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Australia About to elect a left wing government

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posted on May, 18 2019 @ 07:55 PM
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It sounds to me like if you run on a platform that promises to put a significant number of your voters out of work because you're threatening to end their livelihoods, you're going to have some issues with that.

As American journos have discovered, learn to code is not a good reply when they ask what they're supposed to do when you end their careers.




posted on May, 19 2019 @ 12:22 AM
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So glad labor didnt get in. Would have been a disaster for the elderley, also a disaster for the economy due to their stupid greenhouse gas cuts platform. Also, the government would have been stealing everyones superannuation saving as anyone who owns shares would have had an extra tax on the franking credits which the company has already been taxed on. Its double dipping and its why the elderly would have been $8600 worse off under labor.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 02:13 AM
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oh well i'm glad it's gonna be good for ThE eCoNoMy, shame that coal mine necessitates the destruction of the largest reef & most precious ecosystem in the world, will contribute to more and more toxic emission [regardless of whether you believe in climate change or you're an ignorant fool sucking coal smoke is good for no one], and, oh what was that? they're not even going to be providing jobs? adani have been open from the start about intending to use as much automation as possible?

well i'm glad the billionaire mine owners and their paid off lackey in kirribilli are happy at least.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 02:16 AM
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If the media are upset, which they are, and d-list celebrities are tweeting their hate for the Australian majority, which they are, then you know you’ve voted well.

Another dodged bullet for western civilisation



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 03:58 AM
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All this election has proven is that knifing leaders is a viable solution.

Don't expect any sympathy from me when it happens again. Whoever voted LNP have vindicated their knifing of Turnbull - and anyone who thinks that the new "rules" in place will prevent that happening again is delusional. They simply made it "slightly harder".

Well done LNP/One Nation/UAP voters on helping to ruin our democracy. Hope you're proud.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 04:02 AM
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originally posted by: Flatcoat

North Queenslander here. Most of the people I know work in the coal industry....so what do you think would happen when you start messing with a blokes livelihood? Oh, and you can fix stupid...just move a 1000 clicks to the north. And BTW I didn't vote as I don't live in Aus...and I detest both parties equally.


Coal has to go eventually. All they are doing is delaying it. Every other industry in history that was superceded by a more advanced or different industry has adapted. Apparently some people don't want to adapt and the rest of us have to suffer for it.

Not good enough.






posted on May, 19 2019 @ 04:06 AM
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originally posted by: Kryties
All this election has proven is that knifing leaders is a viable solution.

Don't expect any sympathy from me when it happens again. Whoever voted LNP have vindicated their knifing of Turnbull - and anyone who thinks that the new "rules" in place will prevent that happening again is delusional. They simply made it "slightly harder".

Well done LNP/One Nation/UAP voters on helping to ruin our democracy. Hope you're proud.


This election was rorted by a mining magnate. I do not accept the legitimacy of the result and will straight up not accept this governments authority. 4% swing towards liberal in Queensland, 1.5-2% swing toward labor in the other states. Dodgy. I will now be taking open activism against this government.
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posted on May, 19 2019 @ 04:16 AM
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originally posted by: harold223

originally posted by: Kryties
All this election has proven is that knifing leaders is a viable solution.

Don't expect any sympathy from me when it happens again. Whoever voted LNP have vindicated their knifing of Turnbull - and anyone who thinks that the new "rules" in place will prevent that happening again is delusional. They simply made it "slightly harder".

Well done LNP/One Nation/UAP voters on helping to ruin our democracy. Hope you're proud.


This election was rorted by a mining magnate. I do not accept the legitimacy of the result and will straight up not accept this governments authority. 4% swing towards liberal in Queensland, 1.5-2% swing toward labor in the other states. Dodgy. I will now be taking open activism against this government.


Agreed.

I have never been so angry about an election in my life. It doesn't surprise me in the least that we have LNP voters on here "rubbing it in" and completely ignoring the very concerning issues that occurred - that's the type of people they are. Ignorant, selfish fools.

This election has emboldened me to get involved in politics - except I think the era of trying to be nice in the face of nastiness is over. I will fight fire with an incinerator. There's no point trying to fight a fair fight when the other side plays dirty then pretends innocence. So we won't. It's time to get dirty.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 04:33 AM
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Yep, I am not normally that politically involved. Never really get angry, always thought it was a choice of apple vs orange, but this election there was a chance for something real and Queenslanders *^^%^ed it. I too have never been angrier about a result. Clive Palmer spent between $60-80 million on the campaign and won no seats but put all his preference to liberal in all the right seats. That $60-80 million was more than both parties combined. Guys, when a mining magnate is getting involved in politics, don't you stop and think.... WTF is going on here? Rorted.

I have never been that radical but I am now joining Socialist Alliance





Socialist Alliance

The right-wing dominated Coalition's win in the May 18 federal election is a major setback for the climate action movement, the union movement and the interests of working people in Australia.

It will no doubt lead to an acceleration of attacks on union rights, the living standards of workers and the poor and is a serious blow to the growing climate action movement among youth and the population generally.

We must now urgently take steps to unite and step up the fight to defend the movements for progressive change in this country.

Despite this electoral setback, which occurred in the face of opinion polls showing a large majority of the Australian people want real action to tackle climate change, we have the potential to build a mass movement that can force the government to retreat on its determination to expand the fossil fuel industry — starting with the Adani coalmine in Queensland's Galilee Basin.

All in all, this election result is a serious short-term blow to the cause of progressive change in Australia. The labour movement, the climate action campaign and the left need to launch a major discussion about the way forward from here, based on a strategy of united action to defend our rights, our living standards and our climate future under escalated attack. This is an urgent task for the entire progressive movement.



socialist-alliance.org...

I will be taking action and fighting alongside Socialist Alliance from now on. I will spread this word to anyone who listens.
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posted on May, 19 2019 @ 04:37 AM
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originally posted by: caterpillage
Hopefully at least as you fall into miserable tyranny it will wake up the fence sitters in the US.


I don't get this outlook, I would equate an impending right wing government with miserable tyranny, a left wing government would be the opposite of tyranny...



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 04:40 AM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: Flatcoat

North Queenslander here. Most of the people I know work in the coal industry....so what do you think would happen when you start messing with a blokes livelihood? Oh, and you can fix stupid...just move a 1000 clicks to the north. And BTW I didn't vote as I don't live in Aus...and I detest both parties equally.


Coal has to go eventually. All they are doing is delaying it. Every other industry in history that was superceded by a more advanced or different industry has adapted. Apparently some people don't want to adapt and the rest of us have to suffer for it.

Not good enough.





While what you say about changing industries might be true, you can't just put 10's of thousands of people out of work overnight. And that's just people directly involved in coal mining. There are a lot of other industries in my region that depend upon work generated by the mines. My father owned a sandblasting and coating business, and at least 95% of the work we did was for the mines. Then you have machinery sales, WHS and clothing suppliers, caterers and a myriad of other businesses. This current philosophy of sudden, massive changes to (X) is not viable. "Learn to code" is not an acceptable solution. It could be done, but it would have to be done in very tiny increments.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 04:45 AM
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originally posted by: Flatcoat

This current philosophy of sudden, massive changes to (X) is not viable. "Learn to code" is not an acceptable solution. It could be done, but it would have to be done in very tiny increments.


I would agree with the "incremental" solution if I believed that those affected actually wanted it and took it seriously. All I am seeing though is "We don't want to lose our coal mining jobs fullstop" with absolutely no give. These people are not interested in adapting, no matter how easy we make it for them. They simply do not want to change, and the rest of us have to suffer for it. This is unacceptable.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 04:51 AM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: Flatcoat

This current philosophy of sudden, massive changes to (X) is not viable. "Learn to code" is not an acceptable solution. It could be done, but it would have to be done in very tiny increments.


I would agree with the "incremental" solution if I believed that those affected actually wanted it and took it seriously. All I am seeing though is "We don't want to lose our coal mining jobs fullstop" with absolutely no give. These people are not interested in adapting, no matter how easy we make it for them. They simply do not want to change, and the rest of us have to suffer for it. This is unacceptable.


Maybe, but to the average worker their most pressing concern is how the f**k they're going to pay that massive electricity bill sitting in their mailbox.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 04:53 AM
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originally posted by: Flatcoat

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: Flatcoat

This current philosophy of sudden, massive changes to (X) is not viable. "Learn to code" is not an acceptable solution. It could be done, but it would have to be done in very tiny increments.


I would agree with the "incremental" solution if I believed that those affected actually wanted it and took it seriously. All I am seeing though is "We don't want to lose our coal mining jobs fullstop" with absolutely no give. These people are not interested in adapting, no matter how easy we make it for them. They simply do not want to change, and the rest of us have to suffer for it. This is unacceptable.


Maybe, but to the average worker their most pressing concern is how the f**k they're going to pay that massive electricity bill sitting in their mailbox.


Im not a coal miner and that is my worry too. The difference between myself and the coal miners is they are stuck in the past and refuse to believe science. Renewables are a cheaper and more viable alternative - this has been conclusively proven and yet these people completely ignore this. Why? Because they don't want to adapt.

Still not good enough.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 05:24 AM
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Im not a coal miner and that is my worry too.


Well, maybe you would have a different perspective if you were a coal miner?



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 05:30 AM
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originally posted by: Flatcoat
a reply to: Kryties




Im not a coal miner and that is my worry too.


Well, maybe you would have a different perspective if you were a coal miner?


I wouldn't be so damn selfish and ignorant, no.

I would listen to the science, I would know that it cannot last and that it is affecting the whole world - I most certainly wouldn't cling on for dear life at the expense of EVERYBODY ELSE just so I can keep my already superceded job.

If I were a coal miner I would have already found work elsewhere, having forseen the future and listened to the people who are more knowledgeable than myself on the subject.

They are going to lose their jobs - one way or another. The only question is when and how difficult they are going to make it for themselves.
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posted on May, 19 2019 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: Kryties

That's all well and good, but if you promise to end a person's livelihood with no real solutions for the people you are destroying in the process, and I'm not just talking about the miners, but everyone who depends on that segment of the economy, then you are asking for electoral trouble.



posted on May, 19 2019 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: Kryties

How about this?

Quit your job and move somewhere where your particular area of expertise has no prospects and then try to start over.

That's what you're asking them to do. Most green solutions offer no answers for them because they and what they do are viewed with nothing but contempt at best and viewed as evil at worst. You can see the attitude dripping through your posts. You aren't interested in helping them at all even though you're very interested in destroying their lives. As far as you seem to be concerned they get what's coming to them because they're destroying the planet, and this seems to be a just punishment for that.

You seem to not consider that many of them started down this path before climate anything as even a thing.
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posted on May, 19 2019 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Who says they haven't been offered alternatives? NOBODY is saying they should be given the boot without alternatives, not even myself. What I ACTUALLY said was that the miners and other workers aren't interested in alternatives, they just simply want to keep doing what they are doing - no questions asked. It's the miners/workers themselves making this more difficult.

I would appreciate it if you would stop attempting to put words into my mouth that I neither said nor implied. That's poor form.




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posted on May, 19 2019 @ 08:42 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Kryties

That's all well and good, but if you promise to end a person's livelihood with no real solutions for the people you are destroying in the process, and I'm not just talking about the miners, but everyone who depends on that segment of the economy, then you are asking for electoral trouble.


Adani - the company opening the mine - have been open about the fact that they intend to use as little human labour as possible. they're going to be bringing like 20 jobs to the area.
along with the quite literal devastation of the Great Barrier Reef, which even Americans should recognise as one of the most beautiful and important ecosystems on the planet.
they're planning to literally dredge entire chunks of reef out to make a deep water port for this mine that will be bringing minimal jobs to the country.
the entire "benefit" here is to the politicians who are getting a nice fat paycheck from a mining magnate, in return for selling the populace a load of fearmongering bs. and oh what a surprise, just as we saw in the US, just as we saw in the UK, appealing to that sense of fear is a great motivator.
sickening.




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