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California sends bill requiring presidential candidates' tax returns to governor's desk

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posted on May, 4 2019 @ 10:54 PM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Phoenix

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Edumakated



If you put party loyalty above country


Then you'll be all in on a State Legislatures making targeted election law in Presidential elections setting precedent if successful, making future national elections chaotic and useless beside disenfranchising candidates and ultimately voters choice.


If candidates are disenfranchised by having to be transparent about their financials they shouldn't be running for office in the first place.

It seems you're arguing in favor of keeping things the way they are. I think the way things are is crap. And I wouldn't feel the least bit bad if the majority of politicians and candidates were ran out of D.C. tarred and feathered and dropped off in the woods somewhere in Virginia.

We need different people, and a different standard for the leaders who are in theory supposed to be working for us.


If you think that the current process sucks so badly, then please, begin a movement to amend the United States Constitution regarding the federal presidential election rules. Otherwise, you are just whining and moaning looking to force your will upon others from the comfort of your own safe space.


BINGO! Lots of wasted words in these posts, unless the U.S. Constitution is amended.


“Allowing individual states to adopt their own qualifications for congressional service would be inconsistent with the Framers’ vision of a uniform national legislature representing the people of the United States,” Justice John Paul Stevens wrote for the majority in U.S. Term Limits Inc. v. Thornton.

“If the qualifications set forth in the text of the Constitution are to be changed, that text must be amended.”
Source: newrepublic.com...




posted on May, 4 2019 @ 10:56 PM
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I never said you should be disqualified from holding office, just that whatever you've done should be public knowledge so we can make a more informed choice.

Leave it to the voters. But be honest about who you are and what you've done so we can make our decision based on reality, not an image crafted to sell a candidate to the voters.



I'll be over here waiting on Obamas college records and everything else he sealed on his first day in office.



posted on May, 4 2019 @ 11:41 PM
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Amend the constitution? Why? It was written by white slave owners and should be ignored, just ask Harris, Booker or hirono.
They will be happy to say so.

No need to change it ignore it

Heck why have elections old white slave owners set that up too

And money that was created by old white slave Owners so you should stop getting paid, that's racists

Why do people of color speak English? Isn't that cultural appropriation? Same with cars, phones and electricity

Y'all should be sitting in the dark unless you are racist.



posted on May, 4 2019 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: LDragonFire

This country is too far to the right to ever allow states to have so much power.



Too far to the right? Not on this issue. This is constitutional.

You mean the Constitution prohibits this? The supremacy clause...Ever hear of it?



posted on May, 4 2019 @ 11:54 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
Fair enough.
But I want college admission forms and transcripts too.


Real ones or forged ones?



posted on May, 4 2019 @ 11:57 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
Fair enough.
But I want college admission forms and transcripts too.


And I want phone and email records.
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posted on May, 5 2019 @ 04:49 AM
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And once again those who scream bloody murder at the thought of requiring a free voter ID to vote are also the ones angrily crying about wanting to keep people from voting for the candidate of their choice. Why am I not surprised?

OK, California, fine... you want tax returns? Then here's how we do it! Just have the IRS set up a searchable database so every person in the US can have their tax records accessed by anyone else. No restrictions. Everyone and anyone can see what everyone and anyone made in the past 10 years and how much they paid in tax. Don't tick off your boss, people! They can get the IRS all over you by doing a 60-second Internet search. Applying for a mortgage? The bank gets to see everything. Dating? Your date knows every penny you made last year. Problem solved.

Or, you can get a Constitutional Convention together and pass an amendment requiring 10 years of public tax returns for anyone running for President. Problem solved.

What you cannot do, O King of all States, is decide that US citizens cannot run for Federal office because your itty-bitty feewings got all hurted and stuff. If you wish to go down that route, all electoral college votes form California (and any other states which follow suit) should be nullified. You want to tell everyone else who can and cannot be President? Fine. You forfeit your right to have a voice then. I am already in favor of removing California's statehood and returning them to territory status, since they seem to have this issue with being one of the United States. They have already decided to use their status to bypass Federal immigration laws, and now they want to use their status to skew the will of the people in deciding their officials. It's time to put down King California and return power to the people.

Remember, people, this is an open door to things you may not like... What if the rest of the country decided to pass a state law that prevented anyone who accepted more than 50% of their campaign donations from multinational companies from bring on their ballots? Oops... bye-bye Democrats, bye-bye most Republicans... hello anarchy!

Remove California's statehood NOW!

TheRedneck



posted on May, 5 2019 @ 06:00 AM
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As a foreigner, looking at the level of crazy of the Democrat party is mindboggeling... Do they think any capable person will get into this political climate to be elected? No sane person will step into the race, so only the morons will rule. It is just stupidity. Why should a (not even) elected official have less rights then any other citizen?
And not showing ID when you vote is insane. Any Russian can vote by just showing up in those states!

There are some nut cases at the Republican party too, but this Dem party is waaay out there. Did they forget to take their meds?



posted on May, 5 2019 @ 06:09 AM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: LDragonFire

The bill doesn't go far enough.

I want to see penis sizes of all candidates and if women? Boob shots.

I mean, if we're going to be intrusive, then why stop at earnings?

amirite?


For the love of God think that through.

Naked Nadler, naked Pelosi, naked Maxine...



pretty sure you internetwarriors all looking like young gods naked. imagine trump naked. poor melania.



posted on May, 5 2019 @ 07:34 AM
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a reply to: underwerks

I'm sorry, I cannot take what you say seriously, I have not seen your taxes, until I and others do, we cannot in good faith, agree.

We also need to see your yearbook from highschool, affidavits from all women you have interacted with, and how much you spend on alcohol/drugs.

we also have to have an open call (for a month, to be sure) for any women or man that may have been sexually harassed by you.

plus, any social media? We will need the passwords for those and we need to check all of your electronic devices for any "child porn"

Of course we will also need DNA verification of whom you are as well, just to be certain....


No problem, right?



posted on May, 5 2019 @ 08:12 AM
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originally posted by: Goedhardt


There are some nut cases at the Republican party too, but this Dem party is waaay out there. Did they forget to take their meds?


I dont think forgetting to take the meds is the problem.......I am convinced that drug abuse and alcoholism run rampant in the Halls of Congress.



posted on May, 5 2019 @ 09:03 AM
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a reply to: Goedhardt

No, not Russians, "refugees" from Mexico, Central, and South America. Any of them can simply vote just by showing up. I'm sure there are illegal Russians, Europeans, Africans, Asians and others here too, but not in statistically significant numbers to pander to.



posted on May, 5 2019 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: thedigirati

Don't forget medical records and a thorough physical and mental exam done by the medical and psychological professionals of our choosing.



posted on May, 5 2019 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Goedhardt

No, not Russians, "refugees" from Mexico, Central, and South America. Any of them can simply vote just by showing up. I'm sure there are illegal Russians, Europeans, Africans, Asians and others here too, but not in statistically significant numbers to pander to.


Well it becoming apparent that if the Dems want to fulfill their agenda and be elected, they will need to make sure to increase a majority population who does not understand English, American history, nor our laws and constitutional rights.

Edit add: to stay on topic, thus why they feel the need to circumvent the federal laws in place.

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posted on May, 5 2019 @ 10:03 AM
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a reply to: LDragonFire

On what basis do these states think they have authority to make someone turn over federal documents? Taxes from their state tax returns maybe but outta state and federal tax returns no they should not have that authority. You know if California spent half as much time trying to figure out how to stop deadly wildfires as they do trying to mess with Trump wildfires in that state might be a thing of the pass.



posted on May, 5 2019 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: seeker1963

It's astonishing how they can try everything they can think of to tilt the tables, and then be surprised and outraged when it inevitably comes back around to bite them in the ass. Every. single. time.



posted on May, 5 2019 @ 11:35 AM
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Crimony, people!, if he does not appear on the ballot, they can write him in. It worked for Murkowski. If they can't spell Trump I can't help tho



posted on May, 5 2019 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: TheBoomersRBusted
Crimony, people!, if he does not appear on the ballot, they can write him in. It worked for Murkowski. If they can't spell Trump I can't help tho


Obviously you have no clue about what you are talking. You point is irrelevant...completely irrelevant. This is a FEDERAL election, and must follow federal laws (you know, those laws that up to now California picks and chooses which ones to enforce). If they are so adamant about changing this federal process, do it honestly and using the established process in place, CONVENE A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION and amend the United States Constitution, LEGALLY.

As for Murkowski, that was a STATE election genius.




posted on May, 5 2019 @ 11:50 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa How and why can one be NOT allowed to write in a name on a Federal ballot?



posted on May, 6 2019 @ 02:10 AM
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a reply to: TheBoomersRBusted

The point is that voters marking their ballots will be confronted by one and only one name,,, the name chosen arbitrarily by the state of California. That places any other candidates in an inferior position, and is indeed reminiscent of third-world dictator elections. Imagine for one moment how you would react if North Korea announced that it was holding an election for its ruler, but the only name on the ballot would be Kim Jong Un. Or Russia held an election, but the only name on the ballot for Prime Minister was Vladimir Putin. You would not accept that election as fair, with good cause.

So why are you fine with California doing the same thing? Because you don't like one of the choices? That is the very heart and soul of tyranny, and you are supporting it whole-heartedly. It's bad enough when someone just walks in and marks the party line box, but to try and remove the opposing party for everyone? That is pure tyranny in action. If you can stop and think for long enough, you will realize that.

This is not just about taxes. What if 20 Southern states required that any Presidential candidate signed a binding document to not approve any bill legitimizing gay marriage to be on the ballot? What if Louisiana declared that any Presidential candidate must hold a press conference with David Duke to be on the ballot? Those are not strawmen arguments; both requirements would be just as relevant to someone wishing to be President as showing 10 years of tax returns.

If the states want to require that Presidential candidates are required to provide their tax returns, so be it. Declare a Constitutional Convention and amend the requirements for the office. As it stands right now, there are three, count 'em, only three requirements: the candidate must be a natural born citizen of the United States, the candidate must be 35 years of age or older, and the candidate must have been a resident of the United States for 14 years. Period. That's it. Don't like it? Change the Constitution!

Revoke California statehood NOW!

TheRedneck



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