USS Lincoln strike group deployed to send Iran 'clear and unmistakable' message, Bolton says

originally posted by: haman10
Blah blah. This is becoming more and more boring everyday. Neocons in US have been drooling over war with Iran for over 4 decades.
Now that ordinary Iranian citizens are deprived from basic human rights like access to medicine because of unhumane and disgusting sanctions of US trump regime, we really don't care anymore. Neocons in US should know that we have nothing to lose and we're mentally prepared for an extensive war. So.....

*P.S: when i first joined this forum i was all like "lets have peace instead of war" but now that my close relative who has breast cancer can't get her hands on the needed medicine because of sanctions, I'm all for it. Lets get this sorted out immediately

That's just wrong. Maybe she could cross over the Mexican border. That would be immediate.

a reply to: gortex

Sadly it's not just the neo cons who beat the war drums. Hell, even the media will praise Trump when he does symbolic nothing air strikes in Syria.

The only thing unique about neo cons is that they bitch about spending unless it's for war.

Is this warning to Iran that no one is listening to the U.S. threats and continuing trade with Iran?

The U.S. is very quickly becoming the bully that no one is scared of.

"War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over."
- William Tecumseh Sherman

originally posted by: haman10
Now that ordinary Iranian citizens are deprived from basic human rights like access to medicine because of unhumane and disgusting sanctions of US trump regime, we really don't care anymore. Neocons in US should know that we have nothing to lose and we're mentally prepared for an extensive war. So.....

You mean the sanctions that Carter imposed.

Bolton is only there in the WH inner circle because the Administration of potus #44 decimated the military for 8 years and many holdovers are still busy being seditionist 'bad actors'...


its all right--- its all right...… there's a pragmatic CEO steering the Ship-of-State
besides, Iran still has some of the Ransom monies ($150 Billion in pallets of cash/gold) that BHO AirCraft Delivered them in that Fake Nuclear Deal that he personally ramrodded as an unsigned Treaty.

NY Times = TRAITOR to America.

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Nonsense, pure and simple. Just rhetoric. One to two Carrier Strike Groups have been within striking distance of Iran every month for at least twenty years. When one leaves, another one shows up, over and over and over again. This is not special or different in any way. Why are they there? To protect (oil) shipping lanes. Anyone who thinks this deployment is a prelude to something escalating has not been paying attention.

a reply to: St Udio

its all right--- its all right...… there's a pragmatic CEO steering the Ship-of-State besides, Iran still has some of the Ransom monies ($150 Billion in pallets of cash/gold) that BHO AirCraft Delivered them in that Fake Nuclear Deal that he personally ramrodded as an unsigned Treaty.

Oh yeah , that money that was theirs but was being illegally held by the US who were subject to court action over it , you mean that money ?

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: St Udio

its all right--- its all right...… there's a pragmatic CEO steering the Ship-of-State besides, Iran still has some of the Ransom monies ($150 Billion in pallets of cash/gold) that BHO AirCraft Delivered them in that Fake Nuclear Deal that he personally ramrodded as an unsigned Treaty.

Oh yeah , that money that was theirs but was being illegally held by the US who were subject to court action over it , you mean that money ?

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you say To-mate-o...
I say To-motto-e…


yep, USDs that were impounded as 'evidence' that the money was All 'laundered' via front businesses...too much to litigate in the long run...

imo, both systems (iran & usa) need swept away, replaced, both are corrupted versions of their Ideals

a reply to: Onlyyouknow

And.........thats all about preserving the US Dollar status as world reserve currency.

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The intelligence about a possible Iranian plot is not very specific at this stage, but the officials said it was clear the threat was against a U.S. target in the Gulf or U.S. allies like Saudi Arabia or the UAE.

so why not let Saudi Arabia or the UAE take care of this themselves?
or the Israelis for that matter?

If the Iranians are stupid enough to attack the usa then they deserve what they get.
I am tired of being the big stick for multiple countries across the globe.
Isn't that the entire point of the carrier strike force? So we don't have to rely on other nations?

originally posted by: shooterbrody
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The intelligence about a possible Iranian plot is not very specific at this stage, but the officials said it was clear the threat was against a U.S. target in the Gulf or U.S. allies like Saudi Arabia or the UAE.

so why not let Saudi Arabia or the UAE take care of this themselves?
or the Israelis for that matter?

If the Iranians are stupid enough to attack the usa then they deserve what they get.
I am tired of being the big stick for multiple countries across the globe.
Isn't that the entire point of the carrier strike force? So we don't have to rely on other nations?

So if the USA are stupid enough to attack Iran that’s ok in your books?

a reply to: Lagomorphe

Nowhere did I post that.
I posted that if the Iranians are stupid enough to attack the usa then they will get what they deserve.

With the reveal that the "intelligence" came from the Israelis it loses credibility imo.
The Israelis have enough military might to fight their own battles, as do the Saudis and UAE.

Same old stuff posted. About US military intervention and the US is bad. We stick our nose in when it’s not needed yes I understand that .

But have any you ever stopped to think that occasionally it’s justified ?

For the sake of argument I’m going to say every other time that the US intervene history of mankind was wrong.

Just to concentrate on this time particular incident .

Nobody has any idea what the intelligence is.

Can’t we take a second so we can give a informed opinion ?

That being said I’m on to my original thought. I saw Zap mention it but there is a combat operational strike group of F 35 C’s on the Abraham Lincoln.

I wonder if they will be pulling escort duty for the bombers in the event a strike happens ?

a reply to: Fallingdown

But have any you ever stopped to think that occasionally it’s justified ?

How many times will the same action produce the same result and yet you still think it may be "justified"?
Were we attacked?
Do we not have forward deployed resources with which to return fire?

Projection of power is a waste of resources and provides additional targets. Is this the great white fleet of the 1900's?
Is the world still unfamiliar with the destruction we can conjure?

This is bs.

a reply to: Fallingdown

They didn't stay on board. They were part of operational testing, and aren't scheduled for their first deployment until 2021. There is a group of A models in the AOR though.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Iran could nuke Israel tomorrow. And people because of personal hatred for the US some would be saying we shouldn’t get involved . By the way most of the time others act with us primarily the UK. The British conquered the world you don’t hear about the British white fleet .

There Is seldom if ever hear any grief thrown against them for past or current actions . TDS is prevalent and recognized this is just another form called USDS . Personal animosity pollutes many peoples opinion.

Do you already have a negative opinion on what’s happening or are you going to wait before you pass judgment ?

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard has been named a terrorist org. This itching to attack Iran forces is going to get scratched.