Notre Dame on fire in Paris

a reply to: RMFX1

I personally can't see the problem here.

Neither can I , if the rich of France step up to carry the burden that helps the poor of France who's taxes aren't being used to pay for it.

a reply to: RMFX1

Oh I dunno given that Notre dame has been a vehicle for the catholic church's power in France for over 700 years
it's been their way of collecting wealth from France and has been the seat of the catholic church in France

, it technically is their property , so the church should pay for it !

after all the roman catholic church has more wealth than the entire European Union

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: RMFX1

Oh I dunno given that Notre dame has been a vehicle for the catholic church's power in France for over 700 years
it's been their way of collecting wealth from France and has been the seat of the catholic church in France

, it technically is their property , so the church should pay for it !

after all the roman catholic church has more wealth than the entire European Union

Again, private individuals and entities are paying for it. Why is this even a discussion?

Im out of this particular debate.

More proof of no god, can't stop a simple fire from happening and can't magically repair a building dedicated to him/her/it even though they are supposed to have created everything makes you think

originally posted by: wmd_2008

More proof of no god, can't stop a simple fire from happening and can't magically repair a building dedicated to him/her/it even though they are supposed to have created everything makes you think

I'm not religious at all, but I can't help but think that its renovation and practically instant funding is pretty miraculous.

a reply to: wmd_2008

OH no , you fail to see what god has already made part of his plan!

it was meant to be burned it was a part of his grand design

a reply to: RMFX1

Why is it a discussion ?

because when something like the catholic church which has an extortionate reserve of wealth doesnt even offer to repair one of its own historical relics and leaves it to the individuals of that country its a bit of a talking point !

I think the last sort of estimate of the catholic churchs wealth , and this was a rough estimate and probably grossly undervalue , was around 30 billion !

this is akin to the catholic church not offering to repair the basillica of St Peter or the statue of Christ the redeemer if they were damaged !

They are religious icons and should be in the care of the church , just like the flock are supposed to be !

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: Mover3
a reply to: Creep Thumper

Imagine a world where the Library of Alexandria wasn't burnt to the ground, imagine all the information stored there being available today... that would be some wonder.

Do you read a lot of classical Greek literature? Or a fan of the epic poems of the Hindus? I suppose if you're a big fan of long poems to dead gods, then the Library of Alexandria would be the place to go. However, like most things of that nature, I assume that the best stuff was squirreled away by people before the S really hit the F.

Apparently not. We have lost the technology to build things like the pyramids and Göbekli Tepe, or to even understand how it was done.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Actually, there is plenty of food to feed the whole of the respective populations of people of the planet.

Distribution, waste, storage, and cost are the issue.

As to monies, well there is also plenty of that to go around also, as long as 1% of the population does not retain 70% of all the rest of the money and power.

Its a good idea to at least try and change the situation for the better, put it that way.

Else what's the fecking point?

originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: djz3ro

Honestly with the turmoil happening over there right now, if it were to be found to be terrorism related, for their sake do you think they would tell?

I believe they would because it wouldn't be easy to hush up...

As I understand it, all church buildings in France are state owned? If the RC church, or any other denomination, want to step up and offer a financial contribution to the building restoration effort, all well and good but as they are not the legal owners, they have no legal responsibility to act.

a reply to: teapot

aye but they have a responsibility under god to maintain their holy relics !

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: RMFX1

Why is it a discussion ?

because when something like the catholic church which has an extortionate reserve of wealth doesnt even offer to repair one of its own historical relics and leaves it to the individuals of that country its a bit of a talking point !

I think the last sort of estimate of the catholic churchs wealth , and this was a rough estimate and probably grossly undervalue , was around 30 billion !

this is akin to the catholic church not offering to repair the basillica of St Peter or the statue of Christ the redeemer if they were damaged !

They are religious icons and should be in the care of the church , just like the flock are supposed to be !

Im not willing to discuss this with you. Your opinion, in my opinion, is complete nonsense and irrelevant.

a reply to: RMFX1

Aye nae bother mate !

So in talking to members of my team from Paris the current explanation is that the fire was sparked by a worker incorrectly charging a device in the top wooden part of the church.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


You can ignore my posts? I think it's clear who's wound up here and it isn't me.

"this thread is about the fire at the Notre Dame de Paris???"

The discussion of billionaires raising money for Notre Dame is of relevance. You don't see it because you're so wound up?

"It' is NOT about some cause the French people may, or may not, be involved in and whether the globalist elites wish to fund that cause!" Here we go with the "cause" bollocks, you don't even know what you're on about and are assuming my "cause". Because my line of discussion doesn't fit with your bleeding heart, and I prefer to actually discuss things rather than go around in circles like yourself saying "Aww how bad is it", you're here like the internet Nazi you are trying to shut down discussion? Do one.

"You're all wound up around the fact the fire is allegedly (per you) getting more attention than your cause."

Nope. You're doing that thing again, where you assume too much.

"Personally, I don't think it has eclipsed anything, rather I think you're just mad that someone OTHER than your cause is getting money." Personally I believe you have severe mental difficulties and are conjuring up positions for people on the internet so you can argue against them, strange.

"Okay, that's worthy of discussion, but just not on this thread." How many times must it slap you in the face? You are not the arbitrator of what can and can't be said in a discussion. This is a thread about Notre Dame, billionaires are pledging significant funds in times of austerity... that can be discussed here since it's Notre Dame they're raising funds for.

To borrow your logic, create a new thread... Notre Dame is no longer on fire.

"Yesterday, when challenged..." Oh, that's what you were doing? Forgive me I thought you were up to something else.

"you alluded to the fact that the fire was set to intentionally distract from your cause" Funny how you've gone from claiming I said it was set intentionally now to this, I didn't say either. You're just making things up; mentally ill.

"Okay, then your point here should be the fire was intentionally set to create a diversion." again with the making positions to argue against. Seek help, the internet is doing you no good.

"Those are for another thread. How hard is it for you to see this????"

Discussing the fire and subsequent events are of relevance to this thread, if you don't want me to respond to your inane ramblings then don't post absolute horse#e.

Where's the moderator to remove your attempts to drag this thread off-topic?

a reply to: RMFX1

"Youre right." Exactly. Not much of your post requires any more attention apart form the "socialist" bollocks.

Cold war paranoia seeping through.

It isn't socialist bull but more humanitarian, is compassion something you lack? Thought so.

"Let them eat mud. People have already tried and failed to show thay particular group of people the way." HAHAHAHAHA I just read this, are you the grand wizard of the KKK or do you always give off that vibe?

"I don't have any argument in particular with your point" Oh give it time, I'm sure you'll find something...

a reply to: andy06shake

*Alex Jones voice* # out of here with your humanitarianism, socialist scum.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: tanstaafl
Actually, there is plenty of food to feed the whole of the respective populations of people of the planet.

Whats the fecking point of including the quote attribution (that you are replying to me) without including the text of the comment you are replying to for context?

In other words - I have no clue what you are responding to.