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Trump threatens to embargo Cuba .

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posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

They are helping starve the Venezuelan people.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander .




posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

Oh please.

The Cuban Regime has been starving their own people for decades. This despite Canadian and European commerce continuing to flow into and out of Cuba.

None of that commerce benefits Cubans, mind you, just the Castros and their loyalists.



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75
a reply to: Fallingdown


Cuba was the United States' 127th largest goods export market in 2015.

U.S. goods exports to Cuba in 2015 were $180 million, down 40% ($119 million) from 2014 and down 51% from 2005.

The top export categories (2-digit HS) in 2015 were: meat ($78 million), food waste, animal feed ($44 million), miscellaneous grain, seeds, fruit ($22 million), miscellaneous chemical products ($13 million), and inorganic chemicals ($9 million).

U.S. exports of agricultural products to Cuba totaled $150 million in 2015. Leading categories include: poultry ($78 million), soybean meal ($55 million), soybeans ($10 million), corn ($5 million), and dairy products ($412 thousand).


So we're going to starve them into compliance... awesome.

What happened to making America great again?


They can still trade with other nations, as always...

Hyperbole much, Bone?



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 05:52 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Bone75
a reply to: Fallingdown


Cuba was the United States' 127th largest goods export market in 2015.

U.S. goods exports to Cuba in 2015 were $180 million, down 40% ($119 million) from 2014 and down 51% from 2005.

The top export categories (2-digit HS) in 2015 were: meat ($78 million), food waste, animal feed ($44 million), miscellaneous grain, seeds, fruit ($22 million), miscellaneous chemical products ($13 million), and inorganic chemicals ($9 million).

U.S. exports of agricultural products to Cuba totaled $150 million in 2015. Leading categories include: poultry ($78 million), soybean meal ($55 million), soybeans ($10 million), corn ($5 million), and dairy products ($412 thousand).


So we're going to starve them into compliance... awesome.

What happened to making America great again?


They can still trade with other nations, as always...


Just like Venezuela?



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 05:56 PM
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The Communist regime in Cuba needs to fall !!!!




posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: Bone75

Venezuela does trade with other nations.

But no one wants to buy low-grade crude that is 3 times the market price. No one wants to invest in Venezuela because it will be confiscated by the regime, and no one CAN do business in Venezuela because of the rampant inflation the Maduro government created.

But go ahead, blame the US some more in the face of another socialist failure.



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: Bone75

They are helping starve the Venezuelan people.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander .


So Cuba stole Venezuela's geese... it all makes sense now.



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 05:58 PM
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I always laugh at the idea of the superior Cuban cigar. Such nonsense. There are a bunch of countries that make great cigars. And they're cheap and plentiful to beat it all. You could smoke Dominican cigars for the rest of your life and never get tired of them.



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Bone75

Venezuela does trade with other nations.

But no one wants to buy low-grade crude that is 3 times the market price. No one wants to invest in Venezuela because it will be confiscated by the regime, and no one CAN do business in Venezuela because of the rampant inflation the Maduro government created.

But go ahead, blame the US some more in the face of another socialist failure.


So what you're telling me is that the sanctions still in place against Venezuela are basically pointless overkill because no one wants their oil anyway?

Are you aware that we still import around 15 million barrels of that overpriced crap crude a month?

www.eia.gov...

Weird huh?


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posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 06:13 PM
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No. The situation with regard to sanctions can't be boiled down to simplistic arguments.



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 06:24 PM
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Remember when Hillary was supposed to start armed conflicts and WW3 and all that jazz? Starting to look like Trump is burning more bridges then building them.

Sorry to say, Trump is loosing grip of the world stage. His business tactics can only go so far.



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Bone75

No. The situation with regard to sanctions can't be boiled down to simplistic arguments.


Okay then, let's hear your complex argument as to what purpose the sanctions serve.



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 07:01 PM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Trueman
Pretty obvious, Cuba supports Maduro. It's a good reason.

Yes.
But would he flee there to just live out his days, or would he broker a deal with Cuba to return with some help.


Makes no difference. Regardless Maduro, Castro needs to face justice too.



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 07:03 PM
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"Go big or go home."


Looks like Trump is going big.




posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 07:06 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
"Go big or go home."
Looks like Trump is going big.


Wonder who's next in the list. Canada needs that guy out too, you know....



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 07:11 PM
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Personally?

I think we need to build a wall.

A wall 100 feet high with machine guns and land mines all around it.

No doors at all.


And put that mother####ing wall around DC!



posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 07:32 PM
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I have no idea what happened
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posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 07:32 PM
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posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 07:33 PM
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posted on Apr, 30 2019 @ 07:33 PM
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I could find better sources than wiki. But I know these are accurate. Castro was involved with Venezuela until he turned power over to Raul who continued the relationship .

Which lead us to the crisis where we are now.

I know a couple people from Venezuela the protest against food shortages have been going on since 2013 and at times involved live fire .

Are you saying you’re more concerned about the citizens of Cuba then the citizens of Venezuela ?

I’m worried about both myself. But less so with the oppressors in power .


In 1999, Chávez visited Havana and stated at the University of Havana (UH), "Venezuela is traveling towards the same sea as the Cuban people, a sea of happiness and of real social justice and peace".[15] He called Castro "brother" and said


^^^^^^^^ correct me if I’m wrong but that didn’t work out very well .


Following the 2002 Venezuelan coup d'état attempt, Chávez grew closer to Cuba in order to gain their assistance so he could hold on to power.[16] Chávez could no longer trust his own personnel in his "situation room" and brought in the G2, Cuban intelligence.[8] One Chávez aide stated that "I saw their strategy: seal Chávez off from public, manipulate him, nourish his insecurity, find evidence of assassination plots, of betrayals. Make him paranoid."[8] Venezuela would trade tens of thousands of barrels of oil for military personnel and intelligence from Cuba while Chávez also received assistance with social programs in order to maintain voter loyalty.[16]


That’s a textbook example on how to set up a puppet government .

en.wikipedia.org...



Speaking at a briefing at the Capitol, Sen. Bob Menendez, D-N.J., said Venezuela President Nicolás Maduro has consolidated power, corrupted the courts and removed checks on his executive authority [/b[while silencing political opposition. He has “condemned his own people to poverty, starvation and immense suffering,” while amassing wealth and power, Menendez said.


That is what is known as totalitarian rule .

www.bbc.com...

So should we just close our eyes and hope it goes away ?

One things for sure sanctions, embargoes and maybe even a blockaded are better than military involvement .




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