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Reincarnation - The Facts

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posted on Mar, 4 2005 @ 03:14 AM

Originally posted by Merger

Well, I must say, what an interesting read, here's something that I believe in.

Time is an illusion. In the eyes of God, the past, present and future, all happen simultaneously. So, you being born is happening NOW, you dieing, is happening NOW, everything is happening RIGHT NOW.

So why am I focused on this single point in time? This is where our souls decided it needed to focus to learn and gain experience. Re-incarnation is also an illusion and is part of the illusion of Time. Our souls are actually functioning in other bodies, whether alien, animal, or human right NOW, except (and i said it before) its currently focused in YOU at THIS POINT in time AND space.

Everyone who 'incarnates' on earth are attracted to EARTH because they have a victim mentality, each and every human on this planet are victims of some sort. If we weren't, we'd probably incarnate on Khoom (Planet around Sirius A) or other planets that are inhabitable..

So, what do we do now? You are here right now because you are at the best time to learn what you need to learn, so take advantage of that, and sort your life out, learn what life is about, and experience every good thing that involves you.....

All the best

Another non-verifiable statement... No offense intended, but still looking for evidence. Many years ago I used to perform therapeutic hypnosis and used previous lifetimes as the method of achieving the change up/cure. However, I never did find a smoking gun, as it were.

I see that someone else posted that there was no evidence for the statements regarding the council of Nicea. This is something that I have heard often enough in defense of the reincarnation doctrine, but have never seen validation of it, and am, therefore somewhat skeptical of the intent, if not the validity of the statement.

posted on Mar, 4 2005 @ 09:56 PM
If you noticed there, i said it was what I believed in........I wasn't stating it as fact....

posted on Mar, 4 2005 @ 11:39 PM
Peace All


["The Bhagavad-Gita, the holy book of Lord Krishna, says the following:

"The Being is not born, does not die, nor does it reincarnate; it has no origin; it is eternal and changeless; it is the first of all, and does not die when the body passes away."

Let our Gnostic readers now reflect upon the following contradictory and antithetical verse.

"As one sets aside worn out clothes and puts on new ones, so the embodied Being leaves its spent body and enters other new ones."

These are two opposing verses from the Great Avatar Krishna. If we did not know the key, we would obviously be confused:

"Upon leaving the body, taking the path of the fire, of the light, of the day, of the luminous lunar fortnight and of the northern solstice, those who know Brahma, go towards Brahma."

"Upon death, the yogi who takes the path of smoke of the dark Lunar fortnight and of the southern solstice, reaches the Lunar sphere (the Astral World) and is then reborn (returns, reembodies)."

"These two paths, the luminous and the dark, are considered permanent. Through the first, one is emancipated, and through the second, one is reborn (returns)."

We declare that the Being, the Lord Incarnated in some perfect creature, can return, Reincarnate...

"When the Lord (The Being) acquires a body, or leaves it, He associates with the six senses, or abandons them and passes like the breeze which carries with it the scent of flowers."

"Directing the ears, the eyes, the organs of touch, taste and smell as well as the mind, He experiences the objects of the senses."

"The ignorant and deluded do not see Him when He takes a body, when He leaves it or has experiences associated with the Gunas. Whereas, those who have the Eyes of Wisdom do see Him."

The following verse of Lord Krishna, as an extraordinary document on the doctrine of Reincarnation, is worth meditating on.

"Oh, Bharata! Every time that religion deteriorates and irreligion prevails, I incarnate anew (in other words I Reincarnate) to protect the good, destroy evil and establish religion, I incarnate (or Reincarnate) in different times."

From all these verses of Lord Krishna, two conclusions can be logically drawn:

Those who know Brahma go to Brahma and can, if they so desire, return, embody, Reincarnate, to carry out the Great Work of the Father.

Those who have not dissolved the ego, the Self, the Me, Myself, go, after death, along the path of smoke, of the dark lunar fortnight and the southern solstice, reaching the Lunar sphere and are then reborn, Return, reembody in this painful Vale of Samsara.

The Doctrine of the Great Avatar Krishna teaches that the Gods, Demi-Gods, Divine Sovereigns, Titans and only Devas Reincarnate.

To Return is something very different: unquestionably it is the Return of the Kalpas, Yugas, Mahamanvantaras, Maha-Pralayas, etc.

The Law of Eternal Return of all things is always combined with the Law of Recurrence.

The egos return incessantly to repeat dramas, scenes, and events, here and now. The past is projected towards the future through the passage of the present.

The word Reincarnation is most demanding, it must not be used carelessly: No one would be able to Reincarnate without first having eliminated the ego, without truly possessing Sacred Individuality.

Incarnation is a very venerable word, signifying in fact the reembodiment of the Divine in a man.

Reincarnation is the repetition of such a cosmic event, a new manifestation of the Divine...

We are in no way exaggerating concepts by emphasizing the transcendental idea that Reincarnation is only possible for "Golden Embryos" which have achieved the glorious union with the Super-Soul in any Cycle of Manifestation.

It would be absurd to confuse Reincarnation with Return. We would be making the worst kind of mistake to attest that the ego, legion of dark, sinister, twisted "I's," can Reincarnate.

- Excerpted from "The Mystery of the Golden Blossom

[edit on 4-3-2005 by Tamahu]

posted on Mar, 9 2005 @ 07:36 AM
It is also Biblical:
Elilas was reincarnated as John the Baptist

Matthew 17 (King James Version)

12 But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.

13 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist.

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