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Colonia Dignidad : Germany to compensate victims of pure evil nazi paedophiles

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posted on May, 18 2019 @ 08:01 PM
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The decision to pay the victims was made by a government commission in Berlin on Friday.bbc link Germany to compensate victims of Chilean commune

Did you ever doubt that men were capable of the purest evil ? That , as a collaborative group infesting multiple positions of political power , they could rape torture imprison and murder children and anyone they felt like molesting in similar ways ? That they could get away with these things across international borders all the way to West for decades . They they could just throw their murder victims from helicopters into the ocean at will ?
That they could get away with all this again and again and again , and still continue to do so ? Even in Britain and Germany ? America too ?

Well , if not , start believing it , because here's your definite proof . Read this story , and you will have seen the darkest secrets the world has : plumbing the depths of this depravity , we ourselves were shocked . There is a floor , a rock bottom of how bad things can be , and these things happened there .

Current news as of 18 hours ago :



Germany will pay compensation of up to €10,000 (£8,700; $11,000) to victims of a notorious and abusive commune in southern Chile.
Colonia Dignidad was founded by former Nazi soldier Paul Schäfer in 1961.





The commune, which was located 350km (220 miles) south of Santiago, was run as a secretive cult . Hundreds of German and Chilean survivors will now be eligible for compensation. The decision to pay the victims was made by a government commission in Berlin on Friday. A fund of €3.5m will be set aside to do so.




In its report, released on Friday, the German commission said Schäfer "tore families apart, abused countless children and actively collaborated with Pinochet dictatorship henchmen on torture, murder and disappearances. The compensation would be paid "exclusively out of moral responsibility and without recognition of a legal obligation," it added.



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Colonia Dignidad was a colony set up by Schäfer in 1961 (until today) in the remote Maule area. He ran it as a secretive cult with victims living as virtual slaves and prevented from leaving by armed guards with dogs.




Hundreds of German and Chilean survivors will now be eligible for compensation. The decision to pay the victims was made by a government commission in Berlin on Friday. A fund of €3.5m will be set aside to do so.


And / But :



It comes a week after prosecutors dropped their investigation into a German doctor who worked at the commune. A court in Chile had found Hartmut Hopp guilty of complicity in child sex abuse committed by Schäfer, but he fled to Germany before he could be jailed. German prosecutors said there was insufficient evidence to uphold the ruling.


They 're letting Doctor Hopp go free in Germany : from this bbc article 8th may 2019 :

www.bbc.com...

Hopp, who is 74, ran the clinic within Colinia Dignidad. Hopp, who had moved to Chile with Schäfer in 1961, was one of the very few members of the colony who was allowed to leave the compound to go abroad and study. In the 1980s he became the right-hand man of Paul Schäfer, acting as a spokesman for the colony.

He was convicted by a Chilean court of complicity in the rapes and sexual abuse committed by Schäfer. He fled Chile for Germany before the sentencing. A German court upheld the Chilean ruling in 2017 and sentenced Hopp to five years in prison but the ruling was overturned by a higher court in September 2018.

The court said at the time that it had found no concrete evidence that Hopp had actively aided and abetted the abuses committed by Schäfer. However an investigation by German prosecutors continued. That investigation has now been dropped with prosecutors saying that "after exhausting all promising investigative leads, it was not possible to substantiate a sufficient suspicion under any legal aspect necessary for an indictment".


And remember that compensation money - Germany will pay compensation of up to €10,000 (£8,700; $11,000) to victims of a notorious and abusive commune in southern Chile.

How far is 15 000 dollars each going to go ? And what about this part - The compensation would be paid "exclusively out of moral responsibility and without recognition of a legal obligation,"

So the question really is , why does Germany feel moral responsibility over this ? To avoid perhaps it's legal obligations ? And what would they be ? And why ? What must have , must be , going on , for this article to avoid answering that obvious question ? Why on earth is there no upheld conviction against Doctor Hopp ?

Turning back to the known knowns , what about General Augustus Pinochet the dictator of Chile 30 murderous years ? This is where the story starts to become stark , spine chilling real life horror , how far this all goes . And how very dangerous indeed that all these complicit people and their authoritarian organisations really are .
en.wikipedia.org...

Pinochet assumed power in Chile following a United States-backed coup d'état on 11 September 1973 that overthrew the democratically elected socialist Unidad Popular government of President Salvador Allende and ended civilian rule. Several academics – including Peter Winn, Peter Kornbluh and Tim Weiner – have stated that the support of the United States was crucial to the coup and the consolidation of power afterward



Pinochet and his government have been characterised as fascist.[94] For example, journalist and author Samuel Chavkin,[95] in his book Storm Over Chile: The Junta Under Siege, repeatedly characterizes both Pinochet himself and the military dictatorship as fascist.[96] However, he and his government are generally excluded from academic typologies of fascism.[97][98][99][100] Roger Griffin included Pinochet in a group of pseudo-populist despots distinct from fascism, which included the likes of Saddam Hussein




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posted on May, 18 2019 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: DoctorBluechip

I bet most of members here never heard about Colonia Dignidad. Sadly.



posted on May, 18 2019 @ 08:12 PM
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That colony must have had some high ranking German Officials frequenting it pretty often to offer to pay these people off with their taxpayers money.



posted on May, 18 2019 @ 08:32 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
That colony must have had some high ranking German Officials frequenting it pretty often to offer to pay these people off with their taxpayers money.


Probably, also likely that some of the families still in power in germany had relatives that frequented it and or participated in it.

But, they are paying out a few bucks. So it's all better now.
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posted on May, 18 2019 @ 08:40 PM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: rickymouse
That colony must have had some high ranking German Officials frequenting it pretty often to offer to pay these people off with their taxpayers money.


Probably, also likely that some of the families still in power in germany had relatives that frequented it and or participated in it.

But, they are paying out a few bucks. So it's all better now.
Those predominant families in Germany are not paying anything, the German citizens are. That is just the way it works. It has been that way as far back as I can remember in my lifetime, I remember all the corruption going on in the sixties.



posted on May, 18 2019 @ 09:00 PM
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Going back to where Pinochet and Schafer conspired to kill their opponents and together commited these many many heinous acts , at this death camp that Villa Bavaria



Colonia Dignidad changed its name to Villa Baviera in 1991 and has become a tourist resort with a German-themed restaurant and hotel. More than 100 people, many of them former members of Colonia Dignidad live at the site with many saying it is the only home they have ever known.


What we ought to find out is why Germany owes anything in particular to anyone over this matter , and why they're overturning te Chilean court , and their own previous conviction of Doctor Hopp , using a higher court ? Also , Why did the CIA do nothing except continue when they knew what was going on all those years ? How is it that Pinochet was released back to Argentina after arrest in the UK on medical grounds ? Why did he keep visiting Margaret Thatcher ? wouldnt she have known exactly what was going on in chile and Argentina too ? Of course she would . You've only got one answer to boil down to and its obvious what that is , that fascist torturing rapist slave mastering paedophile murderers have been and are still infesting critical positions of political power internationally and generally escaping justice across the world . That said , they're always going to be caught up with , for example we heard about Jon of God the Brazilian cultist and serial molesting murderer and his personal links with Oprah and Harvard psychiatrists only last week . There'll be more to it all yet , further threads for others to bring . These are some of the worst things that can ever happen , but when the worms come out of the woodwork ...



posted on May, 18 2019 @ 11:38 PM
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a reply to: DoctorBluechip

The US should top up the German compensation fund. They did after all help Pinochet.

en.wikipedia.org...(1973–1990)



posted on May, 18 2019 @ 11:41 PM
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Does this story relate to Freemasonry?

No one gets out of here alive.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 12:47 AM
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a reply to: DoctorBluechip

According to facts on the ground, it was not only Schäfer but also Bormann who run the place.
The moral reason would not emerge for some figure such as Schäfer only. He was a petty SS soldier, sergeant. The moral reason is due to Borman, and him being top the second in command in NS Germany under AH. And in particular, he was the Provider of the funds to build up the Colonia Dignidad in the first place.
Reason for State of Germany to dole up money for NS crimes ... is the ethical and moral one concerning actual high ranking NS party members representing actual state of Germany (at the time) and them providing base fund for operations In South America.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 12:51 AM
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lol, heres a few bucks kid.

everyone thinks they wanna punch a nazi, yet nobody wanna go to where they be.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 12:00 PM
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So the question really is , why does Germany feel moral responsibility over this ?

It is a weird case. The colony was not German territory. And compensating for the misdeeds of a citizen abroad does not make much sense. My guess is that the actions, or inactions of German embassy in Chile could be the reason that they feel a "moral" obligation. There are claims that they were aware of what was going on, but ignored it, as not to upset the relations to the Pinochet regime.


Why on earth is there no upheld conviction against Doctor Hopp ?

Because there is not enough evidence to convict him.







 
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