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originally posted by: Plotus
originally posted by: Lumenari
originally posted by: highvein
a reply to: Lumenari
That is way better than I could have explained it.
I left out number four...
Cover everyone's ass that was a part of it and burn as much information as you can.
But other than that, I'm happy with it.
The House Dems' legal struggle, paid for by taxpayers, will likely drag on to the Supreme Court. Success for Democrats is far from guaranteed. Half a century ago, in a case involving the House Un-American Activities Committee, the justices ruled Congress can't go on fishing expeditions: "There is no congressional power to expose for the sake of exposure."
In another ruling, the Supremes stated that Congress can demand information only for legislative purposes, not to investigate if someone has committed a crime. For good reason. As the president's lawyer, William Consovoy, warned, allowing the majority party in the House to demand tax returns will empower them to "attack, harass, and intimidate their political opponents." Not just Trump. Even their opponents vying for their seats in Congress.
Consovoy also reminded House Dems that Trump has "even greater authority than Congress to obtain individuals' tax returns." Pelosi and the gang would "surely balk" at that. Don't put it past Trump. He cancelled Pelosi's military plane ride to Afghanistan. He could demand her tax return, too. Tit for tat. www.realclearpolitics.com...
originally posted by: rickymouse
Gee, if it worked, we could petition the IRS to get all of the congressmen's tax returns so we could see if they are getting income from any legal bribes and compare it to their lifestyle. I think maybe the IRS should set precedence so people can find out if a candidate is a crook before electing them.
Trump was a private citizen, his tax returns are not public knowledge, same with the returns of all people including government workers. If we bust this law wide open we could find out who is cheating the citizens of the USA that are working for the government. But, then anyone would be able to access our Taxes too, including criminals.
originally posted by: Aazadan
The IRS has absolutely zero legal recourse to fight this. Even if members of the IRS were to ignore subponeas, be held in contempt, and have that contempt pardoned by Trump, the IRS and their servers are within the area of jurisdiction of the capitol police, so quite frankly... their participation is not required. They can delay and deflect all they would like, but at the direction of Congress, the Capitol Police can be tasked with walking down to the IRS's office and seizing either the records, or the entire servers if necessary.
With the news coming out of how the AG believes Trumps campaign was spied on, the Dems should try stopping going after stupid snip, and start trying to rebuild their party.