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originally posted by: underwerks
originally posted by: SailorJerry
a reply to: underwerks
The only narrative here is you saying that a woman doesn't own her body once she becomes pregnant.
No im saying she doesnt own the body inside of her.
I cant imagine being so dense you cant understand that, must make life really hard
I find it disgusting that you would let politics twist you around to the point you support something like that.
I find it absolutely disgusting that youre so far left that you think a baby isnt its own person, and that another person has the right to kill it.
Thats on your karma not mine
Let's do a little thought experiment:
If you're hooked up to me and I'm providing life support to you, do I have the right to unhook myself and walk away?
Do you believe the government has the right to force me to stay under threat of violence?
originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: InTheLight
What Alabama and Georgia have done is mobilize millions of women for the democrats, they may have been independents, but they aren't anymore. Even conservative women want to control their own bodies with out government intrusion.
What a political disaster for the Republicans! The DNC didn't even have a plan for 2020, now they don't even need one.
These state abortion laws will not stand up in a lower court mush less SCOTUS. The GOP must be facepalming tonite all over America.
Yes there is, on both counts.
Stand your ground!
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: uncommitted
I'm really confused, on the first page of this thread you were angry at the politicians in Alabama making you all in your state look like 'hicks' - your word, not mine, and you clearly seemed to be against this - now you've changed your mind because of what exactly?
I am assuming you intended this to me...
I changed my mind because I finally realized that no matter what position I take, as long as Roe vs. Wade stands, there is a substantial part of the population who will demand that I not have any say in making the laws of this country, regardless of what that opinion is, because I am a male. I wish that were not the case, because I would much prefer to work together to find a solution that everyone can accept. But I will not give up my right to be a part of the legal process in order to accomplish that.
I still feel great sympathy for those who will be caught in a legal trap; I still think this new bill is far less than desirable overall, but there is simply nothing I can do about that. In a perfect world, I would be agreeing with people like IntoTheLight and Sookiechacha on this, but we do not live in a perfect world; we live in a world where one side will lose everything. I do not wish to lose everything. That's what changed my mind.
Roe vs. Wade must go.
originally posted by: LSU2018
originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Tempter
Such a backwards move for a country that likes to pretend it's the land of the free.
We don't have the freedom to murder. We may be the land of the free, but we also have laws.
What a strange reason!!!
But. You could retreat.
Hey you want to discuss. Lets discuss.
Just like you are acting like dead preteen girls is a worthy price to pay because someone hurt your little tender feelings.