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originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
So you don't like Christian's?.
Hmmmph.
Well Dave, go hug your own Volcano - oh you already are - just don't sit on it especially if you are on a high fiber diet mind you that would be amusing to watch like blazing saddles takes on the atheists or something - then again you might get to heaven before us on that fart rocket bit like a levitating (yogic hopping) TM after a meal of Chilies and bean's.
Sorry could not resist.
Now snide comment's and sense of humor apart that is actually very interesting, the earth is not a perfect sphere more like a knobbly potato if you take away the liquid of our ocean's that is (though it is still mostly a sphere unlike accentuated artists renderings would suggest), also material in the crust and possibly below it is not always of uniform density, indeed that is why aluminum rich continental plates float over iron rich ocean plates.
Since the material below the crust may be in motion it is possible that some of this denser (but still semi fluid - then again geology regards most features as like viscous fluid over time) sub crustal material may actually move around over time and if so these gravity anomaly may actually be transitory phenomena that may move over century's or eon's as the slow moving sub-crustal material swirl's around inside our planet.
That made me think of a whole load of other fringe stuff and if perhaps one day future people would be able to harness that affect and even create it through artificial mean's, we may not be able to create artificial gravity (or can we?) but we may one day be able to control the density of different regions of our planet's surface of other other planet's that our descendants may one day reach - unless we go the other way and turn into a race of mole people or something.
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: bobs_uruncle
Sorry I had to make a joke you used the term AGCC which is usually taken to mean All God and Christian Council's.
And yes I shall read more of the comment's I just got a tiny bit riled but also found it humorous, other than that I totally agree with you and found that a fascinating point you made, as the earth's gravity varies so does the sea level in that region - I suspect that to get an accurate measure it would require satellite laser mapping of ocean surface height in relation to a stable and as damn near perfect as they could make it concentric orbit at a fixed altitude over the center of mass of the entire planet, any other method would likely have a far higher level of deviation due to other factor's (remember though even as best we could make it Gravity warp's space time so it would never be one hundred percent - it would be suitable though).
And I did not mean to offend so once again sorry.
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: DigginFoTroof
Wind and tidal variation's are noted and always have in different areas even within just a few miles of one another especially when ocean and river estuary current's meat and class.
Subsidence of land both natural and artificial (caused by human activity such as excessive artesian/ground water removal or fracking etc were these types of man made activity's can cause severe ground subsidence).
As for the pyramid's, most especially the expert's believe they are only about 5000 years or so old, I believe but only in the case of the Giza pyramid's that they are a lot older than that and the dream Stele (the one - of three - that survived with half it's text missing anyway) does not relate to building the pyramid's but to renovating them and the sphinx.
The Bent Pyramid however IS only as old as it is claimed to be BY Egyptology and I have no doubt they are correct were that is concerned and contrary to Egyptology explaining it as an earlier model I believe it was actually built a long time after the three at Giza and may be the largest surviving pyramid from Dynastic time's probably built aping the ancient Giza pyramid's which Egyptology claim's were build AFTER it, the standard reason given though remain's the same the builders did not know what they were doing and as they build it got too big and too heavy so started to crack and so they build it shorter than it would have been which also reduced the weight of the final structure.
Egypt is full of pyramid's including some that are currently not properly explained which may once even have rivaled or been larger than the Giza pyramid's.
www.ancient-code.com...
Likely if they did turn out to be real pyramid's and not merely terrain features - perhaps once shaped by human hand's?, then these WOULD turn out be from dynastic Egypt and unlike the Giza construction's and Wyses dodge fake hieroglyphics if there burial chambers are intact these may have a lot of secrets to give up - if they are ever taken seriously and excavated - but if the Giza pyramid's are as old as some including myself believe - later renovated and perhaps even expanded by the Egyptian dynasty's but a lot older than them then there is also a potential that other ancient pyramid's may exist that are not in as fine a state of preservation, were not renovated and have been ignored so just perhaps these might be the real ancient prototypes of the Giza pyramid's and also date from a far earlier and forgotten epoch in human history - just perhaps but I guess we shall never really know despite claim's by many on this site whom think they KNOW when in fact they also do not know they merely believe what they have been told and are in some cases expert's in disciplined built upon a house of card's.
You know the valley of King's has a pyramid shaped mountain, it is believed that this is one reason why it was used by many of the greatest rulers of Egypt as there burial place, but is that pyramid shaped mountain really just a natural formation - they most certainly do occur in nature - or could it too have been a natural feature that may once very long ago have been shaped by intelligent design and shaped by the hand of man or some other race now long gone.
www.walkopedia.net...
Maybe some of those older people's were more intelligent and sophisticated than is accepted today?.
www.themysteryofthecarpathiansphinxmovie.com...
And then you have the just plain weird and really far out spaced beliefs of new age fringe that just maybe if we could get all that tinsel and stupidity out of the way could be very interesting.
And then we have the REALLY unpopular claim's, some love them but other's see them as nothing but hill's with a con artist making claims about them, my gut feeling is that it is somewhere between the two and indeed they are artifacts and real but is everything he has claimed true?.
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: DigginFoTroof
There are gravity anomalies in the Indian ocean that I was told about by the captain of a search and rescue ship. He said that in some cases the water level dropped by around 100 feet over an area of 10 sq nautical miles and gradually climbed back up to normal ocean surfaces levels. He said it wasn't like there was a current pulling you towards the centre, it was more like a uniform anomaly. I have no reason to doubt him, he's a very smart man and he has worked on a plane crash I also worked on.
So, don't know if the island is sinking, it's tidal effects or gravity anomalies, but there is general a science based explanation that has nothing to do with the nasty religion of anthropogenic/anthropromorphic climate change.
And for all the AGCC crazies out there, go hug a volcanoe :-)
Cheers - Dave
originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: DigginFoTroof
There are gravity anomalies in the Indian ocean that I was told about by the captain of a search and rescue ship. He said that in some cases the water level dropped by around 100 feet over an area of 10 sq nautical miles and gradually climbed back up to normal ocean surfaces levels. He said it wasn't like there was a current pulling you towards the centre, it was more like a uniform anomaly. I have no reason to doubt him, he's a very smart man and he has worked on a plane crash I also worked on.
So, don't know if the island is sinking, it's tidal effects or gravity anomalies, but there is general a science based explanation that has nothing to do with the nasty religion of anthropogenic/anthropromorphic climate change.
And for all the AGCC crazies out there, go hug a volcanoe :-)
Cheers - Dave
Was this gravity issue near Yemen by any chance? I heard about one near the horn of Africa some time ago, the report said they felt like they were sailing up a large wave when it was supposed to be flat. If that is really what happened that would be one scary @zz thing to experience, I'd think I was getting sucked into a "whirlpool" or water vortex behind me.