Commons leader Andrea Leadsom has quit the cabinet

As HM Government flounders on the rocks the rats are leaving the sinking ship , this time a high profile rat has jumped overboard in protest over May's "new and improved" deal.

In a letter to the prime minister, she said she did not believe "the UK would be a truly sovereign United Kingdom through the deal that is now proposed".

She also described holding another referendum as "dangerously divisive", and said she was opposed to the government "willingly facilitating such a concession".

Mrs May has offered MPs a chance to hold a vote on another referendum if they back her Withdrawal Agreement Bill - the legislation needed to implement the agreement between the UK and EU on the terms of Brexit.
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I hope more furry friends follow her lead and show May for what she is , a Captain without a ship.

Just Go !

awwww just quit love.....

Jesus, its like watching you're granny slowly die, with each breath you just want her to stop to make the suffering stop because this is getting really sad watching her premiership slowly die.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

It's like death by a thousand cuts in slow motion , how she is still in the job is beyond me.

I suppose if nothing else she'll be remembered for that.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

That's the question though.

Why hasn't she stepped down? What is she waiting for?

Why aren't the other Tories pressuring her to resign?

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

That's the question though.

Why hasn't she stepped down? What is she waiting for?

Why aren't the other Tories pressuring her to resign?

If she goes then it could rip the tories apart I think thats the problem you will either get a hard Brexit PM or a remainer and then that could cause a fraction to split off from the main Torry party. So say you end up with a leader who is soft on Brexit then all of the ERG could walk and it would destroy the party.

Whole thing is a mess.

Remember they did try to remove her before but she won the vote of no confidence and they have months to wait now before they can call for another vote of no confidence.

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Why aren't the other Tories pressuring her to resign?

They are but she won't go , she's safe-ish because her party already had a vote of confidence in her and voted that they did .... stupid Tories.
Under their rules she can't be challenged again until the end of this year but she's already said she will step down before then , an unofficial leadership contest has already started with Boris the favourite.

What strange times.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

The Conservative party predictably lied to us.

How many more years can the British people keep voting these clowns into power?

a reply to: gortex
For the benefit of Americans etc, perhaps we should explain that the function of the "Leader of the House of Commons" is managing the time spent by the House, with special reference to getting government business voted through.
That explains the timing of the resignation. She was being asked to do something which she did not want to do.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

It's like death by a thousand cuts in slow motion , how she is still in the job is beyond me.

I suppose if nothing else she'll be remembered for that.

Sheer lunacy ...... Has she no pride she has destroyed the country's credibility ....

Bringing her same deal with tweeks back for a fourth time

Does she think she's running an asylum?

If she doesn't leave SOON they will have to drag her out kicking and screaming!

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

The Conservative party predictably lied to us.

How many more years can the British people keep voting these clowns into power?

What exactly did the Conservative party lie to you about in this particular example? Theresa May has been in a no win position fairly much from taking office, her withdrawal agreement isn't going to get Parliament approval not because it's 'toxic' or 'bad brexit' (what an absolutely stupid statement as there is nothing in political history to compare it to) but because IMHO I can't see there will ever be a withdrawal agreement that will come anywhere near close to getting approval to proceed.

Blame Parliament if you want, that would be more accurate, blame the clowns that told you this would be easy to achieve if you want, blame the ERG, Corbyn, the Lib Dems, the Greens etc. if you want for not being pragmatic - in fairness, all of those except the Labour party have had a consistent view since the day of the referendum so blaming them is a little futile.

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She sowed the seeds of her own downfall by calling that general election where instead of increasing her majority like she planned she lost it , an error of judgment that has carried through her premiership to the Brexit "negotiations" where she agreed to pretty much everything the EU wanted , she is the Neville Chamberlain of this century.
She was a Poor Home secretary who made for an abysmal PM.

My EU election vote has just been cast , hopefully the result will be so bad for the Tories she will have no other option to resign because most of her cabinet will have left.

They are all to blame but she is at the head of the government so must carry the can for the abject failure of this government for both Brexit and the other social issues like the growing homelessness crisis we are seeing.

The fat lady stopped singing months ago , May must go and go Now.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: uncommitted

She sowed the seeds of her own downfall by calling that general election where instead of increasing her majority like she planned she lost it , an error of judgment that has carried through her premiership to the Brexit "negotiations" where she agreed to pretty much everything the EU wanted , she is the Neville Chamberlain of this century.
She was a Poor Home secretary who made for an abysmal PM.

My EU election vote has just been cast , hopefully the result will be so bad for the Tories she will have no other option to resign because most of her cabinet will have left.

They are all to blame but she is at the head of the government so must carry the can for the abject failure of this government for both Brexit and the other social issues like the growing homelessness crisis we are seeing.

The fat lady stopped singing months ago , May must go and go Now.

When you say she agreed to everything the EU wanted, can you list please? This is like multiple MPs and a failed MP wannabee called Farage keep saying how bad the withdrawal agreement is but never seem to explain why.

I think calling the election when the tories did was a mistake, but not sure that was a purely personal decision, and I believe at the time it was to allow there to be one government in place to see the whole thing through to its conclusion. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

I think what is deluded though (and this isn't aimed at you) is thinking that when she goes the EU will be happy to start again from scratch, To think that is the case is pure arrogance on behalf of those that will - and we know they will - make the claim.

a reply to: uncommitted

When you say she agreed to everything the EU wanted, can you list please?

The obligation to pay the EU £39 billion for the privilege of leaving and continued rights to fish in our waters are two , there are more but those are serious enough to be against her deal , the reports that she's added a parliamentary vote on another referendum add more reason to be against it , it was written by the EU with the intention to cause the division it has and stop us from leaving which it probably will.

I think what is deluded is thinking there's any chance of leaving the EU with an amicable deal , the only real Brexit appears to be a No deal Brexit.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: uncommitted

When you say she agreed to everything the EU wanted, can you list please?

The obligation to pay the EU £39 billion for the privilege of leaving and continued rights to fish in our waters are two , there are more but those are serious enough to be against her deal , the reports that she's added a parliamentary vote on another referendum add more reason to be against it , it was written by the EU with the intention to cause the division it has and stop us from leaving which it probably will.

I think what is deluded is thinking there's any chance of leaving the EU with an amicable deal , the only real Brexit appears to be a No deal Brexit.

The obligation to pay is contractual, to pretend otherwise is just being blind and obnoxious. The right to fish in our water was exaggerated and if people actually looked would see there is a balance there with a quid pro quo agreement, but you won't hear people like Farage mention that.

The parliamentary vote clause was only added to the bill that looks like it will never be read and was a last ditch attempt to get some kind of deal through Parliament before we leave without a deal. No deal brexit wasn't what the simpering sh!ts promised, but the gullible believed them. The hard right anti EU brigade would rather we suffered the pain of it as they themselves are well insulated against the financial hardships it will bring.

originally posted by: uncommitted

The obligation to pay is contractual, to pretend otherwise is just being blind and obnoxious. The right to fish in our water was exaggerated and if people actually looked would see there is a balance there with a quid pro quo agreement, but you won't hear people like Farage mention that.

You don't need to ask Farrage or anyone else, Just ask the fishermen

in all the dead fishing ports in the UK.

originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: uncommitted

The obligation to pay is contractual, to pretend otherwise is just being blind and obnoxious. The right to fish in our water was exaggerated and if people actually looked would see there is a balance there with a quid pro quo agreement, but you won't hear people like Farage mention that.

You don't need to ask Farrage or anyone else, Just ask the fishermen

in all the dead fishing ports in the UK.

Really? And you think that isn't down to over fishing by us as well as other countries that has led to massive reduction in stock?