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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: rickymouse
Certainly. But once again you point out how it is man who misuses science to the detriment of our species and once again I ask you is it that far of a leap to think that human misuse of scientific and technology has polluted our environment to such a degree that it has not only effected our atmosphere, our oceans our crops but the climate as well?
originally posted by: Pilgrum
a reply to: Guyfriday
The crater is unlined and it's been filled with contaminated material with a concrete lid placed over the top. The trouble is that the bottom of the pit is, and always was, below sea level so the radioactive waste can leach out into the ocean even if the lid remained intact.
Cracks are probably not making a bad situation much worse than it is already.
originally posted by: rickymouse
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: rickymouse
Indeed. Our scientific development and lack of concern for it's negative impact on the environment has and is doing severe damage to the planet. Do you think it possible that that science has had an impact to the degree of changing climate as well?
For me it is not unreasonable to consider that the extent to which mans scientific advances (?) have reached this point.
You?
Science created the power plants, science created street lights which burn all night long taking juice. Science created big machinery that big industry uses, it also created all the bad chemicals dumped into our oceans. Science created a way for more people to overpopulate the world, but it is our wants, not our needs, that is the problem. Science created chainsaws and cars. It created plastic and it's use made Oil wells possible. It created cheap air travel.
originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
originally posted by: rickymouse
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: rickymouse
Indeed. Our scientific development and lack of concern for it's negative impact on the environment has and is doing severe damage to the planet. Do you think it possible that that science has had an impact to the degree of changing climate as well?
For me it is not unreasonable to consider that the extent to which mans scientific advances (?) have reached this point.
You?
Science created the power plants, science created street lights which burn all night long taking juice. Science created big machinery that big industry uses, it also created all the bad chemicals dumped into our oceans. Science created a way for more people to overpopulate the world, but it is our wants, not our needs, that is the problem. Science created chainsaws and cars. It created plastic and it's use made Oil wells possible. It created cheap air travel.
I would argue that it is Engineers who created most of those things. Scientists may have discovered things but Engineers put those discoveries to use.
Thank you for posting this. It is very important and not getting enough attention for a number of reasons in the air, print or virtual media.
It's particularly disturbing to me that in order for the islanders to achieve independence from the US they had to agree to taking over responsibility for this clearly US mess. They do not have the resources to cope with this unfolding tragedy - just another day in nuke land.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: LtFluffyCakes96
A 2013 report by the Energy Department admitted that radioactive material may have already begun to leak from the dome, but it said the health risks were "probably low".
it will "probably" not be an issue at all. Much like Fukashima. The Ocean is a big place, just think parts per million. See, don't you feel better now? A little pollution isn't really a big deal....is is?
It’s not clear how this huge problem, literally in the middle of nowhere, gets fixed.
The dome is now under the jurisdiction of the government of the Marshall Islands, and a 1979 agreement between the two governments states that the U.S. is not responsible for any problems that might arise from past nuclear experiments.
However, the Marshall Islands is a small and poor state and doesn’t have the resources to move the dome’s contents to a new, permanent home.