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The UK State Goes Full On Authoritarian

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posted on Apr, 10 2019 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: Tartuffe

Lmao, tizzy?!

Okay fella, you are the only one of us who has shown.emotion like that in our exchanges in this thread. I've been totally calm and reasoned. What was your last whine at me like that? That's it, pissy lol
Your style of debate is too childlike for me though so I shall leave you to it, with love and thanks that you are supporting my current right to view torture and genocide, while I sleep tonight.
Your concern for my freedoms touches me deeply...I am but a slave to the Crown looking longingly at the brave free world over the atlantic 😚


edit on 10-4-2019 by SerenTheUniverse because: Grammar




posted on Apr, 10 2019 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: SerenTheUniverse
a reply to: Tartuffe

Lmao, tizzy?!

Okay fella, you are the only one of us who has shown.emotion like that in our exchanges in this thread. I've been totally calm and reasoned. What was your last whine at me like that? That's it, pissy lol
Your style of debate is too childlike for me though so I shall leave you to it, with love and thanks that you are supporting my current right to view torture and genocide, while I sleep tonight.
Your concern for my freedoms touches me deeply...I am but a slave to the Crown looking longingly at the brave free world over the atlantic 😚



If you can ever muster a coherent argument (or a sentence), I'll still be here protecting you while you sleep and defending your rights while you spit on them.


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posted on Apr, 10 2019 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: Tartuffe

My reasoned argument was sound and certainly coherent, but thank you for being concerned about my freedoms.
Maybe one day the UK will rise up from our slumber and fight for a society and governance as free as your Utopia of tolerance and unity...
Lmao, you're no less a peasant slave than I am πŸ˜‚
...wake me up when the tyranny starts yeah x



posted on Apr, 10 2019 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: SerenTheUniverse
a reply to: Tartuffe

My reasoned argument was sound and certainly coherent, but thank you for being concerned about my freedoms.
Maybe one day the UK will rise up from our slumber and fight for a society and governance as free as your Utopia of tolerance and unity...
Lmao, you're no less a peasant slave than I am πŸ˜‚
...wake me up when the tyranny starts yeah x


It was incoherent, had nothing to do with the topic, and was dismissive of my own arguments. It was in bad faith, in poor form, and difficult to read.

Anyways, I think your masters are beckoning. Off to bed with you.



posted on Apr, 10 2019 @ 07:11 PM
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a reply to: Tartuffe

Nope, I made a perfectly valid and relevant on topic argument, but tragically you failed to grasp the general concept of state censorship which you already support, as I do, such as child porn.
You would object to the government censoring torture and genocide videos though, as you said earlier, so you clearly contradict yourself when you assert that you are against ALL censorship.

Torture and genocide videos are okay so long as any kids in the film have clothes on, then it should be censored, lmao, you have made me chuckle though, wake me up when the tyranny starts please πŸ˜‚



posted on Apr, 10 2019 @ 07:18 PM
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a reply to: SerenTheUniverse

It's where they would stop through.

Censorship is a slippery slope at the best of times.

And when our beloved gooberment ministers are coming away with the likes of people need to be protected from themselves whilst online, you know nothing good is going to come of it.

Plus implementation of a simple VPN will somewhat circumvent their ability to censor much if anything at all.

The halfwits that are going to view such spurious torture and genocide videos are always going to find a way to do so.

Trying to Police the internet in an effective manner in akin attempting to Police the ocean.
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posted on Apr, 10 2019 @ 07:49 PM
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I think we'd have less of an issue with this if the lawmakers weren't so vague in their language with regards to what could be censored. If they simply created a list with specific details on what will be deemed "censor-able", then there would be less fear and paranoia as to the potential for "slippery slopes". If something is proposed to be added to the list which specifically entails the censorship of harmless sites/content such as ATS, then it'd be much easier to generate a mass up-welling of public outrage at the proposal -- and it'd likely (ideally) not be implemented.

It's where they use vague wording that can be interpreted to encompass almost anything, that has me worried as to their true intentions.



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 04:16 AM
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originally posted by: Tartuffe

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: SerenTheUniverse

Agreed. Also, there can be no valid reason not to regulate sites aimed at vulnerable teens and children aimed solely at encouraging them to self harm (with very graphic pictures by the way) , suicide or promoting anorexia, etc.


You might as well get rid of television and video games while you're at it. Think of the children.

The problem is your failure as parents, your inability to regulate what your children access on the internet, has led you to cry for the government's help where your own responsibilities lack.


Not really, no. Apples and oranges. Do you work for a large social media corporation by any chance?



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 05:24 AM
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originally posted by: Tartuffe

I saw them on twitter, and they are posted by the families and friends of ISIS's victims. When the victims of these atrocities use these videos to show us evil, to cry for help, they do have a place on the internet.


No they are not, they are uploaded by the murderer, do you really believe the family uploaded them, if so please show me the source of you story.



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 05:47 AM
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a reply to: UpIsNowDown

I thought these videos were ISIS propaganda?



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 06:04 AM
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a reply to: Freeborn

not at all but its the tories who cause the most destruction to our society! or at least to the workers
labour are #ing red tories anyway !

Arseholes !


there is no workers party any more , no political party represents the people !

but the tories and labour can do one !

hjahahah scumbags



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: paraphi

as for the hiding pedo's they have been caught a few times trying it and they get away with it !
as for the getting rid of the tories how do you account for the tories austerity policy and evidence linking that policy to the deaths of UK citizens as a result


Tell me that they have the best interest of the UK in their hearts , I dont #in think so , the quicker we get rid of party politics , including the tories the better we will all be !

Landmark study linsk Tories to UK deaths



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: oldcarpy

I thought that also. Apparently OP belives they are family videos akin to to holiday snaps to be shared on farcebook



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: SerenTheUniverse
a reply to: Tartuffe

Nope, I made a perfectly valid and relevant on topic argument, but tragically you failed to grasp the general concept of state censorship which you already support, as I do, such as child porn.
You would object to the government censoring torture and genocide videos though, as you said earlier, so you clearly contradict yourself when you assert that you are against ALL censorship.

Torture and genocide videos are okay so long as any kids in the film have clothes on, then it should be censored, lmao, you have made me chuckle though, wake me up when the tyranny starts please πŸ˜‚


You’re giggling into the sea. Not once have you mentioned the legal behavior in the paper. You cannot, because your β€œvalid argument” would sound even sillier.



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: UpIsNowDown
a reply to: oldcarpy

I thought that also. Apparently OP belives they are family videos akin to to holiday snaps to be shared on farcebook


Those videos are likely filmed and uploaded by ISIS, yes.



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 09:07 AM
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originally posted by: oldcarpy

originally posted by: Tartuffe

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: SerenTheUniverse

Agreed. Also, there can be no valid reason not to regulate sites aimed at vulnerable teens and children aimed solely at encouraging them to self harm (with very graphic pictures by the way) , suicide or promoting anorexia, etc.


You might as well get rid of television and video games while you're at it. Think of the children.

The problem is your failure as parents, your inability to regulate what your children access on the internet, has led you to cry for the government's help where your own responsibilities lack.


Not really, no. Apples and oranges. Do you work for a large social media corporation by any chance?


Apples and oranges are both fruit. Do you work for the government by chance? On their dole?



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 09:19 AM
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a reply to: Tartuffe

Dude, it's a white paper, you have no idea how far away from becoming law that means. The current UK government doesn't even have a majority of MP's to get it through Parliament, never mind the fact that they are a whisker away from a no confidence vote and a likely general election again this year.

Now stop wetting your panties about something which is basically a statement of intent by a failing government. When it gets to committee stage of debate I'll be interested but right now you need not be frightened for us.
An equivalent example would be Trump making promises which he cannot guarantee because he needs the senate/congress to support it.
# me, you are like chicken little...you do know there are health professionals who can help with paranoia?



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: SerenTheUniverse
a reply to: Tartuffe

Dude, it's a white paper, you have no idea how far away from becoming law that means. The current UK government doesn't even have a majority of MP's to get it through Parliament, never mind the fact that they are a whisker away from a no confidence vote and a likely general election again this year.

Now stop wetting your panties about something which is basically a statement of intent by a failing government. When it gets to committee stage of debate I'll be interested but right now you need not be frightened for us.
An equivalent example would be Trump making promises which he cannot guarantee because he needs the senate/congress to support it.
# me, you are like chicken little...you do know there are health professionals who can help with paranoia?


More excuses. Sorry, I refuse to take the advice of pantywaists who can not even find the nads to oppose the government limiting their freedoms.



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 09:34 AM
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a reply to: Tartuffe

Lol again!
Get back to me when the paper is debated in committee stage in Parliament, not that you will understand what that means, but basically the details will be picked over by all sides of the house.
You have no idea, just a typical example of a paranoid American.

And again, you should get your own house in order before worrying about mine πŸ” little lmao πŸ˜‚



posted on Apr, 11 2019 @ 09:38 AM
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a reply to: Tartuffe




Apples and oranges are both fruit.


Never heard of that expression, then?



Do you work for the government by chance? On their dole?


No.



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