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posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 04:59 PM
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see this crap leaks over into everything


girl the feds were looking for found dead


She's dead just as I called it. Biden wants her scalp, Pelosi wants the info to pass on her voter ID to an illegal.


yup




posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
the point is the thread title is a blatant lie and sensationalized to spread an agenda

Welcome to political discussion and the media, man! Where were you when, prior to the Russian Collusion being demonstrated to be an absolute hoax and set-up by the prior administration, a good percentage (not the majority, but still a healthy number) of threads in the Mud Pit were crap along the lines of
"Trump Video. Psychopath What did he say to his wife"
"Trump Supporters When will you admit to being wrong"
"Trump is at fault for Smollett hoax."
"NRA not charitable organization but a terrorist organization"
"President Trump Mocks Mentally Disabled Mans Hand Movements"


The simple truth of the matter is that, from mid 2016 to late last year, when the media began to scale back people's expectations for the Mueller Report to have actually found anything, the Pit was FILLED with anti-Trump, sensationalized titles and bullsh_t. Getting exposed as having fallen for a hoax, especially one rooted in nothing but hatred and having your identity well connected in a community such as this to being a champion of that BS and hoax tends to cause those individuals ultimate embarrassment and they return to the woodwork for awhile. We can argue all day whether spiking the ball in the faces of people who just experienced such a devestating loss, literally witnessed their entire platform collapse out from under their feet after they bought into it wholesale, is appropriate... but believe me, had the Mueller Report gone the other direction, they'd be spiking it square in the faces of the other half of the board and we'd be having a similar discussion only in the reverse.


and mods like you participate and/or allow it

I'm sorry site Staff doesn't coddle your opinions... let me ask you this, where were your complaints about that just over 6 months ago when you were aghast and disgusted at the left for their railroading and witch hunting tactics trying to keep Judge Kavanaugh off the SCOTUS bench? You were pretty vocal then in your dismay and even went so far as to say you were done supporting them and finally saw exactly what they stood for and their dirty tactics. You didn't grouse about the fact that Staff was also voicing their concerns and participating as members in those discussions now, did you? I dunno man, you do you, but it seems very hypocritical and disingenuous... I get it, you slept off your anti-left drunk, probably reacquainted yourself with you crowd, and are back on your prior track, but that does not change the fact that at one time in the recent past you saw exactly what you're bitching about right now and agreed with the same folks you're bitching about.


it is a lie of a title. she didnt say what the OP started the thread with yet there it stays.

Actually she did say it... the portion she said is even in quotes in the title and was direct from her tweet. Seems like your beef should be with her for not being more concise with her words, ya?


you most definitely are one of the worst ones.
for sure

you constantly talk down to left leaning members
you propagate it or at the very least allow it to go on because it fits your agenda too

Thanks, I care.



i get a post deleted for saying someone is acting like a vagina but other people can basically say they are cool with or want omar to get assassinated and that post is still there.
tons of stars.

sitting member of congress man

you allow it to happen



It's hilarious you keep bringing that up in the same breath as a piss and moan about taking a congressowman's comments out of context despite the fact that she was directly quoted... Why do I say that? Because NOBODY said they were cool with Omar getting offed, you simply inferred it when another member didn't directly answer the question with a yes or a no. That's on you 100%, my man. We stop members from saying other members are "acting like a vagina" because it also prevents those members from saying YOU are "acting like a vagina." It's even-Steven, no direct insults allowed.



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

being being miffed at the kavanaugh thing and how the media handled it has no bearing on this at all

i know what i see

you are one of the worst offenders

you propagate it and/or at the least let this crap happen

and it's no direct insults allowed depending...... you know this is true

insults fly all the time and nothing is done about it

it is very selective

it is what it is

its cool man

not my site

i dont own the place

it will be what it will be

cool to call someone a leftist libtard whatever whatever but just dont say thy are acting like a vagina

too funny

keep up the solid work moderating burdman

edit on 17-4-2019 by TinySickTears because: (no reason given)


and she was not quoted as saying what the OP claimed
edit on 17-4-2019 by TinySickTears because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 05:32 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

here is the thread

www.abovetopsecret.com...

here is the title


Ilhan Omar On Notre Dame Cathedral Fire...It’s Just Some "Art and Architecture"


here is the tweet


Art and architecture have a unique ability to help us connect across our differences and bring people together in important ways. Thinking of the people of Paris and praying for every first responder trying to save this wonder.


so no she did not say what the OP stated in his lying sensational title that you are totally cool woth

good job burd



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:03 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

The purpose of quotation marks in the title confuses you, somehow. The title of that thread is no different, at all, from the title of most of our mainstream media headlines that quote a politician while the article's author also pushes an agenda. I don't disagree with you when you say members have agendas... we all have our own agendas, it's the entire purpose of debate: to push your agenda in a fashion that sways the other side over to your reasoning or, in absence of that change, paints your opponent as wrong.

Look at this, from the New York Times last May.
www.nytimes.com...

Trump Calls Some Unauthorized Immigrants ‘Animals’ in Rant

This was recently used by several Dems to mean Trump was referring to asylum seekers, NYT left out entirely the fact that Trump said this during a discussion on MS-13 gang bangers getting into the United States...
www.politifact.com...

A viral Twitter post said Trump said asylum seekers "aren't people. These are animals."

The tweet left out important context. Trump did refer to some people as "animals," but that was during an exchange about MS-13 gang members. His comment wasn’t directly about asylum seekers.

He wasn't referring to "some undocumented immigrants" he was referring to murderers crossing the border illegally.

This is a single example in a sea of them from the commercial media... but yeah, let's complain about someone on ATS incorporating their opinion or take on a politician's quote in the title of a thread the same member created, which properly utilizes quotation marks around only what the politician said. It's sort of the entire purpose of a discussion board... we require direct headline duplication in Breaking Alternative News forum titles for a reason, just as we allow editorialization in thread titles in the other forums for reasons... ATS IS NOT A NEWS SITE, we are a discussion forum with opinionated members. The Congresswoman's words were not obfuscated, manipulated, or changed by the member, she was directly quoted and properly so, along with the OP's take on the quote. Again, however, in defiance of your claim of this being a right wing echo chamber, the vast majority of responses disagreed with the OP's take.

As to your prior post, bringing me into it, again... I care.



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

talk it in circles all you want

i know what is going on.

and to this


it's the entire purpose of debate: to push your agenda in a fashion that sways the other side over to your reasoning or, in absence of that change, paints your opponent as wrong.


we differ on that

see i cant stand most of you. i do like (not as much anymore) to debate you all though for the simple fact that it makes me think.
it makes me think about my opinions.
it makes me think of how people from other walks of life view things.


and every now and again i change my opinion on things because of it

i have always been clear on that

i debate people that think differently than me so i can try to understand where they are coming from
so i can think about how i feel and what i feel and just maybe realize i am wrong or come to an understanding.

so you go ahead and keep pushing your agenda.
keep propagating the right wing agenda
keep allowing the lies and hate to spread

you are good at that aspect



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:13 PM
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along with the OP's take on the quote.


good one


but when my take on a members post being that of they want or are cool with omar getting assassinated i am wrong. its all on me. the person didnt say that


hahahahahahah

so keep talking in circles burdman


someone else that you jive with flat out lies and sensationalizes to push their BS....

ehhh

thats all good

what a joke



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
see i cant stand most of you.



See, I don't actually dislike you at all. You generally remind me of any of a number of Theory of a Deadman song lyrics with your non-political stories and takes.



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
but when my take on a members post being that of they want or are cool with omar getting assassinated i am wrong. its all on me. the person didnt say that


Was the OP's take on a specific member of this site? Is Ilhan Omar an ATS member? If so, she's yet to self identify to Staff... Do you really not see or recognize the difference there?



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

thanks i guess

i dont know what theory of a deadman is

im sure it is a dig at me though

its nothing personal

i dont like most people

to be fair most people dont like me

thats why i do all this conversing on here



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

what i recognize is that you are not impartial at all

you lean heavy to the right and your moderation shows


we going to do this dance all night?

i suspect we are not going to get anywhere


maybe we should both just accept it for what it is

not much else to do really



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:25 PM
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hahaahahahahahhahah


just looked up theory of a deadman

exactly what i thought

nice dig

kind of proves my point



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: burdman30ott6

thanks i guess

i dont know what theory of a deadman is

im sure it is a dig at me though


I'm surprised you haven't heard of them. They're a fairly popular rock band with some good songs and no, it wasn't at all a dig at you. Their lyrics are similar to some of your stories just put to music. Give it a listen and I think you'll realize it was actually anything but an intended insult at you.





posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

i guess i must apologize then

sure comes off like a dig

no job living with mom and #

super compliment

this is more like it









posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

LMAO!!! See, if I'd wanted to get a dig at you, that's actually the type of song I'd have referenced to you. Some folks' insults are another folks' compliments, I reckon.



posted on Apr, 17 2019 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: TinySickTears

LMAO!!! See, if I'd wanted to get a dig at you, that's actually the type of song I'd have referenced to you. Some folks' insults are another folks' compliments, I reckon.


well i cant argue with that

when youre right you are right

pretty funny how that works



posted on Apr, 18 2019 @ 02:58 AM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Perhaps it's just a problem with semantics. Shall we just call it a rightwing circle jerk and get it over with?


Careful, Grambler might make a thread about how it can't be a circle because his (madeup)GPS data concludes members geo-position create more of an oblong shape than spherical. Or how can it be a perfect circle jerk if theres some leftwingers in the circle not contributing to the jerk.

You know, another quality OP thread in the waiting.




posted on Apr, 18 2019 @ 06:25 AM
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a reply to: SeenItBelieveIt

Just cause you out that emoji at the end of your posts doesn’t mean your funny

Btw why don’t you tell olaru that you know he is right wing and part of the echo chamber

You know because you know everyone on this thread saying it’s a right wing echo chamber is right wing according to you



Oh yeah I have to add this to look like I made a great point.



posted on Apr, 18 2019 @ 07:11 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

What perspective are you looking at,pretty eloquent wording of one being patronizing,look at the posts of late,anyone of any real relevance has about 8 views 6 stars,then look at your media induced BS,it's a whole different ballgame,you can paint stripes on a jackass but no matter how you portray it it will always be a jackass



posted on Apr, 18 2019 @ 07:30 AM
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I think all this is bigger than ATS. There seems to be a war going on on the internet that is intensifying. I joined Minds.com, a free speech social media platform about a year ago. It started going Alt-right really quick and I eventually got sick of it. I went back recently to find a freaking war going on there. Out and proud storm-front National Socialists talking about the "white genocide" and death to jews and muslims and putting the Christchurch Killer up as a hero. There is a very real and growing Nazi movement occurring on the internet that is getting scary big and scary organised really fast. On minds.com, it seems the staff, despite being all about free speech are starting to censor these Nazi's since the Christchurch killings and the Nazi's are squealing like stuck pigs about it. They say that the Socialists are not being censored so its part of the white genocide. The thing is, the socialists are not posting meme's of jews hanging from nooses or calling for war against Islam.

I'm not saying ATS has gone full Nazi but I see the undercurrent here. There are a few posters here who I suspect are of that ilk. The other thing is that people talk about the democrats going really far left? I'm bamboozled as an Australian because I don't think people in the US have any idea what far left really means. In Australia, things such as universal healthcare are the norm, even supported somewhat by our right wing parties. Universal healthcare is not far left. Most western nations have universal healthcare. In Australia in the 1970's we had free university and free public education, our railways, electricity, water, telecommunications and many of our mines were state owned. This is normal around the world. We were never by any means communist or socialist though? I think the Alt-right are trying to move the goal posts on what's it means to be far left and that people in the US have a skewed view.




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