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Barr testimony before Senate Judiciary Committee

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posted on May, 3 2019 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen




The real question is did Mueller lie in the Report 😎


According to who? Is Barr suggesting that Mueller's report is full of lies?




posted on May, 3 2019 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: xuenchen




The real question is did Mueller lie in the Report 😎


According to who? Is Barr suggesting that Mueller's report is full of lies?


Where did I say Barr suggested that ?

My God 😆😆😆 no wonder "people" get things wrong more than right.

One simple sentence and we get 16 different tangents 😆



posted on May, 3 2019 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Who's asking the "real question", "Did Mueller lie in his report" except you? Or did you pull a real deflection out of your ass, just now?

The obvious fact is "Barr lied to Congress on April 1st".



posted on May, 3 2019 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: xuenchen

Who's asking the "real question", "Did Mueller lie in his report" except you? Or did you pull a real deflection out of your ass, just now?

The obvious fact is "Barr lied to Congress on April 1st".



Tangent #17 😎



posted on May, 3 2019 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Oh, Tangent #17 is when Trumpsters start calling Mueller a liar?



posted on May, 3 2019 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

You mean may 1st?

He didn't lie. The question was confusing and the answer explained it well.

Here's crist's question:



Reports have emerged recently, general, that members of the special counsel’s team are frustrated at some level with the limited information included in your March 24th letter, that it does not adequately or accurately, necessarily, portray the report’s findings. Do you know what they’re referencing with that?


There are a number of problems with this question.

First he uses present tense to describe the special counsel's frustration. I've seen no reports that they are currently frustrated. The media reports and letter underlying them are all from weeks ago (before the full release of the mueller report). After receiving the letter, barr called and talked to mueller to assuage their frustrations. Also, the entire mueller report is now out so none of this is really relevant to the present.

Second, crist asserts that the letter challenged the accuracy of the barr summary of findings. At no point in the letter to barr does that appear.

Third, the letter requested that the executive summary of the mueller report be released. Barr explains why he didn't do that.

Fourth, the barr letter accurately and and adequately reported on the findings of mueller. So to say they didn't is to lie. Barr would have to be unaware of what was not adequate or accurate in reporting exactly what mueller said in his report, that his findings were. Not only that, but when barr talked to mueller, mueller himself didn't have any actual complaints about what was released being inaccurate.



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posted on May, 3 2019 @ 10:43 PM
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You mean may 1st?


Nope. I mean April 1st.

Barr lied to Charlie Crist on April 1st when he answered "I don't know", when he did know. He knew because he had received 2 letters from Mueller and his office, discussing their concerns of inadequacies and inaccuracies in Barr's summary, as well as at least one phone call.

Barr lied on April 1st, and we found out about it on May 1st.



posted on May, 3 2019 @ 10:47 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

That's weird because he didn't go in front of congress on april 1st. The first time he went before congress, after submitting his letter to congress and the public, was april 9th.



posted on May, 3 2019 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

He is Holding his Cards Close to his Vest . You wanna Rattle Him Somehow Dems ? He won'i Fall for it . Barr None .
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posted on May, 3 2019 @ 10:53 PM
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Well sourced rumors now claim Democrats are asking some law schools to hold mock trials !! 😆



posted on May, 3 2019 @ 10:57 PM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Sookiechacha

That's weird because he didn't go in front of congress on april 1st. The first time he went before congress, after submitting his letter to congress and the public, was april 9th.


I stand corrected on the date. Barr lied to Charlie Crist on the April 9th, and we found out that he lied on May 1st.

On April 9th, Barr knew what Mueller and his teams concerns were, because he had received 2 letters from his office, and had had one phone call, discussing those concerns.

Barr lied to Congress. PERIOD!



posted on May, 3 2019 @ 11:02 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Well sourced rumors now claim Democrats are asking some law schools to hold mock trials !! 😆




Law Schools ? LOL , Better they Debate whether or Not Spam is Real Meat or Not First ........



posted on May, 3 2019 @ 11:06 PM
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Again, no he didn't

Crist's question was not relevant. First it was a letter from mueller and barr dealt directly with mueller. So when crist said mueller's team, barr was not aware of mueller's team's complaints. Just mueller's. Then there is the fact that barr had already talked to mueller and so again, the present tense was likely not applicable. Then you add in that crist misinterpreting the letter as saying that the information was inaccurate, when it never says that, and you have a firesale of a question.

Crist is either a genius or a moron. His questions were confusing and inaccurately portrayed the information they (likely) meant to convey. I'm leaning towards moron, because phrasing questions like this is how you completely screw up any chance at getting someone to perjure themselves. See, the thing about perjury is that rule #1 is: If there is an innocent way to take the answer, that must be the way the answer is taken. So by asking a confusing question, you're basically letting them off the hook for the answer.

The only way crist could be a genius is by assuming that he didn't want barr to perjure himself, but just wanted some ammo to use in public. You know, dupe the rubes that have bought russian collusion for the last two years into believing barr committed perjury, all because you ask confusing questions and therefore get confusing answers.
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posted on May, 3 2019 @ 11:11 PM
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So when crist said mueller's team, barr was not aware of mueller's team's complaints. Just mueller's.


Yes he was, that's the point. Mueller's letter offered concerns from "his office", not from him personally. Barr was completely aware of Muller and his teams assertions that his summary was inaccurate and inadequate. Thus, Barr's memo was causing public confusion.

Christ's question was clear and straight forward. Only an idiot would be confused by his question.



posted on May, 3 2019 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: xuenchen
Well sourced rumors now claim Democrats are asking some law schools to hold mock trials !! 😆




Law Schools ? LOL , Better they Debate whether or Not Spam is Real Meat or Not First ........


That debate requires a "side Barr" 👉😃👈



posted on May, 3 2019 @ 11:30 PM
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Mueller's letter offered concerns from "his office"


Doesn't matter. Barr dealt directly with mueller. But also, the mueller letter starts out with "I previously sent you a letter..."

So this letter is from mueller, the prior letter is from mueller. The phone call was with mueller.

But you've only addressed a single problem when I outlined three. It was an awful question. Much like, when did you stop beating your spouse? Barr's only mistake was to talk to these fools in good faith.

ETA:
The question could also be construed to mean, does barr know who the media's source is. In which case, barr's answer makes complete sense. He doesn't know, but he suspects that it's that they [the special counsel's office] want more information released.
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posted on May, 4 2019 @ 08:08 AM
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So this letter is from mueller, the prior letter is from mueller. The phone call was with mueller.


Really? Because Barr said this about the letter, on May 1st.

May 01, 2019 ·
AG BARR: “The letter’s a bit snitty and I think it was probably written by one of his staff people,”

Oh my god, the stoooooopid!

Crist started with some background to set the question:

Crist statement:
"Reports have emerged recently, general, that members of the special counsel’s team are frustrated at some level with the limited information included in your March 24th letter, that it does not adequately or accurately, necessarily, portray the report’s findings. "

There's nothing confusing about the statement.

Now, the actual question:

"Do you know what they’re referencing with that?"

Of course Barr knew what they were referencing, because Barr received a snitty letter, he supposed was written by a staffer, that stated their concerns. But, he didn't say that, or illuminate to Congress that he had actually called Mueller to find out exactly what was his problem. But, he didn't say that either.

He said:
AG Barr: "No. I do not"

You don't have be a lawyer, a brain surgeon or a rocket scientist to figure out that Barr lied to Crist and to Congress on that day.



posted on May, 4 2019 @ 08:36 AM
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That wasnt a lie. He wrote a summary the conclusions were Muellers. Nowhere has Mueller made the claim the summary was inaccurate. Mueller's complaint was context was lost in the summary, But that no longer mattered with the release of the report. So Barr had addressed this issue with the release of the report so when Christ asks his poorly worded question Barr can honestly say he was not aware of any current issues.



posted on May, 4 2019 @ 08:44 AM
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Nowhere has Mueller made the claim the summary was inaccurate.


Mueller's letter specifically mentioned that Barr's memo did not "accurately or adequately" embrace his office's work. In other words, it was somewhat inaccurate and inadequate in his office's opinion,



So Barr had addressed this issue with the release of the report so when Christ asks his poorly worded question Barr can honestly say he was not aware of any current issues.


If that was the case, and Barr believed that he had adequately addressed the Mueller team's concerns, why didn't he say that? Instead he lied and said he didn't know what their concerns were. Why didn't he say that he reached out to work with the Mueller team, and the final report reflected that?

Instead, he basically said he owed the Mueller team nothing. Barr thought, It was his baby now, and anyway, the letter was "snitty".


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posted on May, 4 2019 @ 09:38 AM
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I suggest you take the time to read the letter. You seem to not know what the issue Mueller had with the summary. He never claims it's inaccurate only it lacks context. Point of a summary is to remove unnecessary context anyway. Any summary will always loose context which is why teachers can tell if a student uses cliff notes. And to fix that he says it needs to be released to the public which it was. So the problem was resolved yet stupid questions are being asked about it. Here this may help you understand the context as well here is Mueller's letter.

www.cnn.com...




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