Happy cinco de mayo, Not.....

a reply to: Nyiah

?!?!

So you consider “ the marketing history of cinco de Mayo “ something that should have made the American curriculum ?!?!

Lol..

I’m sure better arguments can be made against the US educational system..

a reply to: stosh64

It is funny that I have never personally met one of these proposed “crazy offended by everything progressives”. in real life..

I assume some have to exist.. there are some of everything in America, but if it is rare enough that I have never ever met one.....

a reply to: ketsuko

the smallest heretical stain on a person

Well, besides finding the Americas on accident. Columbus also accomplished decimating native populations with disease, along with torturing, raping, and enslaving. Yes, ketsuko very small.

Holocaust remembrance reminds us the horrors the come from a war like WW2, and what we fought for. Pearl Harbor reminds us of that same fact. All Columbus day does is hail and honor a man whom accidently discovered America, and used his discover to abuse and torture the natives.

You can keep saying "SJWs!", or "they're trying to remove history" all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that we are naming a day after a single man who embodied true evil.

Removing Columbus day won't rid his accomplishments from history books, and it's such a damn silly argument that you present in claiming such a thing.

So,of course, we must purge both from history.

No one is asking to start burning history books and rewrite them.

You're right about Genghis Khan. I mentioned him because he was uniquely brilliant in war. I enjoyed learning about him. However, should we have a genghis khan day? No.

What isn't mentioned so much about Khan is his terrible cruelty that he used as a strategy. He would have his armies rape all ages of women in front of their husbands or brothers, before they we're all murdered. He then would have a survivor go to the next town and tell of the unspeakable acts. And yes, many many conquerers used terrible acts to intimidate their enemies. That doesn't make it morally acceptable or worth celebrating. It's just interesting and note-worthy.

However, I obviously don't need to inform you of Khan's history. It's just an example of another cruel person who should not be celebrating because it presents nothing positive.

Martin Luther King day - positive for civil rights
Memorial Day - positive honoring
Independence Day - positive reminder of America's begining
Labor Day - positive (some people get off work
Thanksgiving - Built on myths, but still positive

*Colombus Day* - Most people know he was a cruel person who terrorized natives and brought disease. He stumbled upon Americas by accident and "discovered" a continent with people already living on it.

Now that most people realize the true history of Columbus it is only negativity. It's only a clinging to the old ways that you defend this utterly pointless holiday that could be replaced with much better men.

How about, "America Day". Celebrating the history of America and the natives. Or something like that. Instead, you want to cling to a holiday that focuses on one man who brings nothing but negativity.

a reply to: ketsuko

SJWs are steadily marching through history and purging it of all thoughtcriminals so that we may not utter their names or speak of their non-thoughtcrime related achievements.

In some aspects, yes. However, on the other side, there are old-timers that refuse to admit anything was a bad idea. Is it so hard to take a middle ground and admit that some things, like jim-crow era confederate statues should be relocated to museums or historical areas?

It's like you got liberals saying everything is racist and wrong, and then people who say NOTHING is racist and wrong.

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Bloodworth

Ghengis Khan did an amazing feat too. He conquered amazing amounts of land through mass rape, torture and extreme violence. However, he was one of the best conquerors of all-time. Started by a less civilized nomad pwople non-the-less.

Amazing feats don't take away your terrible deeds. While people like Columbus and ghengis khan are history changers, they have no honor. They willingly, with options not to, created mass suffering and terrible carnage.

What's sad is that, if you can attain the status of greatness in history, then suddenly all your terrible deeds are undone by the greatness or at least glossed over.

What columbus day shows is that morality is of no concern if you can do great things. A terrible lesson for kids. Let him be another figuare in history, but don't give him the honor of devoting a day to a man whose least violent act and commands were rape.

Well said, but those times were more violent.
Ever see red dawn and listen to what the teacher says about ghengis Khan.
Khan would surround entire cities and when he gave the order to start the attack, the killing would go on for weeks.
Every person, animal and trace of that civilization was completely destroyed.

originally posted by: JustJohnny
So after the British begged the colonists to pay some small amount of taxes and the colonists still refused the British taxed tea, since it was imported and they could actually control it..

Enter the revolution lol.

Contrary to popular myth, the revolutionary war didn't have anything to do with a little tea tax. As always, it was about who controls the money.

originally posted by: rickymouse
Just like we made heros out of our forefathers who fought a war over tea.

Again, it wasn't about tea, it was about the control of the money supply.

originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: Nyiah

?!?!

So you consider “ the marketing history of cinco de Mayo “ something that should have made the American curriculum ?!?!

Lol..

I’m sure better arguments can be made against the US educational system..

Don't you think if people actually knew what happened that day and how it turned some things around at the time, they would know better than to assume things? Or fall for idiotic marketing?