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NBC caught using edited baby picture to push measles vaccination agenda.

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posted on Apr, 27 2019 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

You're repeating yourself.
You're repeating yourself.




posted on Apr, 27 2019 @ 07:58 PM
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Hey OP, I hear what you're saying....What kind of a moron would use fake imagery and misrepresented facts?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You're a propagandist. And a bad one at that.



posted on Apr, 27 2019 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Krakatoa

You're repeating yourself.
You're repeating yourself.


Oh, you are such a funny git. Double post time. Like you've never done that. That is also a case of acting like a D-bag. I would have expected more from you in the past, when you actually had a bit of respect around here.


Sad times.




posted on Apr, 27 2019 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

I've never seen a double post glitch with a reply in between or separated by an hour.
But please accept my apology.

edit on 4/27/2019 by Phage because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Krakatoa

I've never seen a double post glitch with a reply in between or separated by an hour.
But please accept my apology.


My laptop froze....and when it came back I noticed the double post. SO, I updated it to have actual content. No biggie.



posted on Apr, 27 2019 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

Get a real computer.
But at least you aren't using a cell phone.



posted on Apr, 27 2019 @ 09:52 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea




Having said that, however, I am quite happy that I have had the measles -- as have my kids -- and I therefore KNOW that I will never contract the measles (again). Unlike the "benefits" of vaccination and herd immunity.


Your happy you contracted measles because then you can never catch it again . Got it . Those poor people getting vaccinations and never contracting measles . Worst anti vax statement ever .



posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 06:07 AM
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a reply to: hutch622


Your happy you contracted measles because then you can never catch it again . Got it . Those poor people getting vaccinations and never contracting measles . Worst anti vax statement ever .


Yup. I now have genuine immunity. The real thing. And I don't have to depend on anyone else to ensure my lifelong immunity. Doesn't make me anti-vax; just means I never ever have to worry about getting measles again. No worry about vaccines failing or wearing off... no worry about getting boosters... no worry about measles at all. Most of all, I'm glad I don't have to make any decisions about vaccinations -- not measles or anything else.

Having said that, I'm not all freaked out over measles anyway. The vast majority of those who contract measles do not suffer any adverse outcomes at all -- especially in the first world! It's no worse than getting a cold or flu, and the fearmongering is ridiculous. As those who have been there and done that know from experience.




posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 08:46 AM
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Meanwhile, selective abortion kills how many? Oh that's right, fetuses are just parasites.



originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: gladtobehere

I'm kind of baffled as to the point of this? Stock images are used to illustrate articles all the time. It's not an image being used as evidence of anything, it's just used as an illustration. Do you think the use of an altered stock photo to illustrate a topic proves something? Anything?

Not enough people being vacinated made the "Ten Threats to Global Health.." list.

Vaccine hesitancy – the reluctance or refusal to vaccinate despite the availability of vaccines – threatens to reverse progress made in tackling vaccine-preventable diseases. Vaccination is one of the most cost-effective ways of avoiding disease – it currently prevents 2-3 million deaths a year, and a further 1.5 million could be avoided if global coverage of vaccinations improved.


John's Hopkins

Measles is a highly contagious viral infection — one of the most contagious of all known infections. Nine out of 10 unimmunized children who are in contact with an infected person will contract the virus.

When complications do occur, they can include ear infections, pneumonia, and encephalitis or inflammation of the brain that can lead to permanent neurologic damage and even death. On average, measles kills between one and three of every 1,000 infected children.





posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Tartuffe

There isn't a measles outbreak?
Trump fell for it?


I am sure the media can find some with them then.


I know of no one I have seen or heard about here where I live. Anybody have 1st hand knowledge of this. It could be fake news but probably not. It would be nice to not HAVE to doubt every single word the press tell us these days.

The same fear I have for science being ruined by the BS and fake claims about warming and CO2, I have for Journalism. That would be thanks to MSNBC's and other liars in the press' BS!

Going to be hard to put things back into Pandora's box the media opened.



posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Krakatoa

I was joking.

That said, you're saying people are thinking like d-bags and asking people to have civil discussion with you. 🤔


Yes, thinking that lying to push a narrative is just AOK, is exactly thinking like a D-bag. It is up to each person to ask themselves, is that how I think? If so, perhaps I am thinking like a D-bag?

Sometimes, a d-bag is just a d-bag.


The only obvious reason to lie seems to be for agenda's. Why not just go to a walk in clinic and take pictures of people suffering with it? How hard could that be?



posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: Somethingsamiss
a reply to: gladtobehere
I really can’t believe that people are still so against vaccination. But I guess you will always have those weak minded individuals who jump on the latest controversial bandwagon.



My children and I get them but that doesn't mean I think they are totally safe either. I have had a friend lose their child do to a reaction to the MMR shot on the DAY OF the shot. So, I can tell you a wise person doesn't ignore all the facts and highlight the ones that make them right as the answer here. Wise people soak in all the data and have to take things like agenda's into the equation these days.

So, I take certain ones but the Flu shot I will never take again. Every time the Army gave me one of those I got sick and had a fever. I never had it before or after my service. I had the measles and the Mumps after the MMR shot so I don't know how good it was to take the MMR and get it two of them anyway.



posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Phage

Don't go asking anti-vaxxers for evidence.

The most we can hope for is that these people will weed themselves out without too much collateral damage.


The answers are somewhere between you and the all in on being Anti vaccines crowd IMO.
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posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: Justoneman

No it isn't.

There are right and wrong answers.

The OP is all wrong answers. And a hypocrite as well, as I have shown.
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posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Justoneman

No it isn't.

There are right and wrong answers.

The OP is all wrong answers. And a hypocrite as well, as I have shown.



Oh so blind faith is your option. Facts are my only friend here and I don't ignore some to make me think something that may not be true appear true. Carry on if you wish to be not thinking about all aspects of the data.

My scientific approach says some of these shots have to be good, like Polio. But I have seen 1st hand, issue that cause death with shots for SOME people. Does that mean antivaccers are right? Maybe and there is where the rubber hits the road.
We can all see the Fizer types get a lot of freedom to play around with things and have some major Congressional supporters who are bought and paid.


But that is not my point. Data is my point of interest here. Debate the data. While I am not happy about the foolhardiness of accepting the vaccine without question, on a scientific reason, I do see the need to take at least some of them.



posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: Justoneman




Oh so blind faith is your option.


How the hell is reading a paper on the efficacy and safety of vaccines blind faith? That's what I've been preaching here.



Facts are my only friend here and I don't ignore some to make me think something that may not be true appear true.


What facts am I ignoring? Propaganda does not a fact make. I thought we learned this already with the current political climate. I guess not.




Data is my point of interest here. Debate the data.


What data have you presented? What peer review study on the safety of vaccines have you shown to back up your opinions? I've yet to see the OP or you post any, maybe they're invisible and can only be seen by the vaccine injured?




on a scientific reason, I do see the need to take at least some of them.


So you equate scientific reasoning (which is based on evidence from studies and trials) to being not much more than blind faith, but seem to think that this can be reasonably applied to only SOME vaccines.

This is incomplete logic.

Fix it.



posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Justoneman




Oh so blind faith is your option.


How the hell is reading a paper on the efficacy and safety of vaccines blind faith? That's what I've been preaching here.



Facts are my only friend here and I don't ignore some to make me think something that may not be true appear true.


What facts am I ignoring? Propaganda does not a fact make. I thought we learned this already with the current political climate. I guess not.




Data is my point of interest here. Debate the data.


What data have you presented? What peer review study on the safety of vaccines have you shown to back up your opinions? I've yet to see the OP or you post any, maybe they're invisible and can only be seen by the vaccine injured?




on a scientific reason, I do see the need to take at least some of them.


So you equate scientific reasoning (which is based on evidence from studies and trials) to being not much more than blind faith, but seem to think that this can be reasonably applied to only SOME vaccines.

This is incomplete logic.

Fix it.


I don't think you are willing to see the logic based on that answer.
I trust good data but I am not sure how to trust it IS GOOD. Does that make more sense?

Blind faith in Science is not what I do. I challenge theories and verify facts whenever possible I make a conclusion. I make my living in that field and I think facts are my friend. You are willingly ignoring some fact to allow yourself the moral high ground in your estimation to call those anti-vaccine people idiots.

I will reiterate that these vaccines have some good but not everyone of them is perfect, if any. And a lying Media has ruined my faith in data I can't touch.

I, as a Scientist, am not naive enough to think I can trust the Pharmaceutical Companies totally. Do you believe they are without flaws? Look before you leap is something I recall being smartly advised to me.



posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: Justoneman

I work in the biotech industry these days, however not in vaccines. I'm currently employed by a phase 3 startup that is publicly traded.

We're in the process of developing and testing drugs and delivery systems for those drugs and are conducting human trials for various applications for our technology and our drugs. I understand the process.

Look into a company called Novavax. They are a vaccine development company (if you could even call them that) who are plagued by process errors, poor management, and atrocious research practices that have lead to continual failures in their development of ResVax.

If everyone had blind faith in science this company wouldn't have failed. They'd have sold their ineffective vaccine to the unsuspecting and/or gullible public. Basically, they'd operate like the homeopathy industry.

The system worked. We've eradicated entire diseases the world over with vaccines.

I'll put their track record of success vs. failure (and how they are REALLY treated by the market) up against your needlessly suspicious and unscientific characterizations any day.
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posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

You make reasonable points.

I am concerned about some of data I have seen and I applaud your sincere concern and interest. I feel we should temper our enthusiasm for high expectations some would pump us up concerning things we inject in our bodies. Thanks for providing an anecdote concerning Novavax. Sources of material deemed safe should be vetted, perhaps even better than we do. Gov oversight after a lobbyist has made the rounds gets sketchy sometimes.



posted on Apr, 28 2019 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: Justoneman

There are many dangers in our world. Vaccines prevent some of them, but not all of them. Right now they are the best tool we have to prevent serious disease.

Will there be better therapies and preventative treatments? Of course, but this is what we have for now. Nothing is 100% risk free. But we do know what the alternative is.




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