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Alabama Senate passes nation’s most restrictive abortion ban

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posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar


Show me where i said that mens opinion shouldn't matter.

You complained that the state legislature was all male (ignoring the fact that the bill was introduced by a female member).

You openly stated men don't care about pregnancy issues.

TheRedneck

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posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:30 PM
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a reply to: Nyiah


That's why you're a dirt poor, religious excuse giving "American Afghanistan" joke to the rest of the country on a consistent basis.



Nice try. I ignore people who make such statements.

Roe vs. Wade is going down, buddy. We're done trying to save it.

TheRedneck



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:32 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


The Governor said she will have no problem meeting the costs of any legal challenges.

Not everyone places material wealth over moral convictions.

TheRedneck


You mean religious moral convictions and it's not her money to do with what she pleases.


Unless its to save themselves it can be considered murder under the commandment of thou shalt not murder.


God's commandment 'thou shalt not kill' - sure...




Deuteronomy 20:13-20 King James Version (KJV) 13

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16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Nyiah


That's why you're a dirt poor, religious excuse giving "American Afghanistan" joke to the rest of the country on a consistent basis.



Nice try. I ignore people who make such statements.

Roe vs. Wade is going down, buddy. We're done trying to save it.

TheRedneck

So sayeth the American Taliban come hell or high water, we know.

For people who reeeee over the non-existent threat of living under Muslim Sharia law & ideals, you sure have zero problem making people live under your version.



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:36 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: yuppa

Ya but them it goes on to tell about nice genocidal battles to claim the land that God promises them.


Where was that in the 10 commandments? Ill wait. War isnt considered murder. It lacks the aspect of a single person planning to kill another in cold blood. Its why God did not condemn soldiers for killing to stay alive.



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: Nyiah

I'm not making anyone live under my version of anything. Roe vs. Wade is doing that.

And it''s gone, buddy. History. In the past. Wave bye-bye.

TheRedneck



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: jaxnmarko


Why is it that a group made up of, I believe, entirely men (there may be a few women in the statehouse there)

What, men aren't allowed to make law anymore according to you?

Well, here's a little tip: the bill was sponsored by Terri Collins, a woman. It now goes to the Governor's desk... that would be Kay Ivey, a woman (who I am proud to support so far). Seems your belief is about as factual as the moon being made out of cheese. And even if it wasn't, how about this: every single politician in the statehouse was elected by women as well as men. Women get to vote in Alabama! How about that!

Here's an idea... I'll go along with this idea that men cannot vote in any way on any abortion-related issue if we can, at the same time, restrict women from voting on anything else. Hey, one idea makes as much sense as another!

TheRedneck


Which gender has all the power in the Alabama senate considering there are only four women members?

www.theguardian.com...

The same with Georgia.

www.ajc.com...


Men, and for a good reason. If you're looking for a world where girls rule, there's a fictional place called Themyscira.



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:41 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: InTheLight


I don't despise - I analyze.

You hide the difference very well.


No, you see what you want to see.



You mean religious moral convictions and it's not her money to do with what she pleases.

I know what I mean, and I mean moral convictions. You might want to try reading in the lines instead of between them... that doesn't seem to be your talent. Especially since you seem obsessed with religion. I have known church deacons who don't bring the Bible up out of the blue as much as you have.


I am just repeating what the Governor is saying and it is all based on her religious morals - "I am a Christian first" is what she said.


As Governor, actually it is her place to do as she sees fit with the money, as long as that is in line with the Alabama Constitution. I support her for having moral convictions. Incidentally, not having moral convictions was why I opposed Bob Bentley.

Her place is to get off up her butt and address the protesters outside her building.

TheRedneck

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posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:41 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

It is actually meant As Murder. How about study the actual meaning of the words used. It was originally understood as killing was murder in those days. Go ask a theologist .



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: InTheLight

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: jaxnmarko


Why is it that a group made up of, I believe, entirely men (there may be a few women in the statehouse there)

What, men aren't allowed to make law anymore according to you?

Well, here's a little tip: the bill was sponsored by Terri Collins, a woman. It now goes to the Governor's desk... that would be Kay Ivey, a woman (who I am proud to support so far). Seems your belief is about as factual as the moon being made out of cheese. And even if it wasn't, how about this: every single politician in the statehouse was elected by women as well as men. Women get to vote in Alabama! How about that!

Here's an idea... I'll go along with this idea that men cannot vote in any way on any abortion-related issue if we can, at the same time, restrict women from voting on anything else. Hey, one idea makes as much sense as another!

TheRedneck


Which gender has all the power in the Alabama senate considering there are only four women members?

www.theguardian.com...

The same with Georgia.

www.ajc.com...


Men, and for a good reason. If you're looking for a world where girls rule, there's a fictional place called Themyscira.


Nope, just where women have an equal voice and representation. Why do I have to keep repeating myself?



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Nyiah

I'm not making anyone live under my version of anything. Roe vs. Wade is doing that.

And it''s gone, buddy. History. In the past. Wave bye-bye.

TheRedneck

Roe v Wade doesn't make people get an abortion, it allows people to choose one if they deem it necessary.

Removing the option to make a choice & heavily penalizing it is hands-down making people live by your choices and only yours, exacting control and punishment based on what you believe and man, when those two come from religious strongholds, it's time to make parking lots. That's the standard excuse for scrubbing the ME, the lack of freedoms over there to choose (much of anything, let alone aborton) and subsequent excessive/unjustifiable punishments for trying have been the war-cry for decades of why we need to drop freedom bombs.

Obviously, with the water-testing here lately, we probably should be spreading the "freedom" around more locally, eh?



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: InTheLight

It is actually meant As Murder. How about study the actual meaning of the words used. It was originally understood as killing was murder in those days. Go ask a theologist .


Theologists are too busy arguing amongst themselves as to interpretation.



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight

www.learnreligions.com...

Read. The truth shall set you free.



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:48 PM
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Just a question...

Why don't Jews [gods chosen people] have the right wingers approach to abortion?

www.timesofisrael.com...

Ironic...
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posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight


No, you see what you want to see.

As does everyone else reading this, I would assume.


I am just repeating what the Governor is saying and it is all based on her religious morals - "I am a Christian first" is what she said.

And you believe that Christianity is anti-abortion, even though we both agree the Bible does not directly address the issue.

Right.

The Bible does address not persecuting the poor...


Her place is to get off up her butt and address the protesters outside her building.

Nah, let them make a few hours more pay... Soros can afford it.

Besides, even if she doesn't sign this bill... Georgia has one happening as well. Wave bye-bye to Roe vs. Wade!

Oh, and please, I'm begging you... do NOT try to advocate for women's suffrage. Many women fought hard to earn the right to vote and I'd hate to see them lose it because you wanted to be more influential.

TheRedneck



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:53 PM
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Roe v Wade doesn't make people get an abortion

No, it apparently makes men sit down in the corner and shut up, though.

Doesn't matter. Gone.

TheRedneck



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:54 PM
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a reply to: olaru12


Why don't Jews [gods chosen people] have the right wingers approach to abortion?

Because it sin't mentioned.

Having trouble keeping up?

TheRedneck



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: InTheLight

www.learnreligions.com...

Read. The truth shall set you free.


You mean the unbiased truth will set me free. Hypocrisy.



The Bible says, "Thou shalt not murder," yet God says to Joshua, "Go in and clean house, and don't leave anything breathing! Don't leave a donkey, child, woman, old man or old woman breathing. Wipe out Jericho."




"The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord" (Job 1:21). How he takes away is his call. He never wrongs anybody.


www.desiringgod.org...



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:57 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck


No, it apparently makes men sit down in the corner and shut up, though.


As a man, I've never tried to take a hard stance on this issue one way or the other, because it's a women's issue.

I should have no say in the reproductive rights of women. I understand the sentiment of a man wanting a say in what happens should a woman become pregnant with his seed. But in the end, it's her body that has to carry the child, and that should be her choice.

Bit of caveat, I have no kids and do not wish for kids. But if I did, I'd make sure I found the right woman, talk about it with her and make sure we have the same goals in said area. If she went crazy on me one day and pulled a 180, do I want her to be the mother of my child whom she doesn't want?



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

I believe the Governor and Senators who voted for this Bill are anti-abortion Christians...my point all along.



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