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2nd judge refuses to block House subpoenas for Trump bank records

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posted on May, 23 2019 @ 12:21 AM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
What crime are we looking for or is it just for the lulz?


Tax evasion.




posted on May, 23 2019 @ 12:23 AM
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originally posted by: PraetorianAZ

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Lysergic
What crime are we looking for or is it just for the lulz?




Doubtful there's any crime to be found, however it is interesting trump is fighting to keep the records sealed, if he claims it may undermine his presidency it's fairly reasonable to assume he has something to hide.


So because I don't want my personal info looked into I must be shady? I guess privacy = crime these days.


He's not supposed to be running the Trump businesses anymore.

The only reason I can think of for him withholding the information is that he's been naughty.



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 12:33 AM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
Pure fishing expedition, is he hiding something possibly... also possibly most people without experience with his amount of money being used it will do nothing other than appear to be something possibly bad.

Either thing is possible.


Well, I smell something fishy.




posted on May, 23 2019 @ 12:36 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Lysergic
What crime are we looking for or is it just for the lulz?


Tax evasion.


Tax evasion as a private citizen? Fine him the max allowed, prison time if deemed appropriate. He was still a private citizen before he was inaugurated and not a public official. What does that have to do with his ability to run the country?



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 12:50 AM
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Yeah the irs who audited his return missed tax evasion?
Lol
It is the irs' job.

This is flat out ridiculous.



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 12:52 AM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: LDragonFire
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I would rather follow the Constitution with these matters.


Can you quote where in the Constitution that the House of
Representatives has complete oversight of the Executive branch?

Asking for America...



Waiting for Constitutional Scholar Alyssa Milano to publish an officially certified opinion 😎



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 12:53 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
Well, I smell something fishy.



Time for a shower ? 😎 and don't forget.........

the final touch that counts

😆

edit on May-23-2019 by xuenchen because: Q😎😎L



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 02:42 AM
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originally posted by: DanDanDat

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Lysergic
What crime are we looking for or is it just for the lulz?




Doubtful there's any crime to be found, however it is interesting trump is fighting to keep the records sealed, if he claims it may undermine his presidency it's fairly reasonable to assume he has something to hide.


Im sickend to hear thinking like this.

ethically/legally the worse I've done in my life is perhaps download pirated media off the internet. But I'd fight tooth and nail to keep my financial records sealed.... wouldn't everyone else?

Maybe in the age of Amazon Echo Devices people have come to believe their personal information is no longer their own; and are all to willing to disregard their rights.

Maybe this is how the events of Orwell's 1984 begins.




People have a right to know how the business man that is supposed to be successful actually is, if he is a failure I would imagine he's not the best person to run the country.

I don't care how sick you are of the cheques and balances, theyre there for a reason and your feelings aren't one of them.
edit on 23-5-2019 by hopenotfeariswhatweneed because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 03:21 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
I agree with where you are coming from, but didn't his last leaked tax returns show him losing some odd millions of dollars? You have to have at least millions of dollars to post that much as a loss. How many businessmen have been POTUS? I don't think there have been very many, if any, since Lincoln
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posted on May, 23 2019 @ 03:47 AM
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a reply to: thov420

I suspect that when dealing with such sums of money failure is not exactly the same for us plebs, we fail it's bankruptcy and loss of assets, the ruling class however are bailed out and offered something else to fail. We are in a race to the bottom..



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 03:52 AM
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originally posted by: thov420

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Lysergic
What crime are we looking for or is it just for the lulz?


Tax evasion.


Tax evasion as a private citizen? Fine him the max allowed, prison time if deemed appropriate. He was still a private citizen before he was inaugurated and not a public official. What does that have to do with his ability to run the country?


Well, I imagine that if you let the riff raff into positions of power they could do all sorts of things that wouldn't be ultimately good for the country;

- Like shutting down important parts of the government and incurring the massive cost of sorting that out.
- Being totally unable to prevent a belligerent nation from threatening the US with nuclear weapons.
- Like screwing up trade deals and free trade that has been working for decades then causing a trade war that is disadvantaging both US citizens and big business more than other country/countries.
- Paying off hookers with public money.
- Cheating the tax system (making every US citizen pay).
- Allocating money towards PR projects that cannot possibly do what they are said to.
- Implying that everything good was because of them, and that everything bad is because of their opponents.

You know, casino boss, crime boss, criminal sort of stuff.
edit on 23/5/2019 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 03:58 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: chr0naut
Well, I smell something fishy.



Time for a shower ? 😎 and don't forget.........

the final touch that counts

😆


I'm not exactly sure of what you mean?

... or what the hell would that even have to do with Trump's financial records?




posted on May, 23 2019 @ 04:02 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed


I tend to agree with you, most normal people file bankruptcy and lose everything, while rich people file bankruptcy and lose just a percentage of their wealth. Given that, the top percentiles also can afford to hire tax lawyers whose only job is to know/follow IRS rules. If there was incriminating evidence in Trump's taxes/financials I would hope the IRS would have flagged that and followed up on it. If the experts at the IRS didn't find anything actionable, I just don't know what some Congressmembers are hoping to uncover.



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 04:15 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: thov420

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Lysergic
What crime are we looking for or is it just for the lulz?


Tax evasion.


Tax evasion as a private citizen? Fine him the max allowed, prison time if deemed appropriate. He was still a private citizen before he was inaugurated and not a public official. What does that have to do with his ability to run the country?


Well, I imagine that if you let the riff raff into positions of power they could do all sorts of things that wouldn't be ultimately good for the country;


I'd love to be able to keep the riff-raff out of politics, seems they are drawn to positions of power though.



- Like shutting down important parts of the government and incurring the massive cost of sorting that out.

What important parts of government have been shut down? Trump isn't the first president to deal with a government shutdown.


- Being totally unable to prevent a belligerent nation from threatening the US with nuclear weapons.

I'm guessing this is in reference to North Korea, I may be wrong. Trump is at least trying to do something. It probably won't work but none of the previous president's have made any headway there either.


- Like screwing up trade deals and free trade that has been working for decades then causing a trade war that is disadvantaging both US citizens and big business more than other country/countries.

There has been a huge discrepancy between China and US trade for decades. I don't feel like trying to balance that is screwing up trade deals, but that's just a personal opinion.


- Paying off hookers with public money.
- Cheating the tax system (making every US citizen pay).
- Allocating money towards PR projects that cannot possibly do what they are said to.
- Implying that everything good was because of them, and that everything bad is because of their opponents.

You know, casino boss, crime boss, criminal sort of stuff.


I would really like to see your evidence of him paying hookers with public money, considering he's only been taking public money since Jan of 2017 and even then has donated his public salary to the Treasury Dept.

He claims he's been under IRS investigation for years because he is rich, I'd also love to see proof he's been cheating the tax system.
edit on 5/23/19 by thov420 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 04:19 AM
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originally posted by: LDragonFire
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I would rather follow the Constitution with these matters.

No you wouldn't. If you did you would support Trump in this matter.



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 04:20 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

No, they do not have that right.



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 04:35 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

No, they do not have that right.




So do we the people have any rights at all, the fact that you are so willing to follow so blindly shows me your opinion is not really one that matters.

At this point you're a sheep telling all the other sheep to stay in line and Shutup...
edit on 23-5-2019 by hopenotfeariswhatweneed because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 04:38 AM
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Was it an Obama appointed judge?

Trump it literally fighting the enemy who have infiltrated the positions.



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 04:43 AM
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originally posted by: Bloodworth
Was it an Obama appointed judge?

Trump it literally fighting the enemy who have infiltrated the positions.







Oh FFS the enemy was within long before Trump or Obama, by the perpetual state of left/right fanaticism as witnessed on these boards and elsewhere is the reason this Bull# continues ad nauseum, we the people are our own worst enemy.



posted on May, 23 2019 @ 04:47 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Of course we the people have rights, that is literally what our government, the US Constitution, is based on. Trump, being a US citizen
, also has these rights. Congress also has oversight of the executive, in the form of impeachment. They can call for impeachment any time they wish, but they also need evidence for anything to come of it. Let's see some evidence, please! 2 years of the Mueller investigation has come up with nothing.



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