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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JAGStorm
Only if the fetus gets a Social Security number.
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Sookiechacha
This is the great legal mind he is taking about.
www.thoughtco.com...
Hey what do ya know. I figured out how to copy and paste links on my cell phone!!!
Seems a lot of his ideas are no longer present in our legal system.
By marriage, the husband and wife are one person in law: that is, the very being or legal existence of the woman is suspended during the marriage, or at least is incorporated and consolidated into that of the husband; under whose wing, protection, and cover, she performs every thing
originally posted by: olaru12
I wonder if now a pregnant woman drinking and smoking cigarettes will be criminalized because it harms the fetus,
or if speeding in a automobile can be deemed child endangerment?
originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: olaru12
I wonder if now a pregnant woman drinking and smoking cigarettes will be criminalized because it harms the fetus,
or if speeding in a automobile can be deemed child endangerment?
And the reverse of that, if a pregnant woman does something crazy and illegal, can she blame it on the fetus and the hormonal changes it creates so that the fetus will be liable when it is born? Will it have to do time in baby prison?
originally posted by: olaru12
I wonder if now a pregnant woman drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes will be criminalized because it harms the fetus,
or if speeding in a automobile can be deemed child endangerment?
According to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA), data collected in 2016 indicates that the following states have legal provisions that may define alcohol use by a pregnant woman as a form of child abuse:
Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana,
Kentucky, Massachusetts, Maine, North Dakota, Nevada, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina,
South Dakota, Texas, Utah. Virginia, Wisconsin.
In these states, women who have used alcohol while pregnant may face legal charges of child abuse, depending on the circumstances surrounding the case, so there is most likely some legal justification for individuals who refuse to serve pregnant women alcohol in these states. The range of penalties, including fines and jail time, will vary from case to case and state to state.
Since 1973, authorities in at least 45 states have sought to prosecute women for exposing their unborn children to drugs. Those efforts continue under a wide variety of laws even in states where high courts have previously rejected the prosecution approach.
Eighteen states have laws that say drug use during pregnancy is child abuse.
originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: olaru12
I wonder if now a pregnant woman drinking and smoking cigarettes will be criminalized because it harms the fetus,
or if speeding in a automobile can be deemed child endangerment?
And the reverse of that, if a pregnant woman does something crazy and illegal, can she blame it on the fetus and the hormonal changes it creates so that the fetus will be liable when it is born? Will it have to do time in baby prison?
originally posted by: olaru12
Big ole legal can o worms just tipped over. The lawyers are doing a happy dance In Alabama, Georgia, Missouri and now Louisiana.
If a fertilized egg is now a person, they are afforded inalienable rights under the law.
I wonder if now a pregnant woman drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes will be criminalized because it harms the fetus,
or if speeding in a automobile can be deemed child endangerment?
originally posted by: olaru12
Then will the STATE assume responsibility for the child's welfare?
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: JAGStorm
Exactly. As I brought up in another thread, this means that any child conceived on US soil is a US citizen.
Does that mean that any illegal immigrant that conceives on US soil can't be deported since it would also require reporting a legal US citizen?
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: olaru12
I have no idea on the first question...
As to the second question, we should resume government orphanages and, taking it further, we should also go back to having indigent poor farms and work farms to address the current opiod and homelessness epidemic sweeping the country. It seems vagrancy was less of a major problem and abortion less common when those facilities were in use in this nation.
The tax analogy is a terrible one. Being able to claim someone on your taxes is based upon dependency and an age range...not person-hood alone. Otherwise, all of those thirty and forty somethings living in their parent's basement might confer an actual benefit to the parents. Nice try.
It seems vagrancy was less of a major problem and abortion less common when those facilities were in use in this nation.