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originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: TinySickTears
I hardly take anything on here as gospel truth, hell I don’t even take the gospel as truth. I can usually tell when someone is being sincere or not though, regardless if they are wrong or right about something.
Im just curious what would motivate someone to make up a bunch of lies over such a sensitive issue. Especially when I’ve heard many similar accounts from others, so we can rule out isolated nut job at least.
Like I said previously further studies need to be done as it appears nobody actually knows what is the exact cause of the issues yet.
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Onlyyouknow
Im sixty two years old and i have never met a child with autism..... isnt it amazing how many on this website have...
AND..... and... every case is also caused by a vaccine. That is even more amazing.
How many cases of autism occurred in the last big segment of society that was vaccinated for everything? There should be thousands of baby boomers with autism. There are millions of us who were vaccinated in the fifties and sixties. Where are all those cases of autism? Why is it only contemporary vaccines that supposedly cause autism? Where was this concern in the past fifty years? Nowhere that's where.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Onlyyouknow
Im sixty two years old and i have never met a child with autism..... isnt it amazing how many on this website have...
AND..... and... every case is also caused by a vaccine. That is even more amazing.
How many cases of autism occurred in the last big segment of society that was vaccinated for everything? There should be thousands of baby boomers with autism. There are millions of us who were vaccinated in the fifties and sixties. Where are all those cases of autism? Why is it only contemporary vaccines that supposedly cause autism? Where was this concern in the past fifty years? Nowhere that's where.
i just said the same thing
41 years and i have never seen it
im supposed to believe this ex nurse that knew a normal kid and then immediately after the vaccine that same kid just came down with the tism?
yeah i dont believe that.
lots of junior scientists here.
lots of people that claim to know the deal.
i think they dont.
this whole anti vaxx argument is weak sauce.
originally posted by: paraphi
The worrying thing is that measles is recurring in the developed world in high numbers (relatively), due to ignorance and apathy around vaccinations.
Ignorance is often based on the myths and pseudo-science peddled by charlatans and quacks. Apathy is often based around poor parenting behaviours and hiding behind herd immunity.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
originally posted by: Onlyyouknow
I also know parents that have children that developed autism just after the MMR vaccine. A perfectly normal interactive child that was happy and playing with others; then immediately after vaccine sitting in a corner wanting nothing to do with anyone and agitated. Never the same child again.
yeah i dont believe you
just saying
just like you apparently know some kid that got the tism like right away...
every person i have ever known that has been vaccinated is fine.
ever parent that chose to have their kids vaccinated made the right choice. their kids are fine
i cant believe it is even an argument or a discussion anymore about getting kids vaccinated.
so friggin lame
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Gothmog
yup
RN just like the person that saw a kid get the tism before their very eyes
hahahahh
originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: TinySickTears
So as an RN are allergies real or not? I mean just because most people aren’t allergic to nuts, does that mean that they aren’t dangerous for those that are?
It could be a similar situation with certain vaccines, consider that before you dismiss it so readily.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
originally posted by: Onlyyouknow
I also know parents that have children that developed autism just after the MMR vaccine. A perfectly normal interactive child that was happy and playing with others; then immediately after vaccine sitting in a corner wanting nothing to do with anyone and agitated. Never the same child again.
yeah i dont believe you
just saying
just like you apparently know some kid that got the tism like right away...
every person i have ever known that has been vaccinated is fine.
ever parent that chose to have their kids vaccinated made the right choice. their kids are fine
i cant believe it is even an argument or a discussion anymore about getting kids vaccinated.
so friggin lame
originally posted by: TinySickTears
originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: TinySickTears
So as an RN are allergies real or not? I mean just because most people aren’t allergic to nuts, does that mean that they aren’t dangerous for those that are?
It could be a similar situation with certain vaccines, consider that before you dismiss it so readily.
it definitely could be
sure
i just dont think it is
coincidence that so many on this so called conspiracy board know someone that got messed up from the big bad vaccine?
cause i have never met a single person ever that makes that claim.
could happen. sure
but im going with the vaccines for the win
good luck with the measles everyone
originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: Sillyolme
I hope you're not suggesting that because Silly Old You has never met anyone with autism, it means that autism is fake.
As a teacher, Ive been getting students with autism starting about ten years ago, and the kids with it were in their early to mid-teens. Out of between 40-50 students each year, the most I've ever had with autism at a time is 3. Usually I'll have one or two with it, any given year for the past 5 years.
As for you never meeting anyone with autism, you probably have many times; it's just that in your day they didn't know what it was and those were the weird or "touched" people.
originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: rickymouse
To be clear, I do think there is more autism these days, actual autism. But I also think this:
Autism has become a bit like the "ADD" and then the "ADHD" of the 2000's. Meaning that doctors will diagnose it without really doing the work to accurately diagnosise it, or doctors will diagnose it because a mom will come in telling him that she has researched it and her kid definitely has autism. He doesn't want to deal with that mom so he just gives in.
When the issue MAY be "the tism" as TST says, but many times it's actually parenting issues.
Just like with ADD.
I hear parents say "my son is on the spectrum" like it's trendy.
Ignorance is often based on the myths and pseudo-science peddled by charlatans and quacks. Apathy is often based around poor parenting behaviors and hiding behind herd immunity.