship, just so you know.

And no, not really, Facebook and other sites have been told that they aren't immune from facing charges if they allow posts to break actual laws..... as in showing graphic pictures of self harm and suicide. That is so not the case here, so why are you trying to draw a parallel?


So you think that facebook are just censoring graphic pictures of self harm and suicide? Seriously? So people like Alex Jones, Tony Robinson were banned because of this? Simple fact is, they are coming down hard on free speech, non mainstream media. Even David Icke was banned from entering Austrailia to do a speech.

Love them or hate them, do you think that is right?

Where will it stop? Maybe this very gorum, and forums like it will get shut down because there are threads that involve anti government, hate, fake news, conspiracies etc

Can you not seriously see the problem here?


You mean Tommy Robinson don't you? Not aware of a Tony Robinson causing this. or are you thinking of the actor who played Baldrick? Blocking of Tommy Robinson AKA Saxley-Lennon is because (I believe) of extreme far right views and inciting hatred and violence. You got an issue with that? If so, take that up with the T's and C's of Facebook which ban it.

Free society, Facebook and other social media outlets don't have to host the views of fakers or scum or anyone else. We laugh when some say the UK is socialist, it's not, media outlets have every right to control whose views are represented on their channels, although some don't seem to give too much thought to it.


It's called free speech!

You just do not get it do you! So basically, what you are saying is its fine, as long as it involves people you do not like. Like i said, which you blatantly ignored, it's all about free speech, but not just that, alternative media will be effected by this too. These "private companies" have had a lot of pressure from the top to clamp down on fake news, media, anything that goes against the normal.

Let me ask you again, and please answer this time. What if ATS was shut down because it is full of threads that include conspiracies, alternative media, anti government etc

You think that would be ok?


Sheesh, grow up, read what I write and then respond.

ATS has T's and C's. Even in these weird times, if you don't stick to them then your post will be removed and you can be banned, either for a short period of time or completely (under your current name). They are not under any obligation to find themselves in court because of your comments or anyone else's.

Youtube is the same.

Now, grow up



Seriously! You do not have a clue what you are talking about! Already governments have proposed measures to regulate social media companies over harmful content, including "substantial" fines and the ability to block services that do not stick to the rules. And yes, this includes fake news.

This is just the begining. You think sites like this that spread fake news, conspiracies, hate speech in some cases, anti government, and all sorts of other stuff will not be effected by this clamp down?

If you think not, then you are ignorant.


What a government decides to do is something for which you can hold them into account if they violate whichever code of practice they have been put in office to uphold. A company such as youtube (or ATS) can set its own rules. Don't like them? Don't use them - finding it hard to think you don't really appreciate the difference.


All of this banning we are seeing now, comes from pressure from an outside source. So, it does not matter if you are a private company, if they feel you should be banned or shut down, they can do it.


You do know they haven't banned SecureTeam10 don't you? They have just stopped them raking in money on youtube from the gullible.



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 04:34 AM
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originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: EternalShadow
a reply to: uncommitted

As of today, his channel was remonetized by Youtube.

Hundreds of thousands of people slammed YouTube for their action.

Pays to be united.



If you like, but it's not censorship if it's a private company, they are allowed to make such decisions.


When a lot of companies like youtube being told to clamp down on fake news, then it is censership. Does not matter if they are a private company or not.

Facebook has also cracked under this pressure banning a lot of pages and people from facebook. So you can shout private company all you like, still does not change the fact that this is censership.


Right, it's censorship, just so you know.

And no, not really, Facebook and other sites have been told that they aren't immune from facing charges if they allow posts to break actual laws..... as in showing graphic pictures of self harm and suicide. That is so not the case here, so why are you trying to draw a parallel?


So you think that facebook are just censoring graphic pictures of self harm and suicide? Seriously? So people like Alex Jones, Tony Robinson were banned because of this? Simple fact is, they are coming down hard on free speech, non mainstream media. Even David Icke was banned from entering Austrailia to do a speech.

Love them or hate them, do you think that is right?

Where will it stop? Maybe this very gorum, and forums like it will get shut down because there are threads that involve anti government, hate, fake news, conspiracies etc

Can you not seriously see the problem here?


You mean Tommy Robinson don't you? Not aware of a Tony Robinson causing this. or are you thinking of the actor who played Baldrick? Blocking of Tommy Robinson AKA Saxley-Lennon is because (I believe) of extreme far right views and inciting hatred and violence. You got an issue with that? If so, take that up with the T's and C's of Facebook which ban it.

Free society, Facebook and other social media outlets don't have to host the views of fakers or scum or anyone else. We laugh when some say the UK is socialist, it's not, media outlets have every right to control whose views are represented on their channels, although some don't seem to give too much thought to it.


It's called free speech!

You just do not get it do you! So basically, what you are saying is its fine, as long as it involves people you do not like. Like i said, which you blatantly ignored, it's all about free speech, but not just that, alternative media will be effected by this too. These "private companies" have had a lot of pressure from the top to clamp down on fake news, media, anything that goes against the normal.

Let me ask you again, and please answer this time. What if ATS was shut down because it is full of threads that include conspiracies, alternative media, anti government etc

You think that would be ok?


Sheesh, grow up, read what I write and then respond.

ATS has T's and C's. Even in these weird times, if you don't stick to them then your post will be removed and you can be banned, either for a short period of time or completely (under your current name). They are not under any obligation to find themselves in court because of your comments or anyone else's.

Youtube is the same.

Now, grow up



Seriously! You do not have a clue what you are talking about! Already governments have proposed measures to regulate social media companies over harmful content, including "substantial" fines and the ability to block services that do not stick to the rules. And yes, this includes fake news.

This is just the begining. You think sites like this that spread fake news, conspiracies, hate speech in some cases, anti government, and all sorts of other stuff will not be effected by this clamp down?

If you think not, then you are ignorant.


What a government decides to do is something for which you can hold them into account if they violate whichever code of practice they have been put in office to uphold. A company such as youtube (or ATS) can set its own rules. Don't like them? Don't use them - finding it hard to think you don't really appreciate the difference.


All of this banning we are seeing now, comes from pressure from an outside source. So, it does not matter if you are a private company, if they feel you should be banned or shut down, they can do it.


You do know they haven't banned SecureTeam10 don't you? They have just stopped them raking in money on youtube from the gullible.


Don't you read? I said we are seeing this type of thing across all social media platforms. YouTube channels have been banned, esp regarding supposed fake news.

As for being gullible. I have watched some if his videos. Does that mean I am gullible?



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 08:08 AM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: EternalShadow
a reply to: uncommitted

As of today, his channel was remonetized by Youtube.

Hundreds of thousands of people slammed YouTube for their action.

Pays to be united.



If you like, but it's not censorship if it's a private company, they are allowed to make such decisions.


When a lot of companies like youtube being told to clamp down on fake news, then it is censership. Does not matter if they are a private company or not.

Facebook has also cracked under this pressure banning a lot of pages and people from facebook. So you can shout private company all you like, still does not change the fact that this is censership.


Right, it's censorship, just so you know.

And no, not really, Facebook and other sites have been told that they aren't immune from facing charges if they allow posts to break actual laws..... as in showing graphic pictures of self harm and suicide. That is so not the case here, so why are you trying to draw a parallel?


So you think that facebook are just censoring graphic pictures of self harm and suicide? Seriously? So people like Alex Jones, Tony Robinson were banned because of this? Simple fact is, they are coming down hard on free speech, non mainstream media. Even David Icke was banned from entering Austrailia to do a speech.

Love them or hate them, do you think that is right?

Where will it stop? Maybe this very gorum, and forums like it will get shut down because there are threads that involve anti government, hate, fake news, conspiracies etc

Can you not seriously see the problem here?


You mean Tommy Robinson don't you? Not aware of a Tony Robinson causing this. or are you thinking of the actor who played Baldrick? Blocking of Tommy Robinson AKA Saxley-Lennon is because (I believe) of extreme far right views and inciting hatred and violence. You got an issue with that? If so, take that up with the T's and C's of Facebook which ban it.

Free society, Facebook and other social media outlets don't have to host the views of fakers or scum or anyone else. We laugh when some say the UK is socialist, it's not, media outlets have every right to control whose views are represented on their channels, although some don't seem to give too much thought to it.


It's called free speech!

You just do not get it do you! So basically, what you are saying is its fine, as long as it involves people you do not like. Like i said, which you blatantly ignored, it's all about free speech, but not just that, alternative media will be effected by this too. These "private companies" have had a lot of pressure from the top to clamp down on fake news, media, anything that goes against the normal.

Let me ask you again, and please answer this time. What if ATS was shut down because it is full of threads that include conspiracies, alternative media, anti government etc

You think that would be ok?


Sheesh, grow up, read what I write and then respond.

ATS has T's and C's. Even in these weird times, if you don't stick to them then your post will be removed and you can be banned, either for a short period of time or completely (under your current name). They are not under any obligation to find themselves in court because of your comments or anyone else's.

Youtube is the same.

Now, grow up



Seriously! You do not have a clue what you are talking about! Already governments have proposed measures to regulate social media companies over harmful content, including "substantial" fines and the ability to block services that do not stick to the rules. And yes, this includes fake news.

This is just the begining. You think sites like this that spread fake news, conspiracies, hate speech in some cases, anti government, and all sorts of other stuff will not be effected by this clamp down?

If you think not, then you are ignorant.


What a government decides to do is something for which you can hold them into account if they violate whichever code of practice they have been put in office to uphold. A company such as youtube (or ATS) can set its own rules. Don't like them? Don't use them - finding it hard to think you don't really appreciate the difference.


All of this banning we are seeing now, comes from pressure from an outside source. So, it does not matter if you are a private company, if they feel you should be banned or shut down, they can do it.


You do know they haven't banned SecureTeam10 don't you? They have just stopped them raking in money on youtube from the gullible.


Don't you read? I said we are seeing this type of thing across all social media platforms. YouTube channels have been banned, esp regarding supposed fake news.

As for being gullible. I have watched some if his videos. Does that mean I am gullible?


This thread is about SecureTeam10 no longer gaining revenue from clickbait on its youtube channel, why are you trying to make it about something else?

Are you gullible? I've read many of your posts, I have a feeling you want to believe what suits your bias, so make of that what you will.....



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: uncommitted


Are you gullible? I've read many of your posts, I have a feeling you want to believe what suits your bias, so make of that what you will.....


Really? So you have read my posts? What is my beliefs then when it comes to ufos?



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: Jay-morris




Er, a lot of the times, this is what successful You tubers do, and there is absolutly nothing wrong with that. He is talking about a subject people are interested in, and he does it full time. Saying he is doing nothing to further the subject of ufos is quite rediculas because obviously he is. He does not just post videos people have sent him, he has videos talking about ufo cases old and new, interviews ufologists etc Anyone who does that, and gets more people into the subject is always good for ufology.


Exactly, that points to it more so being about entertainment to get paid by those supplying and creating/editing videos sent to them, not to further the subject, not to get any closer to any sort of disclosure.

Tyler's reaction speaks volumes about his agenda.

More people doesn't automatically mean its a benefit.

A benefit to him, yes, but not to Ufology.

More people just means more division in the case of Ufology and just about anything conspiracy related.

Yes, he is talking about a subject people are interested in, if you think that furthers Ufology then good for you.

Good publicity or bad publicity , it makes no difference to one making money from members of the public viewing their material.



What is my beliefs then when it comes to ufos?


For not really caring about the channel this thread is about you seem to want argue a lot about points like I said that can have some relevance like Karl12s idea on page 4 but not how you are expressing yourself.

Karl actually put up his idea and said "call me paranoid" and spelled out what he thought which is a interesting point of view in my opinion, all you are doing is pointing at Facebook and saying, 'see, pages and what not banned because fake news'. That has nothing to do with Secureteam being demonetized.

Nothing was censored or banned, Just because someone thinks your gullible on the net doesn't mean you need to react and try make the thread about yourself after trying to make it or argue about other sites banning pages and what not.



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 09:14 AM
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originally posted by: Jobeycool
a reply to: Dfairlite
You are 100% correct and it is the most wreckless thing going on in the world and this country...How in the hell is this not being stopped...This is fascism and people are to ignorant to know what the hell fascism really is.You get cut off from YouTube you no longer can watch and buy a movie off them.....Amazon,Hulu,Facebook,YouTube,etc. can do this do whom ever they please.


So a company chooses if people can make money off the infrastructure + support + everything else they provide and that equals censorship ?

Oh wait I see it..I must not be able to find ST10 videos on YouTube anymore, no wait that isn't true so it's not an example of censorship: www.youtube.com...

Maybe if I go to a search engine and type in SecureTeam10 and Youtube nothing will be shown..that would be a good example of censorship: Nope, that gives me the first link of ST10 on YT.



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 09:40 AM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

Don't you read? I said we are seeing this type of thing across all social media platforms. YouTube channels have been banned, esp regarding supposed fake news.


No SecureTeam videos were banned. They were all still right there on YouTube, available for anyone to watch. What they did was prevent SecureTeam from profiting because YouTube felt that SecureTeam was misleading the people who clicked through on their videos.

If I had to guess, I'd say that enough people reported the channel after the video they watched was misrepresented by the title and description. After a certain number of reports, YouTube likely steps in and takes some action of some sort.

And personally I'm glad the were demonetized if it means changes to SecureTeams channel, which is currently crap.. I think SecureTeam is doing harm to the subject of UFO studies through their misleading business model.

Many people click their videos because they are interested in the subject of UFOs and are led to believe (through SecureTeam's video descriptions and titles) that the videos they click on contain UFO "information" (i.e., videos that help to further the study of UFOs, because). However, it often turns out to be nothing more than "entertainment" (i.e., often videos that are painfully obvious are not real UFOs or videos that intentionally mislead, and thus are detrimental to the study of UFOs).

For a lot of those people seeking UFO information on SecureTeam's channel and instead get garbage, it is too late. Their clicks have already added to the profitability of a channel that hurts instead of helps the study of UFOs.



As for being gullible. I have watched some if his videos. Does that mean I am gullible?

There is nothing wrong with watching his videos if you persnally choose to. However, most people like to know what they are about to watch before their click results in potential added revenue for the channel.

People want the power to choose who/what they are allowing to profit from the viewing of commercial online videos.

With SecureTeam, that often isn't easy due to the misleading methods SecureTeam uses to describe and title their videos. The people clicking think they are helping advance the study of the field of UFOs, when what they are mostly doing is encouraging more intentionally misleading and misrepresented videos that harm the subject of UFO studies.


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posted on May, 27 2019 @ 10:37 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
Ahh, that's the dividing line huh? Government has to do it to be censorship. I guess maybe the phone company could just cut off your call center too if they disagree with you politically.



originally posted by: Dfairlite
Isn't it funny how people were all sure ISP's were going to start censoring what you could see and were all on board for net neutrality and since then, it's not the ISP's censoring, it's the social media site.


No videos were cut off. YouTube did nothing to stop you or anyone else from watching any SecureTeam video, and they didn't do anything that blocked SecureTeam from uploading more videos to their channel.

In fact, the people going to YouTube to watch a SecureTeam video might not have even noticed that SecureTeam's channel was demonetized. Their channel and all of the videos were still there. Clicking on them brought them right up just like it was before they were demonetized....

...Actually, there would be one difference. There would no longer be any advertisements attached to SecureTeam's videos. It would just be the videos minus the advertising.


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posted on May, 27 2019 @ 11:50 AM
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Exactly, that points to it more so being about entertainment to get paid by those supplying and creating/editing videos sent to them, not to further the subject, not to get any closer to any sort of disclosure. 

Tyler's reaction speaks volumes about his agenda. 

More people doesn't automatically mean its a benefit. 

A benefit to him, yes, but not to Ufology. 

More people just means more division in the case of Ufology and just about anything conspiracy related. 

Yes, he is talking about a subject people are interested in, if you think that furthers Ufology then good for you. 

Good publicity or bad publicity , it makes no difference to one making money from members of the public viewing their material. 


Sorry but completly disagree! It's obvious he loves the subject, and he is very knows a lot about the subject. You say it does nothing for ufology as a whole, but what does? Almost all of ufology is people analysing cases old and new, analysing movie footage and photos interviewing witnesess etc. Please tell me what more can be done to further the subject of ufos?

Not much can be done, but there is nothing wrong with turning something you are passionate about and making a living out of it.


For not really caring about the channel this thread is about you seem to want argue a lot about points like I said that can have some relevance like Karl12s idea on page 4 but not how you are expressing yourself. 


When did I say I did not care about the channel? I said I was not too fussed about the footage he is sent, but his channel is not just about that. A lot of his videos talks about interesting ufo cases, interviews etc


Nothing was censored or banned, Just because someone thinks your gullible on the net doesn't mean you need to react and try make the thread about yourself after trying to make it or argue about other sites banning pages and what not.


Of course I need to react. One thing I cannot stand is clueless people who instantly think you hold a certain belief, just because they disagree with you.

He did not reply because he most prob spent a bit of time going through my history and realised I am not as gullible as he said!



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: Box of Rain


No SecureTeam videos were banned. They were all still right there on YouTube, available for anyone to watch. What they did was prevent SecureTeam from profiting because YouTube felt that SecureTeam was misleading the people who clicked through on their videos. 


If that was the case, then why did youtube change their mind the next day? Obviously it was a mistake. If they done it because he was being misleading (which he has not) then they would not have changed their mind obviously.


If I had to guess, I'd say that enough people reported the channel after the video they watched was misrepresented by the title and description. After a certain number of reports, YouTube likely steps in and takes some action of some sort. 


If I had a guess, I would say it was a mistake, hence the reason why it was back to normal the next day. I have seen a lot of his videos, and not once have I thought his title was misleading. Yes it has to attract attention, just like 98% of YouTube videos.


And personally I'm glad the were demonetized if it means changes to SecureTeams channel, which is currently crap.. I think SecureTeam is doing harm to the subject of UFO studies through their misleading business model. 


Absolute rubbish! I am sorry, but that's all I can say on that!


Many people click their videos because they are interested in the subject of UFOs and are led to believe (through SecureTeam's video descriptions and titles) that the videos they click on contain UFO "information" (i.e., videos that help to further the study of UFOs, because). However, it often turns out to be nothing more than "entertainment" (i.e., often videos that are painfully obvious are not real UFOs or videos that intentionally mislead, and thus are detrimental to the study of UFOs). 

For a lot of those people seeking UFO information on SecureTeam's channel and instead get garbage, it is too late. Their clicks have already added to the profitability of a channel that hurtsinstead of helps the study of UFOs. 



Sorry, but that is nonsense! A lot of his videos are very informative, and not once have I felt mislead by a title. Think you are going a bit over the top on this.

Scroll through videos on YouTube. Most of them have eye catching titles. If they were to ban all of them, then about 10% of channels would be left!


With SecureTeam, that often isn't easy due to the misleading methods SecureTeam uses to describe and title their videos. The people clicking think they are helping advance the study of the field of UFOs, when what they are mostly doing is encouraging more intentionally misleading and misrepresented videos that harm the subject of UFO studies. 



Seriously! This is nonsense! If he is as bad as you say he is, which he is not, youtube would not have changed their minds a day later!

Why is it the people who hate the channel are the ones going so over the top in regards to his titles?



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris




Sorry but completly disagree!


With what?

you quoted a few things, everything you quoted?




It's obvious he loves the subject, and he is very knows a lot about the subject.


NO

Just No

some videos he has posted takes 2 minutes to search google and find out what it is.

Yet its titled as UFO when he presents them.





Please tell me what more can be done to further the subject of ufos?


Real scientific studies like what is being done with the Hessdalen lights.

If footage is analyzed then have people that understand what information is required such as what camera was used, by knowing that will allow the specs and its limitations to be known.

most people that watch UFO videos fail to even comprehend that the type of camera is important to analyze the video or image.

as many details as one can get, time, location, direction of view.

Over the years I have realized simple observational concepts like perspective is something many making conclusions after watching a video or giving details of things they have seen is beyond them.

Other details like time, location and direction seem to be ignored by quite a few that "investigate" because chances are a rational explanation can be found

Very few cases have had a scientific approach and most of Ufology is investigated by an opinionated approach which more often than not is done so from a bias point of view even from so called experts and whistle blowers in the subject. Its a circus.

and the military, energy and aviation sectors of society like it this way.




Not much can be done, but there is nothing wrong with turning something you are passionate about and making a living out of it.


Did I once say there was some wrong about doing something and making money out of something you are passionate about?

All you are doing is claiming he is passionate, is this opinion based on you watching some of his videos?

or

Do you have something invested in his channel, do you know him?

You seem to want argue a whole lot simply because people are pointing out there was no censorship.

Actually, quite a lot more can be done if there is less division in the field of Ufology.

channels like secureteam and a few others that ask to send in pics and videos don't help to further ufology it simply helps spread Ufology to wider audience, which in Tyler's case just means more revenue.

Yes he can have interest in the subject, but his main reason for doing what he does is to make money, its why he kicked up a fuss because YouTube tried to demonetize his channel.



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 12:46 PM
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If that was the case, then why did youtube change their mind the next day?


Money.

His channel has a few million subscribers does it not?




If they done it because he was being misleading (which he has not) then they would not have changed their mind obviously.


No,

having millions of people that support his channel be against a policy YouTube was trying to enforce would cost YouTube more as in the possibility to lose revenue from pissing off that many viewers than they would gain if they let it go.

Its all about making money.




Absolute rubbish! I am sorry, but that's all I can say on that!


Yes because you seem to think a larger and more divided community would somehow help further the field.




Why is it the people who hate the channel are the ones going so over the top in regards to his titles?


Why is all this so personal to you is a more interesting question.

People have the opinion about his motivations and his way of running his channel that differs from yours and all you can reply with is "nonsense!" "absolute rubbish".

Why so emotional and defensive?



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 01:03 PM
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As you ignored most of my answers , not going to bother quoting you this time, as it is no point. You say they changed their mind because they make too much money. That simply does not make any sense! YouTube has done the same to bigger channels, a lit bigger than secure team, so what you say does not make any sense at all.

It is obvious they did not change their mind because of money, and was more likely to be a mistake. They said they done it because his titles were misleading, yet they changed it the next day, and mentioned nothing about changing his titles. Actually, they sent him no message, so obviously a mistake.



posted on May, 27 2019 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: Box of Rain


No SecureTeam videos were banned. They were all still right there on YouTube, available for anyone to watch. What they did was prevent SecureTeam from profiting because YouTube felt that SecureTeam was misleading the people who clicked through on their videos. 


If that was the case, then why did youtube change their mind the next day? Obviously it was a mistake. If they done it because he was being misleading (which he has not) then they would not have changed their mind obviously.



Maybe SecureTeam promised Youtube that they would be less misleading in the future. Perhaps YouTube is treating this like a stern warning or probation or something.

The demonetizing might have been done to get SecureTeam's attention so they knew that Youtube was serious about it.


As I mentioned on another thread, it likely is NOT the case that YouTube is trying to quiet SecurTeam because of the UFO subject matter of their videos. I say that because there are other monetized YouTube channels that deal with the study of UFOs that don't seem to run afoul of YouTube.



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