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Military Coup underway in Venezuela

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posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Yes, THEY should revolt. If the military kills civilians I can see the US ending the pro Maduro faction, then leave and give the country to Venezuelans, let them decide.




posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:20 PM
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Well,He is back at his dictorial ways, www.rt.com...



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:22 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Yes, THEY should revolt. If the military kills civilians I can see the US ending the pro Maduro faction, then leave and give the country to Venezuelans, let them decide.


No, the international community should do the above.

We're not good at it, we waste money, and make things worse.



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: Jobeycool

To be fair he was under house arrest before.



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: Jobeycool This time they want to only arrest Leopoldo Lopez,,,,This lunatic Maduro does not know when to stop.



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:26 PM
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Lol I replied to myself



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

What international community?
I believe the US could do it, if Guaido would be pleading for a law enforcement team.
The argument is quite simple:
The people of Venezuela are starving. Even if Maduro would be loved by half of the population he has proven he is doing a crappy job. He has been kicked out. He refuses to leave.
He has to leave the office.
There should be a vote, where he of course can run for office. But the opposition too. As soon as possible so the opposition candidate would probably be Guaido.
And the soldiers swear loyalty to the will of the people.
Can be done in a week.
Venezuela will endure another week without leadership.

I feel like I should write Guaido, what I said.



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
Yes, THEY should revolt. If the military kills civilians I can see the US ending the pro Maduro faction, then leave and give the country to Venezuelans, let them decide.

I agree the Venezuelan people should decide what they want, but other countries should never intervene. Also, the problem with "ending the Maduro faction" is that that faction represents a large part of the population, large enough to make it very hard to just "end it", as that will create a bigger division among the population.

What they need is someone that truly wants the best for the country, someone that will make a real plan of how to get things working again, someone ready to appear, sort things out and get out of the political scene if he/she sees it as the best thing to do. They do not need more divisions, they need unity, they need someone that shows them that they all can have a better life if they stop pulling each one for his side.



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: ArMaP




I agree the Venezuelan people should decide what they want, but other countries should never intervene.


What if they're pleading for intervention?



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: Thecakeisalie

CIA my butt... People are being murdered and are starving in Venezuela. The real culprit is socialism/communism and not some deranged claim that "the CIA has fingers everywhere..."

I guess it wasn't the communist Chinese who murdered millions of their own people, and also murdered untold numbers who would not accept communism in Tibet...

I guess the CIA FORCED communist China to invade Vietnam so that the the U.S. would get involved...

I guess the CIA FORCED Hitler to use socialism to murder millions of people...

I guess the CIA FORCED the communists in North Korea to murder and oppress their own people...

I guess the CIA FORCED the murderers Che Guevara, the castro brothers etc to murder untold numbers of Cubans who would not accept first socialism, and then communism, and since then the CIA FORCED the communists in Cuba to put in prison anyone who dares not be "socialist/communist..."

I guess the CIA is FORCING the socialists/communists in Venezuela murder thousands of protesters each year, and they are being forced to imprison students who peacefully protested against the Chavez/Maduro regime...

Some people are really messed up in the head meanwhile you all ignore your own comrades in the U.S. who are using the same tactics socialists/communists use under far left-wing regimes...



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: TheSteppenwolf
a reply to: ArMaP




I agree the Venezuelan people should decide what they want, but other countries should never intervene.



What if they're pleading for intervention?


When the last time we did and it was a net positive?



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Nobody said you shouldn't try out new tactics.



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: DreamerOracle

Yeah, let's believe the dictators who took down all independent news channels, and all radio stations in Venezuela, or took control of them... Let's believe the lies the state controlled Telesur claims meanwhile millions of Venezuelans have had to leave because of socialism... Let's believe the left-wing regime that armed "Chavistas" and disarmed the rest of the population meanwhile allowing Chavistas to murder innocent people whose only crime is "not wanting to live under a socialist regime..."



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 04:54 PM
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originally posted by: ArMaP
Then why their inaction?


Because they are not the only ones there and I am guessing the majority of the military is disarmed. Maduro would only arm, and use the most loyal people to him in the military. Remember that there are 25,000 Cuban communists ARMED in Venezuela, and Venezuela has the help of Russia, China, and other countries. Not to mention the heavy presence of terrorist groups like Hezbollah, who are also socialists, and would be helping Maduro because Maduro is helping terrorist groups as well.

The first thing the castro brothers did in Cuba was to disarm all the populace and disarm soldiers and police officers who would not be loyal to fidel. The tactics that the Cuban communists learned, and used in Cuba have been taught to Chavez/Maduro and their regime. Those same tactics are being applied in Venezuela.



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posted on May, 2 2019 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: ArMaP

You want to know what gives up the fact that Maduro has disarmed most of his own military? He had to arm Chavistas/civilians who are socialist or communists and have been loyal to the regime.

Socialist Venezuelan Leader Steps Up Arming of Supporters After Outlawing, Confiscating Civilian Guns
Maduro plans to arm 400,000 supporters amid protests and unrest


Maduro has to be careful on whom he arms because there have also been Chavistas who have turned against him.

Key Chavistas Abandon Maduro as Crisis Intensifies

It is part of the reason why there are 25,000 armed Cuban military personnel in Venezuela.

Also.

Venezuela crushes 2,000 guns in public, plans registry of bullets

I have noticed that in Spanish there are way more news sources, and videos that describe what has been happening in Venezuela. When I use any search engine, and search in English it is a lot harder to find information about the situation in Venezuela, and there is a lot of news that are not being reported in English, or at least they are hard to find.

In socialist/communist regimes the majority of people are disarmed so that people can't defend themselves, or can't try to oust the socialist/communist dictators by ways of arms.



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posted on May, 2 2019 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
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What you're trying to do is seeking ways to conform the truth to benefit your world view.


I am not the one "seeking ways to conform the truth to benefit your world view..." Ironic since it is you, and your loyal band of socialist/communist ATS members, who are denying the facts... It sucks to learn the fantasy world you all made up about "socialism and communism" is not true doesn't it?...


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posted on May, 2 2019 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse


Ironic since it is you, and your loyal band of socialist/communist ATS members, who are denying the facts... It sucks to learn the fantasy world you all made up about "socialism and communism" is not true isn't it?...


Lulz.

What a stretch.



posted on May, 2 2019 @ 05:40 PM
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You know what I find very ironic? Since for the left Hitler was "right-wing" it was okay that the U.S. intervened and helped destroy that a$$hole... But when it comes to regimes the left admits are "socialist/communist," the left always claims "the U.S. and the world shouldn't intervene, even when thousands of innocent people are being murdered by such regimes each year, and untold horrors are being committed against the majority of the people..."

I don't like war, but like it was necessary to destroy the "national socialists," it comes a time when it is also necessary to destroy other socialist/communist regimes...


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posted on May, 2 2019 @ 05:46 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I don't like intervention under any circumstance other than us being attacked.

You know what I find ironic? People picking and choosing who to save.

Venezuela is small potatoes compared to what's going on in other countries, some of whom we're causing the turmoil or helping it.
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posted on May, 2 2019 @ 06:02 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

The only reason people like you don't want to "intervene" in any way is because you are as much a socialist, or even communist, as those loyal people to Maduro and his criminal regime.



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