A Message From the Future With Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Can any of you that consider that video dumb please explain why they think it is dumb?

Of course they can't.

I predict this thread will be about 5 to 6 pages of pure deflection and personal attacks on Cortez and will gain around 30 flags... But the content of the actual video will never actually be addressed.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Can't say I disagree, from the responses already it seems nothing of substance will come to fruition.

She made the video simple to understand with pictures and everything, perhaps she needed to dumb it down a little more...

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

oh wow, what a surprise, another three pages of the Extremely Rational Crew desperately grasping for absolutely any way to tear this woman down... her voice, her looks, "she did a dumb thing before so everything she does is dumb"....

i've seen this sort of behaviour before
you guys are genuinely terrified of her, aren't you?

a reply to: continuousThunder

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originally posted by: continuousThunder
oh wow, what a surprise, another three pages of the Extremely Rational Crew desperately grasping for absolutely any way to tear this woman down... her voice, her looks, "she did a dumb thing before so everything she does is dumb"....

i've seen this sort of behaviour before
you guys are genuinely terrified of her, aren't you?

If you mean in a school yard kind of infatuation way then yeah I agree, these guys are in love, they know they have no chance so they attack instead to protect their fragile egos.

It is rather strange, though she Cortez is kind of a ditz, it stems more from ignorance it seems then any other natural handicap, that a great many other seem to have. But you got to give credit that she does look like she is trying, who knows maybe as she becomes more informed about the world and this whole political game, maybe they can issue some sort of change that is not of a greatly overabundance in stupid.

I think today in this climate the only politician who gets to speak on his own lines is Trump, the rest should review and filter there say through various channels, least they look foolish. Its what writers do, politicians need to get themselves some, you know add the the growing economic job markets meager as they are already. But considering that a few years ago most speeches looked like they were written by a 5 yr olds?

In comparison, this vid by Cortez is a few levels above that, and likely reached its target audience, teens and collage kids, as they are the ones that run on pure unadulterated blind ignorance, and that does get you some steps farther then half truth and semi truth. I dont understand this fear for socialists either, in this day and age. Well even if they come for the guns, there are plenty of bullets to go around for everybody, a thousand times over, we need not be stingy of bullets when they are so plentiful, so lets quit with the kidy plots.

But then again, do they the blue team have nobody better? Is everybody so worried about keeping there jobs? And again, isn't that why Trump got the job? This politics game is strange, I forgot why it was invented to begin with, cant be just for posturing, or maybe that is exactly why it was created. Who knows, a mystery which can only be solved in hindsight because hindsight is always 20/20.

After all isn't that what the future is, but a projections of variables on an intangible linear graph, based in peoples heads, based on the sourced data available to them. That projection is so oversimplified to the point that its not missing only a few facts, but a whole #load and stinking pile of them. Is this what education has come down to, incorrect assumptions about a future based on the misinterpretations of the present? In a bid for politicians to keep there jobs catering to the new market.

Most likely, as that is what it was designed to do.

Or has it come up. Oh ya! I think it has evolved, education! Or at least from what it was, which would make it what? A semi inconclusive guess? An educated guess? Or just a wish not based in the current reality, and hence an incomplete prediction on a future that just does not exist on this axis.

Or just some dam random video based on more opinions. In which case, I don't see the red team putting up any better videos on the future. Making this one the winner by default.

a reply to: xuenchen

how many times do you reckon you can be asked for comment about the actual content in the video and respond with empty memey distraction? does it ever bother you how transparent you are?

i know, i know, i'm """triggered"" which is hilarious and exactly what you wanted and your laughter doesn't sound hollow or affected in any way. whatever you gotta do to be able to sleep.

a reply to: xuenchen

That's a nice promotion video. Thanks for sharing it. Somebody has a vision of what she wants and believes in, there is nothing wrong about that.
Politics at its finest. "This is my idea and what I stand for."
In an ideal world we would try a system that allows us to vote only for the idea and not the person.
I mean there is just no point in wasting time over that celebrity gossiping in politics. That stuff is too important.
Let's not make it a competition of who is the greatest slime bag. That's just not important, what they stand for is what matters.
And many people believe what she believes and deserve to be heard too.
Next step compromise. Not fight for your life.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Can any of you that consider that video dumb please explain why they think it is dumb?

Of course they can't.

I predict this thread will be about 5 to 6 pages of pure deflection and personal attacks on Cortez and will gain around 30 flags... But the content of the actual video will never actually be addressed.

Dawww but she so cute, I just wanna pinch her nose.

She's a dumb as a box of hammers, and about as sharp as a box of bolts.

You do realise this is entirely for the agape, mouth breathing sorts, yeah?

If you find any merit in this, the entire fiasco is lost on you.. and that's seriously a shame.. should be better than this.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Can any of you that consider that video dumb please explain why they think it is dumb?

What I am more concerned about, is how you DON'T...

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: xuenchen

Well I guess that's better than a meme...

Get back to me when you grow up...

She is a petulant child standing in a group of people making story time for things she says are true. So other like minded children will follow along with story time.

Adults stare at her, and now stare at you...

She simply is non compos mentis..

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Can any of you that consider that video dumb please explain why they think it is dumb?

Of course they can't.

I predict this thread will be about 5 to 6 pages of pure deflection and personal attacks on Cortez and will gain around 30 flags... But the content of the actual video will never actually be addressed.

I'd love to talk about the content. Like how we can pay for free everything, get a "living wage" and work if we feel like it, or not. I mean, it sounds really nice, but when I tried to do just that at home, the wife got angry at me and told me to get a job. So is that lifestyle sustainable, or should I just find a nicer wife with more money to support me?

Oh, and in 12 years, we have to solve the conundrum of burning fossil fuels. What are the plans for that? Automakers are still building gas powered cars even today. And if I'm not mistaken, the 12 year timeline has already started. Clock is ticking, please let me know when to light my hair on fire. Thanks in advance.

originally posted by: gallop

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Can any of you that consider that video dumb please explain why they think it is dumb?

What I am more concerned about, is how you DON'T...

Obviously I'm a dummy, can you please explain to my dumb ass what exactly or specifically point out the content was dumb?

a reply to: xuenchen

I wonder whether her two Degrees from Boston University are legit. What I mean is based on her act as she seems "off" as in was it her who did the homework and took the exams? Especially the take home exams. Since I was in graduate school back in 1999-2001 for my MBA, the University had software programs that would detect plagiarism, fraud and could detect trends in the students written exam essays for opinion and logic as in what you wrote and to prove it was indeed written by you. In four years and two degrees later one would retain something even after being out of college for awhile and that includes her but I see nothing in her statements relating to her educational knowledge of Economics.

On the other side of the coin if shes playing the role of a nit wit we should all be worried as that shtick in her position in Congress seems evil. She could also have multiple personalities and that would really be of concern. Sheet!

a reply to: Peeple

It's a nice well done video. I have no problem with folks having dreams and sharing them. The issue I have is when they do not register with reality. The reality is one can always work toward and even experience their dreams with dedication and baby steps. You cannot achieve it by waving magical wands and say 'Change'.

It takes time to understand logical steps and to be able to recognize whether you may have taken the wrong pathway. To accomplish one's dream, when it involves others and not just yourself, you need to seek understanding from others not demand it. Demanding always leads to discontent and disaster...thus you will sabotage your dreams from the start.

AOC is young and inexperienced. She is fresh but unrealistic about real economics and has not considered the other adverse effects of her utopian dreams.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Can any of you that consider that video dumb please explain why they think it is dumb?

Well, let's see...in broad categories...

1) She casts herself as the main character in this fantasy. The first chapter in "saving the world" was when she was elected to Congress in 2018. Steroidal-level hubris.
2) She establishes her "enemies of the people" very early on...because the good guys (the AOC Cult) must have bad guys to fight against to justify all of the human carnage to follow. It is the evil Forces of Carbon who knew "the truth", but decided to destroy the world while making themselves rich anyway.
3) The grand utopia was, in her future history, unseeable and unattainable until non-white people arrived in the "halls of power" and enacted the complete overhaul of the unjust and suicidal world created by the non-non-white people who occupied those halls previously (no mention of the fact that the largest polluters in the world are actually from people-of-colour countries). Using racism as an argument is ulgly, no matter how pretty you make the cartoons.
4) Then, wonderfully, magically, everyone fell in line...stopped what they were doing and became ant-like warriors of the environment. Oil and gas workers stopped laying pipe, and began reclaiming wetlands - and for the same pay as before (more magic!). Jobs were abundant, as everyone toiled to rebuild everything everywhere...no word of where all of the materials and goods came from, or the carbon inputs required to produce them, or by what means they all arrived so that the happy masses could construct this new world. Naivety, Cortez is thy name!
5) And, of course, all people everywhere were suddenly able to get free health care, and livable wages (whether or not they work), and affordable housing (green housing no doubt which rose - at any expense - from the raised remains of the dirty houses that sat there before AOC rode in on her white Amtrac). It is worth pointing out that, if it were even possible to retrofit or replace every structure in the United States in 12 years (which it is not) the manpower needed to do this would be so immense that people would have to be literally drafted to perform this manual labour...there could be no freedom allowed to decide to do something else, or nothing at all!
6) Not only armies of low skilled workers (forced labour, let's be honest here), but armies of engineers, architects, electricians, inspectors, carpenters, etc., etc. Training these highly skilled people takes time and resources (especially if you need hundreds of thousands of them very quickly)...so much for getting things done in 12 years. In order to try to get this all organized, you would have to break all of the component parts of it down into coordinated tasks with inflexible timeframes...you know like 3-Year Plans that the entire population must adhere to. Of course, there will be no time for discussion or dissension - we are saving the world after all - negativity or resistance will have to be dealt with severely!
7) No (or inadequate) technology, no problem! Manufacturing processes that will leave massive carbon footprints, during the so-called critical period, as large as what is hoped to be saved thereafter (so the entire exercise would be moot anyway, if AOC is to be believed), no problem! Not enough money in the entire world to do what she claims can be done, no problem (rampant inflation to follow all of the money printing that would need to take place to "fund" the fantasy).
8) The United States has a population of 325 million...so about 4% of the world's population. The U.S. GDP is about $20 trillion...so about 25% of global GDP (impressive enough). It is childish to believe that if America embarked on this crash program - while 96% of the world's population, and 75% of global economic activity, continued on more or less as it is now, that America's efforts would somehow fix the so-called Climate Change crisis. America's rivals, like China, Russia, Iran and others would be more than happy to watch the United States destroy itself while on a fool's errand.

If you need even more reasons why AOC, and this socialist propoganda cartoon she narrated, is "dumb" let me know...

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Can any of you that consider that video dumb please explain why they think it is dumb?

Honest answer.

Her video reminded me of this cartoon.

a reply to: Peeple

I wanted a pony and believed that the world would be a better place if all little girls had one for many years too.

a reply to: DBCowboy



Or the Underpants Gnomes.

Phase 1: Give government total power to do all this stuff

Phase 2: ?

Phase 3: SAVE THE WORLD!

It's that phase 2 they continually never explain and always skip over and when smart people reason out the phase 2 from the natural consequence of the proposed phase 1, they get all defensive about it and try to skip to phase 3 as though it will make all the misery and suffering of 2 justifiable.

And yet they're like a bunch of Lucys lining up that football hoping that someday, Charlie Brown will kick.