Rockets do not work in the vacuum of space. You will believe anything "expert" scientists say.

originally posted by: NicSign
a reply to: oldcarpy

Show some 20 different independent amateur photos of the iss.

Google results in cgi and fakes

Google Xbox one console and you see hundreds of them , all independent of each other

Why do you need photos when the proof lies in over a 1000 satellites broadcasting from the vacuum of space. Do you have evidence those transmissions are from some other source.

originally posted by: oldcarpy

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: NicSign

You are making a fool of yourself. There are plenty of photos out there of the ISS taken by amateur astronomers but plainly even if someone took you up into space and showed you the ISS you would find some pathetic excuse to call it fake. Give it up, stop flogging this very dead horse of yours. It's starting to smell.

I think the individual was wanting to get famous off junk science like flat earther Mark Sargent, and is just bitter only ending up looking stupid as their only award.

Probably right. I saw a Youtube video a while back that claimed the ISS was fake (a hologram or a balloon or somesuch nonsense) because it would be impossible for a spacewalk outside the station because the speed it was travelling at would cause the astronauts to be ripped away from it by the wind. In space.

You can't argue with stupid, but in this case I doubt this poster actually believes any of his/her guff. At least, I hope not.

It’s amazing people like Mark Sargent will kill their credibility for speaking engagements. And it’s not about questioning. Always question. It’s the falsehoods people like flat earthers get called on, and how they turn to right out lying.

a reply to: neutronflux

Those transmissions can use radio. BBC was broadcasted in the USA prior to satellites

a reply to: NicSign

But they don't. They use satellites. Prove me wrong.

originally posted by: NicSign
a reply to: neutronflux

Those transmissions can use radio. BBC was broadcasted in the USA prior to satellites

I am asking for proof the signals coming from the satellites in orbit are something else. Saying something “could be” is not proof of anything.

I could say you are a shoplifter, and that is a possibility. But it’s meaningless with no proof.

Again. For people that use satellite internet service in remote areas where there is no other internet service, what proof do you have they are not getting internet service.

When people are at sea, and the only weather broadcast they can get is SiriusXM satellite weather, what proof do you have they are not getting weather data from a satellite.

When people sight, photograph, and post pictures of the ISS as it traveled over head as scheduled, what proof do you have what is tracked, sighted, photographed is something other than the International space station.

What do you not get there are man made satellites in orbit around the earth in the vacuum of space.

a reply to: neutronflux

So your only evidence is satellite service which could be replaced by ground based technology.

www.extremetech.com...

originally posted by: NicSign
a reply to: neutronflux

So your only evidence is satellite service which could be replaced by ground based technology.

www.extremetech.com...

Then show the position of the line of sight towers In Canada where the only available internet is from satellite. By pointing a dish that can be lower than the tree line at the sky. Not some fix point along the horizon.

And explain where all the broadcasts originating from earth orbit in the vacuum of space are coming from.

Are you saying the is no proof satellites are broadcasting from the vacuum of space?

a reply to: NicSign

And.....


When people sight, photograph, and post pictures of the ISS as it traveled over head as scheduled, what proof do you have what is tracked, sighted, photographed is something other than the International space station.

What do you not get there are man made satellites in orbit around the earth in the vacuum of space.

a reply to: NicSign

How To Align A Satellite Dish

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I have written this blog to help people attempting to align their satellite dish with useful tips and advice which could save you a lot of money, depending how many times you do it by not having to call out a professional satellite dish installer. Beware that this is not a task for the faint hearted as you must be very accurate with dish alignments. An adjustment of only a few millimetres down here on earth can become a huge distance when up at the satellites that orbit the earth at around 22,236 miles or 35,786 kilometres away from the earth’s surface. Because of the distance away from the earth, the focused satellite beams as is the case for Astra 2 at 28.2E and the very high frequencies that satellite TV broadcasts use you must be very accurate with the dish alignment, which is why it is so much easier with a good satellite alignment tool.



Before you start it’s important to know that for satellite dish alignment you must have a clear un-obstructed clear view of the satellites in space. This means there can be no trees or buildings in the wall or temporary structures like scaffolds and the satellite dish cannot work when installed inside the building, like discreetly in a loft. It would be nice, but not possible.

Is the below how you line up on a line of sight ground based internet tower?

Elevation Adjustment


Once you have the azimuth set correctly so will need to correctly set the elevation angle before you find the satellite, this is again given in an angle, but the absolute correct angle will depend on where you are on the earth. As the telecommunication satellites orbit around the equator, the Astra 2 satellites occupy a geo-stationary orbit position above the Democratic Republic of Congo for example the closer the equator you’re the higher in the Sky the satellites will be in the horizon. Until you get to the equator where the satellites will literally be straight up above you, the other extreme of this will be in places like Iceland where the satellites will appear very low on the horizon which can make line of sight much trickier due to nearby obstructions like trees and nearby buildings.



It is worth noting that for satellite dish alignments in the Northern Hemisphere, like Europe, the USA and North America all satellite dishes will be pointing south towards the equator and for satellite dish installations in the Southern hemisphere you would point your satellite dish North. So, for satellite dish alignments in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa please bear in mind the you are pointing the opposite way so some parts of this article you may need to adjust your thinking as it has been written from a UK perspective.



The reason I say that the elevation is not as important as the azimuth alignment, when in reality, it is just as important is because once you have the azimuth set it is far easier getting the elevation right rather than the other way around. Most satellite dishes usually have on them an elevation angle setting which will help you get the right sort of region for the elevation angle setting. Just bare in mind that this angle on the dish itself assumes that the dish has been mounted on a perfectly flat, vertical surface which is quite uncommon. Many dishes also have a spirit level in built like the UK style Sky satellite dishes to assist you with this but beware these are not the best and can often be an impedance to you.

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a reply to: neutronflux

Or line of sight with towers.

originally posted by: NicSign
a reply to: neutronflux

Or line of sight with towers.

How are satellite dishes pointed at the sky lined up with only line of sight tower?

The first two first satellite dishes my parents had, had the top edge of the disc at most ten feet off the ground. The property was big enough the dish pointed at the sky unobstructed. However, the property had 20 feet to 50 feet trees all around. The satellite dish sat lower than the tree line of the rural area, making it impossible to use line of sight.

a reply to: NicSign

And ......

When people sight, photograph, and post pictures of the ISS as it traveled over head as scheduled, what proof do you have what is tracked, sighted, photographed is something other than the International space station.

What do you not get there are man made satellites in orbit around the earth in the vacuum of space.


Then show the position of the line of sight towers In Canada where the only available internet is from satellite. By pointing a dish that can be lower than the tree line at the sky. Not some fix point along the horizon.

And explain where all the broadcasts originating from earth orbit in the vacuum of space are coming from.

Are you saying the is no proof satellites are broadcasting from the vacuum of space?

a reply to: NicSign

Except it isn't. Prove otherwise.

a reply to: NicSign


Below is the outline of the launch, placement, data provided by the Sentinel-1A. If it’s not a satellite, what is broadcasting from Sentinel-1A’s position?

Orbit
Sentinel-1 will be in a near-polar, sun-synchronous orbit with a 12 day repeat cycle and 175 orbits per cycle for a single satellite. Both Sentinel-1A and Senitnel-1B share the same orbit plane with a 180° orbital phasing difference. With both satellites operating, the repeat cycle is 6 days.
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Launch of the rocket that placed Sentinel 1A.

Onboard camera view: launch and separation of Sentinel-1A

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Placed this item into space:

Sentinel-1A

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Sentinel-1A is a European radar imaging satellite launched in 2014. It is the first Sentinel-1 satellite launched as part of the European Union's Copernicus programme. The satellite carries a C-band Synthetic Aperture Radar which will provide images in all light and weather conditions. It will track many aspects of our environment, from detecting and tracking oil spills and mapping sea ice to monitoring movement in land surfaces and mapping changes in the way land is used.

Launch

Sentinel-1A was launched on 3 April 2014 by a Soyuz rocket at 21:02:31 GMT (23:02:31 CEST). The first stage separated 118 seconds later, followed by the fairing (209 s), second stage (287 s) and the upper assembly (526 s).[6] After a 617-second burn, the Fregat upper stage delivered Sentinel into a Sun-synchronous orbit at 693 km altitude. The satellite separated from the upper stage 23 min 29 s after liftoff.

And produced these radar images

Sentinel-1A Satellite delivers first Radar Images of Earth

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The newly launched Sentinel-1A satellite has returned the first images acquired with its high-fidelity radar system. Sentinel-1A is making good progress in its commissioning phase that will prepare the satellite for regular acquisition of high-resolution and calibrated radar images for release through the European Commission’s Copernicus program.

Following a close call in the first night of the mission that featured an unprecedented Debris Avoidance Maneuver (a story told here by the mission team), Sentinel-1A continued its early operations with flying colors – being awarded a clean bill of health and beginning to collect radar images of chosen targets on Earth.

This is some of the access offered by the European Space Agency from the Sentinel Program

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Sentinel data products are made available systematically and free of charge to all data users including the general public, scientific and commercial users. The data will be delivered within an hour of reception for Near Real-Time (NRT) emergency response, within three hours for NRT priority areas and within 24 hours for systematically archived data.

All data products are distributed in the Sentinel Standard Archive Format for Europe (SAFE) format.

Each mode can potentially produce products at SAR Level-0, Level-1 SLC, Level-1 GRD, and Level-2 OCN.

Data products are available in single polarisation (VV or HH) for Wave mode and dual polarisation (VV+VH or HH+HV) or single polarisation (HH or VV) for SM, IW and EW modes.

How to get Sentinel data

Access to Sentinel data via download

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The free, full and open data policy adopted for the Copernicus programme foresees access available to all users for the Sentinel data products, via a simple self-registration. News and further information about the service is available here.

a reply to: NicSign

Arbitrarily claiming anything that invalidates your faith is CGI is not evidence of anything other than your inability to make an argument, try harder.

a reply to: captainpudding

Prove that there is an equal and opposite force from gas movement due to pressure gradient force. Mere images that can be potentially altered or fabricated is not evidence.

originally posted by: NicSign
a reply to: captainpudding

Prove that there is an equal and opposite force from gas movement due to pressure gradient force. Mere images that can be potentially altered or fabricated is not evidence.

What do you not understand the kinetic energy comes from the chemical reaction of the reacting rocket fuel that causes the gas to expand and causes the mass of the gas molecules to collide with the rocket motor wall.

Your argument is so false and debunked.

a reply to: NicSign

Now show proof the Sentinel 1A satellite is not collecting radar data from the vacuum of space, and broadcasting that data back to earth.

a reply to: NicSign

Nasa will allow tourists to live inside the International Space Station


www.independent.co.uk... ml

a reply to: NicSign

Go get yourself a fire extinguisher, stand outside and discharge it, now tell me that gas has no mass.