America - You are the biggest threat to world peace

originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: madmac5150
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

(Some see a double post... I see an opportunity)

6. China

7. Stargate Command

8. K Pop

9. Russia

10. Vatican City

Also receiving votes: Wal-Mart, Cuba, British Petroleum, Dr. Evil, and Duke University

I a bit disappointed that Scientology didn't make your list. Sure, it's a rather small cult, but they are some hard core nutbags.

They dropped out of the rankings, when their ENTIRE navy got quarantined for measles.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

I find it funny you assume that there is world peace.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Yeah Yeah Yeah,

Let's see how "peaceful" the world would be if we picked up our toys and went home.

They aren't toys. They are weapons.

If you ceased using those weapons, then the world would be just that much more peaceful.

If you removed all American influence from the sovereign countries where you intervene, you wouldn't be there for the reactionaries to react against.

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: infolurker

I think if we just went total isolationist for about 20 years or so there would be some prime real estate open for grabs after.

I vote for a nice Disney-themed memorial park where England once was.

Perhaps. It is highly likely that any empires, as the may exist now, would be gone. In a technological world, communications technology breaks down boundaries and differences, leading to greater interrelationships.

In such a world, isolationism is likely to be the fastest way to ideological irrelevance, trade restriction and loss of political power.

Take a look at the trade wars just beginning and their coincidence with isolationism.

a reply to: chr0naut

Like weapons are the cause of violence.
Thousands of years of human violence has taught us a thing or two.
Be it a rock or a laser guided missile, mankind is a brutal beast.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: chr0naut

Like weapons are the cause of violence.
Thousands of years of human violence has taught us a thing or two.
Be it a rock or a laser guided missile, mankind is a brutal beast.

But, not in his utopia world! That is where unicorns run free and there is no violence toward anything and nobody dies.

Granted, the eventual overpopulation and lack of food will put pressure on someone to take food from another by force. Or, one religious faction decides that the other religious faction doesn't worship the TRUE God, so they must be converted, forcibly if needed, for their own good.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: infolurker

I think if we just went total isolationist for about 20 years or so there would be some prime real estate open for grabs after.

I vote for a nice Disney-themed memorial park where England once was.

Perhaps. It is highly likely that any empires, as the may exist now, would be gone. In a technological world, communications technology breaks down boundaries and differences, leading to greater interrelationships.

In such a world, isolationism is likely to be the fastest way to ideological irrelevance, trade restriction and loss of political power.

Take a look at the trade wars just beginning and their coincidence with isolationism.

You are aware how VERY fragile this "technological world" really is, right? It would break down almost immediately if not due to lack of upkeep then due to intentional disconnection by TPTB that do not WANT you to intercommunicate. Because when you control the means of communication, you control the minds of those under which you rule.

Yeah, sounds like you haven't really thought this through completely, or, you simply do not think at all about real human nature. When resources are scarce, someone WILL take what you have, and dance on your neck while doing it.

a reply to: Lumenari

150 wars in the last century.

en.wikipedia.org...

Jeffersonian leaders preferred a small army and navy, fearing that a large military establishment would involve the United States in excessive foreign wars, and potentially allow a domestic tyrant to seize power

The MIC won a long time ago.

India/Pakistan would be a nuclear wasteland, China would devour Russia after it overextended and took Europe out, the Middle East would stop fighting when they ran out of people and Africa would revert rather quickly to what it was 500 years ago.

You have to prove that the big military stick of the US prevents regional historical hostilities from flaring up.

I can on the other hand show many examples of the CIA/US instigating regime change favorable to US economic interests.

a reply to: Bluntone22

So, let me get this right. They chose to leave Europe for religious freedom and freedom from tyranny only to impose their own tyranny on their own people and the rest of the world?

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: chr0naut

Like weapons are the cause of violence.
Thousands of years of human violence has taught us a thing or two.
Be it a rock or a laser guided missile, mankind is a brutal beast.

Like weapons have ANY other purpose.

a reply to: Raggedyman

And like clockwork you wade in over your head with name calling as a rebuttal.

The playground is outside your basement - you're sorely missed.

a reply to: chr0naut

You say that, but every evidence indicates that the more technologically advanced we become we actually communicate less. We may have the ability to and we talk at people more than ever, but that's not communication. When your speaking to avatars it doesnt really lend itself to understanding a person and understanding is the basis of communication.

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: infolurker

I think if we just went total isolationist for about 20 years or so there would be some prime real estate open for grabs after.

I vote for a nice Disney-themed memorial park where England once was.

Perhaps. It is highly likely that any empires, as the may exist now, would be gone. In a technological world, communications technology breaks down boundaries and differences, leading to greater interrelationships.

In such a world, isolationism is likely to be the fastest way to ideological irrelevance, trade restriction and loss of political power.

Take a look at the trade wars just beginning and their coincidence with isolationism.

You are aware how VERY fragile this "technological world" really is, right? It would break down almost immediately if not due to lack of upkeep then due to intentional disconnection by TPTB that do not WANT you to intercommunicate. Because when you control the means of communication, you control the minds of those under which you rule.

Yeah, sounds like you haven't really thought this through completely, or, you simply do not think at all about real human nature. When resources are scarce, someone WILL take what you have, and dance on your neck while doing it.

You can't un-know things.

When millions of people, spread across the globe know how their bits of communications tech works, you aren't just going to make it go away. While ever there's a buck in it, someone will make it happen.

Look at how successful the record companies were in stopping file sharing.

a reply to: Justoneman

Saddam was installed with CIA help.

Now lets start talking about the Globalists plan for Iran to be brought into the fold using the US as a tool.

Profits for US corporations and yet we have cries of "let the uninsured fend for themselves. We ain't no commies, we dont want safety nets for our most vulnerable"

Heavens, where have all those trillions disappeared to?

Only pride prevents you from seeing how you're being used as cannon fodder.

originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: chr0naut

You say that, but every evidence indicates that the more technologically advanced we become we actually communicate less. We may have the ability to and we talk at people more than ever, but that's not communication. When your speaking to avatars it doesnt really lend itself to understanding a person and understanding is the basis of communication.

Yes, but this is only the beginning. Real-time translation and ubiquitous communications with video are already everywhere.

The propagandist media is already being swamped with real-time videos of events from a thousand viewpoints.

It is literally a new world and is developing at a rate so fast that even the most reactionary of cashed-up government agencies can no longer keep pace with.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: chr0naut

Like weapons are the cause of violence.
Thousands of years of human violence has taught us a thing or two.
Be it a rock or a laser guided missile, mankind is a brutal beast.

Like weapons have ANY other purpose.

Will you answer this to yourself or just pretend it isn't so?

How many of those guns pull it's own trigger? Will your 12 Gauge Shotgun hop up and shoot someone for you?

Do those planes with bombs take off without any help and fly themselves?

So those suicide bombers just spontaneously combust or do they build something to kill others with our without aid from the Mullah?

Or do people wanting to kill , kill with anything they can?

a reply to: chr0naut

No they just control the market and eventually weed out the intended purpose of the product by selling cheaper less effective products that we gobble up trying keep up with each other. When you cant out right control something you flood the market to cover it, this is done to both products and information all the time. We are flooded with bad options to a point that we can't perform our due diligence and live our life, this is done so we ask daddy to step in and save us from ourselves and it works beautifully.

a reply to: chr0naut

We get all this information but there is rarely an outright truth to be found because it is also a product being sold to you.

a reply to: DBCowboy

You don't have to apologize for the MIC - business as usual. These threads invariably are attacked/defended by vets.

Whats funny is that you can't seem to grasp the difference between respecting the fallen and supporting regime change for corporate profits.

I would like to apologize for America starting all the wars in the world

Were you instrumental like Cheney in swaying the joint chiefs of Staff to advise the Commander in Chief to get th eball rolling?

Which America do you represent?

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

I find it funny that history eludes you

en.wikipedia.org...