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originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Tartuffe
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ScepticScot
They want to stop brexit.
Why ? Do they not respect democracy ? The will of the people. Or only when it goes the way THEY want it to.
And you ask me why i am confused.
If the majority people want to stay now do you think we should still leave?
When the majority voted in 2016 to leave, do you think we should now stay ?
You didn't answer the question.
It's 2019 now, if the majority want to stay should we still leave?
I will answer it this way.
Do you think the result of the 2016 Referendum should be declared null and void and tossed into the waste paper bin?
That's a question not an answer.
I think that the only democratic way change the result of a referendum is another referendum.
Are you willing to answer my question now?
But it’s not democratic to change the result of a referendum. The democratic way is to leave the EU, then if you want to join the EU at a later date, have another referendum.
Why should we leave if the majority no longer want to?
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: ScepticScot
Why should we leave if the majority no longer want to?
What makes you so sure that the majority no longer want to leave?
Nigel Farrage's new brexit party has shot past all the other parties
so it would seem obvious that the people still want to LEAVE
So the UK voted to Exit the European Union, they should honor that vote and exit. They can have a revote AFTER the first vote is honored. THAT"S how democracy works, you don't keep re-voting hoping to change the results before honoring the results of the first vote
originally posted by: Tartuffe
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Tartuffe
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ScepticScot
They want to stop brexit.
Why ? Do they not respect democracy ? The will of the people. Or only when it goes the way THEY want it to.
And you ask me why i am confused.
If the majority people want to stay now do you think we should still leave?
When the majority voted in 2016 to leave, do you think we should now stay ?
You didn't answer the question.
It's 2019 now, if the majority want to stay should we still leave?
I will answer it this way.
Do you think the result of the 2016 Referendum should be declared null and void and tossed into the waste paper bin?
That's a question not an answer.
I think that the only democratic way change the result of a referendum is another referendum.
Are you willing to answer my question now?
But it’s not democratic to change the result of a referendum. The democratic way is to leave the EU, then if you want to join the EU at a later date, have another referendum.
Why should we leave if the majority no longer want to?
The majority wanted to, as determined by the vote.
originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: IAMTAT
originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: IAMTAT
If only the Brits could think of some historical example, whereby a country fought for (and won) it's independence and freedom from an empire trying to control it's economic and governmental decisions.
You mean having to ally ourselves with the French because we wouldn't be strong enough to achieve such a task on our own - that's a historical example from somewhere I'm sure.
Allies are always helpful.
What's your point?
Simple really, Brexit is supposed to be about the UK standing on its own, not having to rely on another country to get it done.
But then your analogy was a typically weak one in the first place, so not sure what point you thought you were making.
You would be incorrect...
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: ScepticScot
Why should we leave if the majority no longer want to?
What makes you so sure that the majority no longer want to leave?
Nigel Farrage's new brexit party has shot past all the other parties
so it would seem obvious that the people still want to LEAVE
I don't know that's why we need another referendum.
What % are brexit party getting in polls. Pretty sure its not a majority.
originally posted by: RUokayHun
You would be incorrect...
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: ScepticScot
Why should we leave if the majority no longer want to?
What makes you so sure that the majority no longer want to leave?
Nigel Farrage's new brexit party has shot past all the other parties
so it would seem obvious that the people still want to LEAVE
I don't know that's why we need another referendum.
What % are brexit party getting in polls. Pretty sure its not a majority.
Farage in pole position for European Parliament elections
Irish Times reporting yougov poll
originally posted by: IAMTAT
originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: IAMTAT
originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: IAMTAT
If only the Brits could think of some historical example, whereby a country fought for (and won) it's independence and freedom from an empire trying to control it's economic and governmental decisions.
You mean having to ally ourselves with the French because we wouldn't be strong enough to achieve such a task on our own - that's a historical example from somewhere I'm sure.
Allies are always helpful.
What's your point?
Simple really, Brexit is supposed to be about the UK standing on its own, not having to rely on another country to get it done.
But then your analogy was a typically weak one in the first place, so not sure what point you thought you were making.
Then your bringing up the topic of allies remains predictably irrelevant.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Tartuffe
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Tartuffe
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ScepticScot
They want to stop brexit.
Why ? Do they not respect democracy ? The will of the people. Or only when it goes the way THEY want it to.
And you ask me why i am confused.
If the majority people want to stay now do you think we should still leave?
When the majority voted in 2016 to leave, do you think we should now stay ?
You didn't answer the question.
It's 2019 now, if the majority want to stay should we still leave?
I will answer it this way.
Do you think the result of the 2016 Referendum should be declared null and void and tossed into the waste paper bin?
That's a question not an answer.
I think that the only democratic way change the result of a referendum is another referendum.
Are you willing to answer my question now?
But it’s not democratic to change the result of a referendum. The democratic way is to leave the EU, then if you want to join the EU at a later date, have another referendum.
Why should we leave if the majority no longer want to?
The majority wanted to, as determined by the vote.
3 years ago. Do you think we should leave even if majority now want to stay?
originally posted by: Tartuffe
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Tartuffe
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Tartuffe
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: ScepticScot
They want to stop brexit.
Why ? Do they not respect democracy ? The will of the people. Or only when it goes the way THEY want it to.
And you ask me why i am confused.
If the majority people want to stay now do you think we should still leave?
When the majority voted in 2016 to leave, do you think we should now stay ?
You didn't answer the question.
It's 2019 now, if the majority want to stay should we still leave?
I will answer it this way.
Do you think the result of the 2016 Referendum should be declared null and void and tossed into the waste paper bin?
That's a question not an answer.
I think that the only democratic way change the result of a referendum is another referendum.
Are you willing to answer my question now?
But it’s not democratic to change the result of a referendum. The democratic way is to leave the EU, then if you want to join the EU at a later date, have another referendum.
Why should we leave if the majority no longer want to?
The majority wanted to, as determined by the vote.
3 years ago. Do you think we should leave even if majority now want to stay?
How do you know the majority want to stay? The vote said otherwise.
originally posted by: eletheia
originally posted by: ScepticScot
Why should we leave if the majority no longer want to?
What makes you so sure that the majority no longer want to leave?
Nigel Farrage's new brexit party has shot past all the other parties
so it would seem obvious that the people still want to LEAVE
originally posted by: RUokayHun
a reply to: ScepticScot
Largest support then, didn't read it right, apologies, but with votes for UKIP and Tories as well it could be the case that the majority of votes are for pro brexit parties. If so next month then I'd say that settles the issue.
originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: IAMTAT
originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: IAMTAT
originally posted by: uncommitted
originally posted by: IAMTAT
If only the Brits could think of some historical example, whereby a country fought for (and won) it's independence and freedom from an empire trying to control it's economic and governmental decisions.
You mean having to ally ourselves with the French because we wouldn't be strong enough to achieve such a task on our own - that's a historical example from somewhere I'm sure.
Allies are always helpful.
What's your point?
Simple really, Brexit is supposed to be about the UK standing on its own, not having to rely on another country to get it done.
But then your analogy was a typically weak one in the first place, so not sure what point you thought you were making.
Then your bringing up the topic of allies remains predictably irrelevant.
I sometimes really write meaningless responses on ATS too, thankfully 9 times out of 10 I stop before I press the reply button - it's a gift.
I think that the only democratic way change the result of a referendum is another referendum
Honour the decision of the first referendum and then we can talk, otherwise referenda are meaningless.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: RUokayHun
a reply to: ScepticScot
Largest support then, didn't read it right, apologies, but with votes for UKIP and Tories as well it could be the case that the majority of votes are for pro brexit parties. If so next month then I'd say that settles the issue.
Why not have a referendum and settle it properly then.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
I think you might be slightly confused about how democracy works.
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: alldaylong
You had a vote.
You don't get a "re-do" just because you don't like the results.
SMH
Just leave already!