Time to Ask WHAT TEMPERATURE IS PERFECT for the average on Earth?

What temp is it that you think is good, anyone?

I am starting this because so called Science lovers like the Astronomy guy on ATS are feeding the lie about the Climate that bad old man is raising the seal levels. This has become Political and not very Scientifically accurate for the official story, I call a lie.

Here is one possibility that someone here will deny deny deny, mark my words one already has a couple of times in other threads.

Continually magma is pushing up the mantle and rising to toward New England. Magma has lots of heat. There are many other reports of this nature if you plug in Magma movements in a Search Engine. This one is from Nat Geo:
news.nationalgeographic.com...



Be advised of the statistical manipulation of using a very small range of predicted change in a very large range of probable outcomes.
realclimatescience.com...


Here is one that researches the data and concludes that real world Temps are cooler than the models:
www.cfact.org...


Then be aware of how much the Doom Porn CO2 is bad crowd has been proven TRUE. You can decidede.

This disputes CO2 heating the Earth quite well. Because CO2 and NO spike up thru our Atmosphere to Space and release energy. Heat is an expression of Energy for those who didn't take Physics:
coldclimatechange.com...

Use your own brains and obtain an informed opinion based on data that you can analyze yourself.


ETA

I will try to keep up with your choices and report back, I welcome a discussion on the data.

a reply to: Justoneman

Is the rising magma also causing the ice melt?

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Justoneman

Is the rising magma also causing the ice melt?

It wouldn't cause it to form I am certain of that. The ice calving off of Antarctica have been shown to be over Volcanoes.
www.nsf.gov...

www.sciencenewsforstudents.org...

a reply to: CriticalStinker
Did someone say MAG-MA?




Seriously I personally like 70F, but that is just me.

a reply to: shooterbrody

70 F or about 21 C.

I like that too.

ETA

Equilibrium is a state of balance. I would ask do people know how impossible that would be? If it did happen we would lose diversity of species more than they think we already have.

George Carlin sure got that subject right. None of it matters he said. The Earth is going to F us in the end like shaking off a case of the fleas on it's surface.Probably the Earth wanted Plastic and now that we gave it Plastic, we can die like so many species before we ever existed.
Circa 1987 I believe.

I personally don't like going any higher than 65. My most comfortable range is 55 - 65. Anything higher than that and I start getting too hot.

a reply to: Justoneman

But it's not just in one part of Antarctica that we're seeing it.

I'm not sold on man made global warming, though man assisted sounds a bit better.

We have a large impact on our planet, and that is evident in many ways.

The extent to me on how much impact we have on the warming is kind of moot. We could have better quality of life if we reduce our reliance on fossil fuels. Clean renewable energy can make cleaner air and sever our reliance on asshole countries for their oil.

68 degrees fahrenheit (20 Degrees Celsius) ... Seems like the PLAN

10 interesting facts about the Pyramids of Giza

6. Despite the scorching heat that can often be felt in Egypt, the temperature inside the pyramids remains a constant 20 C – the average temperature on earth.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I am with you but the experts I have trusted, since I see their data to be the truth, is we do affect our ECOSYSTEM. But like Carlin said the Earth don't care it will clean us off one day. Species don't live forever.

The early part of the OP I am talking about statistics and that is key to data analysis.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

The extent to me on how much impact we have on the warming is kind of moot.

It is not to the "carbon tax" people.

Clean renewable energy can make cleaner air and sever our reliance on asshole countries for their oil.

yeah but then the S&*thole countries aspire to be a$$hole countries and have their natural resouces(fossil fuels) exploited by the man
I agree we should lessen our reliance on a$$hole countries.

Should we start with canada?

THIS was cheated out of being your way to work until lately.


2013 article about the car that was designed to crack H2O on demand. Buitl about 1990 or so with the help of Nissan of N A.

phys.org...

Millions of years of history.
Millions of years of changing climate.
Millions of years of flourishing life.

But by god it should be stable like a fricken aquarium today.

Dinosaurs came and went.
Man will go eventually.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Should we start with canada?

Absolutely. I've been there, calling that place civilized is one of the biggest lies sold to humanity. I've had their bacon and it's a lie.

But seriously, all I'm saying is if there are so many benefits to shifting our energy mix to clean renewable sources... Why push back on it. Big oil has a lot of money and lobbyists that are going to muddy the water. But if everyone can transition smoothly to other sources of energy in a way that doesn't effect their wallets or quality of life... I'm all for it.

I don't personally buy into the hype that we're gonna die if we don't anytime soon, just saying we could make a bit of advancements anyways. But if for whatever reason this all does make the planet inhospitable, I don't care, I don't have kids and don't plan on making any little poop machines anyways.

But if everyone can transition smoothly to other sources of energy in a way that doesn't effect their wallets or quality of life... I'm all for it.

That is almost too sensible, congress would never go for it.

I don't personally buy into the hype that we're gonna die if we don't anytime soon, just saying we could make a bit of advancements anyways.

I agree, one does not have to believe climate doom porn to be a good steward of the environment.
It is not a zero sum game.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

You seem to grasp both the true nature of this and can reason with the data in an honest way.

As does ShooterBrody. We can discuss this properly that way.

a reply to: Justoneman

Thanks man.

It's happening one way or the other, so much so that there are Artic shipping lanes being developed (and contested) by many players.

But we're at a crossroads, Pandora's box is open to some extent as some of the changes are likely here to stay or at least for a long time. Do we try to mitigate man's effect on the planet? Personally I say yes... That doesn't mean a full 180 on our energy mix but an honest effort at diversifying it. We'll have to make the full shift one day though, Oil won't last forever.

a reply to: Justoneman

This is a question I've asked numerous times but none of the climate change alarmist have been able to answer. The way climate change is touted, you'd think scientist have an optimal temperature in mind.

We all know the earth was warmer in the past, so who is to say that we aren't simply going back to that baseline?

The other question I always ask is why is it a bad thing? We know warmer climates can be more fertile, so again, why is it is bad thing?

Do you think having massive glaciers and an ice covered continent would be a "normal" state for the world? I don't.

originally posted by: Edumakated
a reply to: Justoneman

This is a question I've asked numerous times but none of the climate change alarmist have been able to answer. The way climate change is touted, you'd think scientist have an optimal temperature in mind.

We all know the earth was warmer in the past, so who is to say that we aren't simply going back to that baseline?

The other question I always ask is why is it a bad thing? We know warmer climates can be more fertile, so again, why is it is bad thing?

Sound reasoning. Plus an equilibrium is not ideal at all for a Dynamic thing.

a reply to: Justoneman

There is a thought experiment I want to present for this premise however.

Can our water practices be shifting the tectonic plates and sub sequentially the magma? I know it sounds crazy but hear me out.

We've been draining many of the large aquifers for farming at a faster rate than they are being replenished. This creates a void with air, and ass we know air can be compressed while water cannot. Certain regions have vast expanses like the High Planes Aquifer that is similar in size to Lake Huron and being depleted.