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Alert: Maine Senate Passes National Popular Vote Bill To Bypass Electoral College

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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:09 PM
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Democrats are lining up to ensure that they will never be out of power again by completely bypassing the electoral college. Instead of awarding the state's electoral votes to the winner of the state, they will give their votes to whoever wins the national popular vote. This means if 90% of the state voted for a Republican and the National popular vote showed Democrats winning that the state's electoral votes would be awarded to the Democrat candidate.

With laws like this, there will never be a 3rd party or Independent president, never. Democrats, why don't you just declare one party rule and change your name to the communist party?

While you're at it, just dissolve the Senate since the voice of individual states no longer matters. All elections will be decided by urban cities.

www.msn.com...




The Maine Senate on Tuesday backed an interstate effort to circumvent the Electoral College during a presidential election, voting 19-16 to pass a National Popular Vote bill.

The bill, sponsored by Maine Senate President Troy Jackson (D), will head to the state’s House, where it is expected to pass. Democratic Gov. Janet Mills (D) hasn’t yet stated whether she would support it.

To date, 14 states and Washington, D.C., have enacted National Popular Vote legislation, which requires all of that state’s electoral votes to be given to whichever presidential candidate wins the popular vote nationwide, rather than the candidate who won the vote in just that state.


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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:15 PM
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*sigh* I sure wish we could just eliminate both parties and have people with common sense get the electoral vote.


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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:17 PM
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This is so shortsighted, it's insane. In the end, these laws will either be found unconstitutional or cause major unrest throughout the country. It ultimately cripples the Midwest representation. People are going to feel extremely disenfranchised.

It's basically saying, however New York and LA vote, that's our president.
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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:18 PM
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This will come up before the SC well before 2020 rolls around.

A pretty easy case actually... voter disenfranchisement.

Hopefully someone will point out that if you don't follow the Federal mandates on it then your electoral votes don't count.

Give the Dems a trophy for trying to subvert the spirit of the law though....




posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:20 PM
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14 other states have already joined this pact include New Mexico with 5 electoral votes, Colorado with 9 electoral votes, Delaware with 3 electoral votes, California with 55 electoral votes, Massachusetts with 11 electoral votes, Illinois with 20 electoral votes, Hawaii with four electoral votes, Connecticut with seven electoral votes, Rhode Island with 4 electoral votes, Washington with 12 electoral votes, New York with 29 electoral votes, New Jersey with 14 electoral votes, Washington DC with 3 electoral votes, Vermont with 3 electoral votes, and Maryland with 10 electoral votes.


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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: sine.nomine

14 other states have already joined this pact include New Mexico with 5 electoral votes, Colorado with 9 electoral votes, Delaware with 3 electoral votes, California with 55 electoral votes, Massachusetts with 11 electoral votes, Illinois with 20 electoral votes, Hawaii with four electoral votes, Connecticut with seven electoral votes, Rhode Island with 4 electoral votes, Washington with 12 electoral votes, New York with 29 electoral votes, New Jersey with 14 electoral votes, Washington DC with 3 electoral votes, Vermont with 3 electoral votes, and Maryland with 10 electoral votes.

Or as I refer to them: the whiny bitch sore loser states.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: sine.nomine

14 other states have already joined this pact include New Mexico with 5 electoral votes, Colorado with 9 electoral votes, Delaware with 3 electoral votes, California with 55 electoral votes, Massachusetts with 11 electoral votes, Illinois with 20 electoral votes, Hawaii with four electoral votes, Connecticut with seven electoral votes, Rhode Island with 4 electoral votes, Washington with 12 electoral votes, New York with 29 electoral votes, New Jersey with 14 electoral votes, Washington DC with 3 electoral votes, Vermont with 3 electoral votes, and Maryland with 10 electoral votes.


That's because they have had time since 2016.

No way that's going to fly on a national level though.

Again, nice try Dems.

If it does somehow get by the SC then I see an Article 5 Convention soon after.



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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:29 PM
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I hope these anti-Constitutional dirtbags keep pushing this crap.

It'll make it so much easier to try and convict them later.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:49 PM
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I believe that SCOTUS will find it unconstitutional since it is the constitutional basis that the federal government was founded upon to give each state representation by their voters. The rule of law is falling apart in the US. Whenever the states started deciding which laws they would enforce, I said it is a matter of time before the rule of law started falling apart. It may have started with immigration law, and then soon followed gun law restrictions that Sheriff's refused to enforce, and now the electoral college.

If SCOTUS and the federal government doesn't put an end to this behavior, we will be sliding into anarchy and soon a civil war or a breakup of the union. Sore loser democrats want to change the SCOTUS because they no longer will be able to get their policies through the court because it is following the constitution due to the confirmation of constitutional conservative justices. The thing is that the states joined the union based on the constitutional construct. If certain groups alter this basic agreement, then the states should have the right to pull out of the union since the basis for being a member has changed.



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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:54 PM
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This Calls for President Trump to now use his Inherited Authority to send Troops to Maine and Quell this Rebellion ! An Attack on the Federal Governments Legal Power Bestowed Upon them through the Constitution of the United States Demands it !



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

The states probably have the authority to compel the electoral college to vote a specific way in pledging but have no legal grounds to enforce any penalties against faithless electors under Article II.
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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 07:12 PM
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If this comes up before the SC and they DONT put it down, Im fairly certain that will lead to some very very severe reprecussions as it will be a sign to over half the country that our gov no longer represents the will of the people, or the constitution of the United States and has gone rogue.


Thats not going to be a good situation.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 07:13 PM
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It's truly appalling to see the brazen circumvention and subversion of every concept that makes America free and unique in the world when people attempt to pass laws like these that have zero constitutional integrity.

The constitution IS the law against things like this, but there needs to be big penalties.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: drewlander
a reply to: Lumenari

The states probably have the authority to compel the electoral college to vote a specific way in pledging but have no legal grounds to enforce any penalties against faithless electors under Article II.


True, but everyone forgets this part of the process...


Each state's electoral votes are counted in a joint session of Congress on the 6th of January in the year following the meeting of the electors. Members of the House and Senate meet in the House chamber to conduct the official tally of electoral votes.


What if the joint session of Congress doesn't agree on how they should be counted?

What if, for instance, Republicans all just don't show up so no Quorum is reached in the Senate and House?

There are a few ways that this can be legally played.

There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires Electors to vote according to the results of the popular vote in their states.

SCOTUS has yet to make any determination YET on the laws these states are passing.

But I'm sure it will come to a head and be heard before the next election cycle.

Or again, we will probably see an Article 5 Convention before the election.

The Con-Con movement, last I heard, is 5 states away from a 2/3 majority of states needed.




posted on May, 14 2019 @ 07:21 PM
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Like other's have stated I believe this to be unconstitutional. However, if it is not brought before the SCOTUS or if it not ruled unconstitutional. . .

If I remember correctly the popular vote in 2016 was less than 3 million difference. I will laugh so hard when these states are forced to hand their EC votes to Trump.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 07:26 PM
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We'll have civil war instead of elections next year. I think it will be short.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 07:35 PM
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Well, there you go. This is what you get when you give an idiot a sledgehammer. You might as well have a dictatorship as to have a bunch of morons voting for the one they like and the one that promises them the world every time (but never delivers).

Voting was always a stupid idea. It's just that it was slightly better than everything that came before it.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

That's a shame. If there is one thing that works perfectly in this country it is the electoral college.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 08:07 PM
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This is a grave mistake. Listen closely, the war drums are beating, but softly. Where will the first battle begin?



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 08:17 PM
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A pretty easy case actually... voter disenfranchisement.


I keep seeing this bogus argument. No one is disenfranchised by popular vote; if anything, if is more inclusive, ensuring that every vote counts in he overall tally, and winner does not take all, which is what the EC does in the majority of states. Unless you mean that in by passing this the EC votes won't count and, therefore, under the current system, all voters of the state will be disenfranchised by their votes not being counted.

That said, I don't see how a state passing this law will hold any weight, when the EC is a constitutional issue, which states' can't very well skirt.







 
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