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What Will History Books Say About The Democrats in Power from 2009 thru Today?.

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posted on May, 7 2019 @ 10:38 AM
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a reply to: JustJohnny



“It isn’t the group of white supremacists chanting with tiki torches who are the racists... it is the democrats..”


Oh my, the brainwashing is strong in this one. No one contends that neo-nazi's are not racists. But hey, you love your straw men.

Look, it's scientifically proven that liberals are racists. They view black and brown people as dumb and even adjust the way they talk when addressing them. Because obviously they're too dumb to understand the genius liberals. Study.

An actual klansman was hillary's mentor. Funny how lionized he was when he died, having done nothing for anyone really. But we definitely need to remove the statues of our founders and other prominent figures in our history because they may have been racists. Don't mind our excessive eulogizing of our resident klansman though.

Combine this with the absolute nothing the dems have done for the minority community over the last 50 years (other than pander for votes and call all of their opponents racists) and it's blatantly obvious who the real racists are. It's not the people waving a flag. It's the ones currently pushing for a soft genocide of an entire race (that'd be the lefties).




posted on May, 14 2019 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny
Trump successfully prosecuting comey, Clinton or anyone else would be instant vindication... so why isn’t he doing that??

Because there is no evidence so he can’t.

Patience, grasshopper.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny
But I don’t know how your gonna shift a gop policy into the democrats lap?!?

Done't get me wrong, I am as against the Patriot Act and what it stands for as anything, but only because of the potential for abuse, and abuse is exactly what the democrats/Obama did.

So, the mere existence of the Patriot Act did not give Obama/democrats the lawful authority to engage in the spying they engaged in. That is why some of them are going to jail (or worse).



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 04:19 PM
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Rotflmao!

Thanks, I needed that...


originally posted by: icanteven
a reply to: carewemust

These things are likely or represent recent history:

- Obama was the most consequential president of his time, having set the country on the path to universal healthcare, and inspiring a generation of millennials to liberal activism.
- Impeachment hearings for president Trump followed the same trajectory as Watergate. Democrats began with a series of hearings to grab the media spotlight before they shifted to formal impeachment proceedings. The parallels between Watergate and Obstructiongate were uncanny, from administration officials not attending congressional hearings to the executive unsuccessfully attempting to discredit the special prosecutor’s report.
- At the midterm elections in 2018, voters elected the most women in history, the vast majority of whom were Democrats. Empowered by success and animated by unsuccessful GOP efforts to strip them of reproductive rights, women captured the presidency and went on to gain majorities in both houses of Congress.
- After retaking the presidency in 2020, Democrats freed the children of migrants from Trump-administration concentration camps along the border. Ever since, America has tried to reckon with the damage done to families and children that Trump’s atrocity caused.





posted on May, 14 2019 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: r0xor
It's going to say..

"These worthless POS traitors tried to destroy America until Trump became President for a second, then third term. After him Vice President Mike Pence continued to become a two term President and his VP became President after. Thus securing American Freedom for a century and putting a much needed end to the Democrat predisposition."

Pence? No way...

Candace Owens? Ben Shapiro? Now we're talking...



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: r0xor

After Donald Trump's 3rd term, America would most likely prefer IVANKA Trump. A beautiful, smart, woman President would be perfect for our affluence and national brand, come 2029.

No thanks, shes not her father - she (and her husband) is (are) much more globalist.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Yea....


You believe the democrats are the party of the confederacy and racists....while the only people flying confederate flags and attending white supremacy rallies are card carrying conservative Republicans... And I am the one propagandized..


Lol...


I really don’t see how anyone could fall for that.. that leads me to believe no one actually buys it and people are just talking nonsense..


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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

So assuming nothing ever happens.. then my point is valid, right??

If they are prosecuted then obviously I was wrong..



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

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Obama just continues the bush era policies... which trump has expanded by “removing the leash “ off the military...


As far as the fisa stuff..

None of trumps claims have been verified, and he can declassify anything and prove whatever instantly..


The fact he doesn’t imho proves it doesn’t say what he is claiming it does.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 05:55 PM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: tanstaafl

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Obama just continues the bush era policies...

Ummm... no, Obama weaponized the Intelligence Agencies and used them for highly illegal purposes.

If Bush, or Trump, or anyone else did the same thing, I'd be calling for their heads on a platter too.


As far as the fisa stuff..

None of trumps claims have been verified,

???

Trumps claims? Wtf are you talking about?


and he can declassify anything and prove whatever instantly.

Yeah, buckle up Buck Rogers, its gonna be a wild ride when he does, but I wish he'd hurry up.


The fact he doesn’t imho proves it doesn’t say what he is claiming it does.

No, it simply means that the timing is not quite right.

Patience, grasshopper.
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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: JustJohnny

If you only watch/read liberal media sources (90% of U.S. media), your beliefs are understandable. They will soon be shattered, however.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 06:09 PM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny
Trump and bush have and will continue to make Obama look like a Lincoln


First I'm an Independent and frankly hate both parties, but I hate revisionist history that deifies Obama.

Senator Obama railed against the Patriot Act, but President Obama renewed it and flipped completely in favor of warrantless surveillance. Many Democrats criticized him for it. Remember that?

Then President Obama was all for NSA mass surveillance until his own party turned on him and he once again changed his tune. The NSA was never reigned in and all that really happened was some hearings that led to nothing meaningful. Remember that?

Dianne Feinstein, Mike Rogers and Peter King sided with Obama ignoring complaints from others on the Senate Intelligence Committee from her own party. Feinstein insulted the “privacy people” by making light of their wish for privacy. A Surveillance State is just fine with Feinstein.

Trump has not actually done anything of substance to the media, he just criticizes them. Obama however carried it to the extreme. He went after James Rosen under the Espionage Act for using a government contractor as a source, while at the same time the Obama White House leaked like a sieve. He even went after Rosen’s parents and seized their phone records and emails. They even seized phone records for five lines at Fox News. Trump has never done anything anywhere near that bad. Remember that?

Obama also went after the Associated Press and collected two months of their reporters personal and work related phone calls. Remember that?

The Obama Administration holds the record for denying Freedom of Information requests and yet he promised transparency. Remember that?

Another thing likely to surface in regard to Obama is his close 20 year relationship with Reverend Wright, friend of Farrakhan. A photographer even hid a photo of Senator Obama with Farrakhan taken when the Congressional Black Caucus invited him as a guest, due to a fear he would lose the election if people knew. Remember that?



Obama was not a saint or even a great President. The economy languished under his rule, privacy became a memory and he left the Democrats so radicalized, their current goal seems to be a Single Party State. He let things like race baiting and calls to shut down any non-Democrat media go, without using his Bully Pulpit to speak out against Left Wing hate.

I don't like Trump but he's done a few good things. Obama scared me.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555

Did I say Obama deserves to be viewed as Lincoln??


Nope..

I said “due to the dumpster fires that book end him. Obama will look like a Lincoln “


Because we compare presidents and pretty much every thing else relative to those closest to the source..


When people say “you know in hindsight Bush 1 was a pretty good president.. “

They do not mean “he was pretty good compared to Washington.”


They mean he was pretty good relative to contemporary presidents.


No way you just went jerimiah Wright lol...


Since when is every member of a congregation responsible for the actions of one of that churches preachers?!?!


Obviously if you buy into that BS your not even remotely as in the middle as you claim..

Or maybe you just never met a conspiracy you don’t like I guess..

That conspiracy theory is literally only pushed by far right folks..

No one “in the middle” buys that particular one..


The truth is Obama had zero credible, confirmed scandals..


Was he perfect or great??

Absolutely not..

But what Obama scandal will make the paragraph every president gets in the history books??

None...

But Bush 2 lied us into the Iraq war and gave his own personal oil company the multi gas ion dollar rebuild contract... a no bid rebuild contract... (imho this is the most corrupt act in modern political history.... nothing trump has done touches it..)


Trump has the Russia investigation and the “paid a pornstar to sleep with me while my wife was 9 months pregnant, then got caught paying her off to be silent..


Neither of those are conspiracy theories.. and those will absolutely make the paragraph every president gets.
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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

The fisa warrant was fraudulent... he could declassify it at any moment..


Strok commuted a crime.. he sure hasn’t been charged..and trump runs the DOJ...


Hillary committed a crime with the server or uranium one...

Fox debunked uranium one..
Trumps own IG said she should not have been charged...
and again... not under investigation.. no charges..

Obama spied on him illegally , exc, exc, exc... again.. no investigation...no charges...


What claim has trump made that has been confirmed by any form of legal action or anything besides “trump said so, but there was zero done about it..”




I can’t think of any..



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

So by saying 90% I’m guessing you are conceding it is rightwing media vs. everyone else??



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 08:01 PM
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a reply to: JustJohnny

Oh come on. He cozies up to Wright to get votes in Chicago. He certainly threw him under the bus without hesitation. He knew exactly what Farrakhan was when he posed for that photo with him. It was hidden until 2011 for a reason.

Anyone who would stand in a room where those two were, is not my cup of tea.

IMO, Obama will go down in history for reigniting racial divide, instead of being a leader and working for a unified country. But then Rules for Radicals say's you must do the opposite and divide the middle class. He believed what he taught.

Yes I am a Moderate, just not easily fooled. Wisdom starts with questioning everything you see on the media and what politicians tell us. That's why Independents now decide elections. The Democrats and Republicans have alienated their own followers.

Trump will go down as a useful idiot who did a lot of good while acting the fool.

The Dem's will wish that the phony Russian collusion garbage never happened as time goes on. It will haunt them in the history books.

The difficult part of being a true moderate, is that both sides think you are with the other side. Partisans can't see past their own noses and take propaganda as fact. It is possible to agree with different sides on different issues.

If we want a truly great President, the person will need to be an Independent. No partisan President could ever solve our issues. Partisans will never allow it though, they are well trained.



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 08:34 PM
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On what planet do you think “one of the 7 preachers at obama’s Church is kinda an extremist..” makes the history books lol?!?!

So is every American responsible for the actions of every preacher at their church???


That is literally a joke..



Point 2...
So is anyone who has ever, knowingly stood in a room with an extremist is.... what??

Trump not only stood in a room with Kim Jin Un but also talked him up a whole lot...



The main topic: trump will go down in history as a dumpster fire..

Who writes the history and other text books??

Academics.. scientists..exc.. right??

Every scientific, computer based and academic field is dominated by liberals..


You can say it is due to a vast conspiracy or whatever, but that is irrelevant. You would need a conservative consensus for trump to be viewed as anything but a dumpster fire...


None of the fields that require crazy schooling and intelligence are dominated by conservatives.


Silicone valley.. mainly liberals..

The scientific community.. mainly liberals

College professors... mainly liberals..



So who is writing these pro-trump text books lol?



posted on May, 14 2019 @ 08:43 PM
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I personally judge everything by 2 smell tests (2 down is really one thing imho)...


1) is the argument a known logical fallacy??

Ads hominem, slippery slope, argument from ignorance, false equivalency, exc.. and those are objectively measurable things..


2) does whatever conspiracy benefit the person who is supposed to be responsible..


3) Is it profitable to perpetuate that conspiracy.. no one is losing billions to push an agenda...


4) Is there an easier way to do it??? It’s the path of least resistance argument..

If I wanted to perpetrate whatever conspiracy, how would I do it??

Is my community college educated self’s idea far better than the one proposed??

If so I doubt it.






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posted on May, 14 2019 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

The Stark Dark Lark Ages .....



posted on May, 15 2019 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: JustJohnny

You know what your problem is? It's your inability to learn and change your opinion based on new information.




You believe the democrats are the party of the confederacy and racists

The confederacy no longer exists, so you're using the wrong tense. It's were.

I say they were because they were.

Robert E. Lee - Democrat
Thomas Fletcher - Democrat
Madison Perry - Democrat
The entire south was democrat during the civil war.

Now about the "racists"

There was the civil rights movement:
Votes against the civil rights act:
Dems - 117
Reps - 40

Then there was LBJ's famous quote:


If they're going to be allowed to vote I'll have those N****rs voting democratic for a generation.


Then of course we come to today, where racism doesn't really exist much (much like the confederacy), other than inside the heads of deranged loonies. The left tries to punish republicans for racism that doesn't exist. Obama was president for 5 what did he do for minorities? High unemployment and food stamps? Now we have the most racist republican president in history (LMAO) and what does he do, he passes the criminal justice reform bill. His economy gets record numbers of people off food stamps. His economy leads to the lowest black/hispanic unemployment rates in US history. He's so racist he was honored with mohammad ali and rosa parks with a medal for patriotism, brotherhood, tolerance and diversity.

So yeah, you are the propagandized one.



while the only people flying confederate flags and attending white supremacy rallies are card carrying conservative Republicans...


This is what I'm talking about. I explained to you why that's not a true statement at all. You never challenged my rebuttal instead you just went back to the statement as though nothing ever happened. You do this because you can't comprehend the idea that you may have been wrong. That you might have unfairly judged and condemned a large number of people.



Now before you run around screaming your head off "that wasn't an official campaign button!!!" realize that for this discussion it doesn't need to be. It's proof positive that not only conservative republicans fly the confederate flag. A large swath of southern dems did and do.
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