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Border militia group were training to assassinate Soros, Clinton and Obama

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posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

Lmao, youre a joke.

Have a safe trip back to Crazyland.




posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BlackJackal

So you're accusing Trump of having magical powers that make people want to kill other people.



In other words, "So some people did something".


No, I'm accusing Trump of manufacturing false outrage that could possibly get someone killed. If Obama or Clinton was routinely telling blatant lies from the office of the president about Republicans I bet you would care then.


Obama and Clinton did tell lies daily.

How is he (Trump) manufacturing fake outrage?

that makes no sense.



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:26 PM
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originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
a reply to: BlackJackal

I wanted examples of things that actually affect the country. For example, when Obama lied and told me I could keep my doctor and prices for healthcare would go down, just to get support for his plan.

Things like that


Move that goalpost.

Everything I listed actually affected this country. It causes morons to feel like they are being victimized by their fellow Americans and do something stupid like mailing bombs or training a militia to assassinate political leaders. Obama lying about a law is so far down of that totem pole.

But if you want an example of Trump lying about a law he passed how about this one. Remember when right before the mid terms Trump promised a middle class tax break? Yeah, where is that?


Let’s be clear: President Donald Trump is saying he has a plan for a middle-class tax cut, but there is no such plan. He is just making it up. And there is not going to be any such plan, either, however much congressional Republicans may be spending this week pretending to get on board with the president’s idea.


www.vox.com...





posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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The truth is that the centrist Democratic Party is dead. The new Democrats are radical socialists who want to model America’s economy after Venezuela. If Democrats win control of Congress this November, we will come dangerously closer to socialism in America. Government-run health care is just the beginning





Lies meant to rile up his base. Lies that lead to idiots like those above to do the stupid horrible # they are doing. I can give you literally dozens more lies if these are not enough.


That wasn't a lie. The radical Democrats (AOC, Harris, Sanders, Warren, and many more) which currently have the voice of the party are pushing Socialism, which is what Venezuela has as an economic system.



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: BlackJackal

So you're accusing Trump of having magical powers that make people want to kill other people.



In other words, "So some people did something".


No, I'm accusing Trump of manufacturing false outrage that could possibly get someone killed. If Obama or Clinton was routinely telling blatant lies from the office of the president about Republicans I bet you would care then.


Obama and Clinton did tell lies daily.

How is he (Trump) manufacturing fake outrage?

that makes no sense.


You are being intentionally obtuse because I have already pointed out how he is manufacturing fake outrage. But let us review.

For years he has attacked any news that paints him in a negative light as "Fake"
The Mueller report proves that the news media got 90% of the "Fake" news correct.
He lies about the Democrats claiming they are more liberal than they are, telling his supporters that if they vote for the Democrats they will turn the country into Venezuela
He claims that massive voter fraud has taken place in any election that he doesn't agree with.

Do I need to go on?



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: BlackJackal

Good to see you're still alive.
Was worried your TDS had become terminal.

There's still time to turn away from the leftist hysteria.



So after the Mueller report has been released you seriously still support Trump? So are you telling me that if the Mueller report replaced the name Trump with Clinton or Obama you would be ok with that behaviour?

Come on man, this is not how any president should present themselves regardless of their party. As Americans we should demand better than a narcissistic moron. Trump doesn't care about you or me, he only cares about himself and intentionally lies to his supporters to keep his support. Are you really ok with the knowledge that you are being controlled? You are being told what and how to believe and you seem completely ok with it.

Let me guess, you haven't read the report you have just taken what Hannity and Rush have told you about it? The Mueller report shows that 90% of the reporting by the "Fake News" media on Trump and Russia was in fact true. So the guy screaming "fake news" is the actual liar.
The Mueller report shows there was no collusion and also stated that Mueller could not do any charges in obstruction of justice, where is your brain.

If Obama was president and under the microscope and this report came out about him, I would back Obama being innocent of those charges. No difference. I actually supported Obama till near his end of presidency, giving him the respect as the president of our country. Even though I did not agree with some of the stuff he did, some was pretty bad.

Most politicians are not that great of people, they were put in office because of their persistance and ability to deceive people, you would not want to put someone trying to benefit you into office who didn't try to make deals with the devil to benefit those who they represent.

I read about thirty percent of the report with an open mind, I think it shows Trump isn't guilty of collusion and he is not guilty of obstruction. He is pretty much a jerk, and he is used to getting his way and whines way too much when he is not bragging too much. But he is trying to get this country back on track, which is not working well with the Democrats blocking everything he tries. I have more of a problem with the attitudes of Liberals these days than with Trump. They are so obsessed with crushing Trump that they will jeopardize the citizens of this country to get their way.

I am now ashamed to say that most of my life I was a liberal. That saying, you are either with us or against us pushed by liberals is going to come back and smash them in the face and destroy the Democratic party.



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: Middleoftheroad



The truth is that the centrist Democratic Party is dead. The new Democrats are radical socialists who want to model America’s economy after Venezuela. If Democrats win control of Congress this November, we will come dangerously closer to socialism in America. Government-run health care is just the beginning





Lies meant to rile up his base. Lies that lead to idiots like those above to do the stupid horrible # they are doing. I can give you literally dozens more lies if these are not enough.


That wasn't a lie. The radical Democrats (AOC, Harris, Sanders, Warren, and many more) which currently have the voice of the party are pushing Socialism, which is what Venezuela has as an economic system.


Come on, you are smarter than this. No one, not even the most liberal American politician has even hinted at adopting a pure socialist economy. Show me where any one has said they intend to pass laws having the Federal government take over all private industries?

There are many people pushing for Medicare for all, even some Republicans. However, as you know, this is a common and successful form of medical insurance in many of the largest capitalist nations on the earth such as: Canada, Brazil, India, England, Germany, Japan, etc. So, it is completely possible to have a vibrant capitalist economy while having universal healthcare.



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

The left would turn us into Venezuela, the media is 90% biased negative towards Trump and the Mueller report exonerated him from any collusion with Russia.


If there’s to be any assassination attempts I see it more likely coming from the left because the coup didn’t go as planned.



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: BlackJackalNo one, not even the most liberal American politician has even hinted at adopting a pure socialist economy. Show me where any one has said they intend to pass laws having the Federal government take over all private industries?



New York mayor calls for end of private property

“Our legal system is structured to favor private property,” he said, insisting that “people would like to have the city government be able to determine which building goes where, how high it will be, who gets to live in it, what the rent will be.”

For good measure, he added: “If I had my druthers, the city government would determine every single plot of land, how development would proceed. And there would be very stringent requirements around income levels and rents. That’s a world I’d love to see.”



Later in the interview, de Blasio admitted that this type of governmental control is not possible right now – saying it causes “friction” and “anger” – but said that there are many people in New York City who would like to have a government that better addresses their daily needs.

www.foxnews.com...

So it can't happen yet ... but they are working on it.



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:48 PM
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Why are you still talking about Trump? This is about Obama. Why won't you talk about him?


“This astonishing confirmation, made under oath by the FBI, shows that the Obama FBI had to go to President Obama’s White House office to find emails that Hillary Clinton tried to destroy or hide from the American people.” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “No wonder Hillary Clinton has thus far skated – Barack Obama is implicated in her email scheme.”

www.judicialwatch.org...


"The White House and State Department signed off on surveillance targeting phone conversations of friendly foreign leaders, current and former U.S. intelligence officials said Monday, pushing back against assertions that President Obama and his aides were unaware of the high-level eavesdropping."

www.npr.org...



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: BlackJackal

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: BlackJackal

Good to see you're still alive.
Was worried your TDS had become terminal.

There's still time to turn away from the leftist hysteria.



So after the Mueller report has been released you seriously still support Trump? So are you telling me that if the Mueller report replaced the name Trump with Clinton or Obama you would be ok with that behaviour?

Come on man, this is not how any president should present themselves regardless of their party. As Americans we should demand better than a narcissistic moron. Trump doesn't care about you or me, he only cares about himself and intentionally lies to his supporters to keep his support. Are you really ok with the knowledge that you are being controlled? You are being told what and how to believe and you seem completely ok with it.

Let me guess, you haven't read the report you have just taken what Hannity and Rush have told you about it? The Mueller report shows that 90% of the reporting by the "Fake News" media on Trump and Russia was in fact true. So the guy screaming "fake news" is the actual liar.
The Mueller report shows there was no collusion and also stated that Mueller could not do any charges in obstruction of justice, where is your brain.

If Obama was president and under the microscope and this report came out about him, I would back Obama being innocent of those charges. No difference. I actually supported Obama till near his end of presidency, giving him the respect as the president of our country. Even though I did not agree with some of the stuff he did, some was pretty bad.

Most politicians are not that great of people, they were put in office because of their persistance and ability to deceive people, you would not want to put someone trying to benefit you into office who didn't try to make deals with the devil to benefit those who they represent.

I read about thirty percent of the report with an open mind, I think it shows Trump isn't guilty of collusion and he is not guilty of obstruction. He is pretty much a jerk, and he is used to getting his way and whines way too much when he is not bragging too much. But he is trying to get this country back on track, which is not working well with the Democrats blocking everything he tries. I have more of a problem with the attitudes of Liberals these days than with Trump. They are so obsessed with crushing Trump that they will jeopardize the citizens of this country to get their way.

I am now ashamed to say that most of my life I was a liberal. That saying, you are either with us or against us pushed by liberals is going to come back and smash them in the face and destroy the Democratic party.


It is obvious you have not read the report. Collusion is not a crime and the report specifically says it did not attempt to evaluate that term.


In evaluating whether evidence about collective action of multiple individuals constituted a crime, we applied the framework of conspiracy law, not the concept of “collusion.” In so doing, the Office recognized that the word “collud[e]”…has frequently been invoked in public reporting about the investigation. But collusion is not a specific offense or theory of liability found in the United States Code, nor is it a term of art in federal criminal law. For those reasons, the Office’s focus in analyzing questions of joint criminal liability was on conspiracy as defined in federal law.


In order to prove a criminal conspiracy the investigators would have to prove that the Trump campaign agreed to work toward a common goal with the Russians. That was not proven, however the investigators made it clear that if subjects of the investigation did not destroy evidence they may have been able to prove it.


While the investigation identified numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges.

We learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated — including some associated with the Trump Campaign deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long term retention of data or communication records, In such cases the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with the other known facts.


So there were many contacts between Trump his campaign and Russia and suspects intentionally destroyed evidence..... Seems like there was something similar to this that the right was upset about not too long ago.... What was it? Oh that's right, Hillary. But let me guess since Trump is the one destroying evidence you are cool with it right?

Also, while Mueller was unable to prove conspiracy, he was able to prove obstruction. He didn't indict because of DOJ policies and instead left that task to Congress.


The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred. Accordingly, while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.


Multiple legal scholars from both sides of the isle have concluded that the report includes enough evidence to reach the bar of bringing a case.

So I ask again, If this was Obama or Clinton would you defend them still after destroying evidence in one crime and having enough evidence for prosecution on 11 other counts of obstruction?



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: BlackJackal

This is some weak sauce I haven't seen before.

Y'all running out of talking points, aren't you?



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

You have the most ironic username I have ever seen. Are you sure your account isn't a joke account?



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:54 PM
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Nice deflection. Can't address the post?



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 12:54 PM
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Not one was a live bomb because there were NO triggering devices. The FBI even described the mailed items as "potentially destructive devices." A bullet is a potentially deadly device unless you put it in a gun. So odd he waited till election time don't you think if he was a Trump supporter?

Bias? I am just stating the truth. You need to check yourself...


Nothing to say about the actual shooting though right? It actually happened.



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 01:01 PM
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Was there any Russian or UK influences ?

😀



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 01:02 PM
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Well, this is about Obama, and he is the one who told the US to stand down against Russian interference to allow it, and told the Russians he would be free to work with them once he is re-elected.

So probably. Democrats like special counsels, they will for sure demand one, right?



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 01:04 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: BlackJackal

I read it. C'mon now. Be honest. All of the things he was saying or doing, well, funny how they 'never' happened isn't it. The Mueller Report was like a DNC Think Tank OP-Ed that was written so we can 'show' that 'something' almost 'Maybe' happened but it....didn't.

Not one thing to tie Trump to anything, as stated in the report, but over 30 items referred outside in which the majority are DNC members. Because he said "I'm f'd"...of course he did because an Special Investigation is perfect to stall, tarnish or impeded a presidency. Should he have stopped it, well, yes as we all know how there was NOTHING tied to his campaign and collusion which is what the investigation was for. He was right to try to cancel it in hindsight. He was right.

That...is fact.


No my friend you are wrong. There is plenty to tie Trump to Russia. The problem is that just accepting information from Russia is not a crime. We can label it lawful but awful. I know I don't want my presidential candidates funded and supported by foreign governments but Trump is completely fine with it.

The report details in precise details how Russia hacked voting companies and machines. How they informed the Trump campaign of Clintons stolen emails and how they directed them to work with wikileaks. In order to prove a criminal conspiracy however you must have a meeting of the minds where two or more people agree to work to a common goal. They were not able to find that link, what they did find was many activities that suggested that a meeting did take place. They even specifically say that they may have been able to prove a conspiracy if people in the Trump campaign didn't destroy evidence.


While the investigation identified numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges.

The special counsel’s office learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated — including some associated with the Trump Campaign deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long term retention of data or communication records.

In such cases the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with the other known facts.


His attempt to cancel the investigation was the furthest thing from 'right', it was criminal. Why delete evidence unless you have something to hide?



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: BlackJackal

Not one was a live bomb because there were NO triggering devices. The FBI even described the mailed items as "potentially destructive devices." A bullet is a potentially deadly device unless you put it in a gun. So odd he waited till election time don't you think if he was a Trump supporter?

Bias? I am just stating the truth. You need to check yourself...


Nothing to say about the actual shooting though right? It actually happened.


So in your mind, a militia training its members to assassinate politicians is ok? In my mind there is no difference between the moron that shot up the softball game and these morons. But since you must defend the absolute insanity that is the right, you are bound to say there is a difference.

We are all Americans, none of us should be trying to kill each other. Especially over conspiracy theories and a loony president.



posted on Apr, 24 2019 @ 01:10 PM
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Sure. Assassinate a bunch of irrelevant former leaders, including one who is in her 70's and one who is almost 90. This is nothing more than an attempt to blame this on "Trump rhetoric" because he made the grave mistake of being innocent of charges brought against him by liberals for over 2 years.



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