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Diplomats and Executives Evacuate Libya as Former Government Takes Tripoli Back With Military

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posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry



TonyS, if we are talking France, your my guy in the know. If you see this, please update us on French activity or interests.

On it. Back to you after I make some calls.




posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 09:09 AM
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More scenes from the city, wrecked equipment, locals finish attending a prayer and one is interviewed. Then it ends with somebody investigating a former LNA operations room.



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 09:50 AM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

O.K., not finding much of recent news and my Libyan contact can not presently reach family in Tripoli due to spotty phone service and problems in Tunisia with ISIS raid on Thursday.

Your report of Chadian mercenaries is interesting. The French military has an established air base in Chad which is providing air support for counter insurgency operations against Boko Haram.

There is anecdotal evidence of France providing logistical support for the LNA:
www.alaraby.co.uk...

The clearest indication of French support:
en.m.wikipedia.org...


From early 2015, during the years prior to the April 2019 attack on Tripoli, Haftar received long-term support from French authorities, including French "advisers, clandestine operatives, and special forces"[47] helping the LNA's military operations in the east and south of Libya.[48][49] Three of the French special-forces soldiers died in a helicopter accident near Benghazi in July 2016.[47] Bloomberg News stated that the al-Sarraj administration had long-term support from Italian authorities.


More as it develops.



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: TonyS
I have only been able to confirm the presence of French operators in surrounding countries, but other than the incident outside Benghazi three years ago, I also cannot seem to find any indication of French support for the LNA other than the protests of Italy, and the GNA cancelling a deal with Total energy, which was clarified days later as a request for some updated paperwork or something. I think I may have posted that information on page one.

But, with you reminding me that France has a base in Chad, I think we could speculate that perhaps French intelligence recruited these mercenaries for the LNA? It is quite a reach, and I doubt we could ever confirm that. But its the only connection I can draw at this time with the available intel we have.

a reply to: Balans
That list looks about right! You should also include non-state actors as a third party. Somehow, ISIS keeps popping up at inconvenient times for the LNA further East. They do not necessarily attack the GNA, or support them. But situations can change.
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posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 11:48 AM
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Just a guess on my part, but I would suggest it is likely that the French have advisors on the ground in Benghazi.

I think it is likely that the French provided materiel and logistics support to the Chadian militia members; probably transport as well.

Know this; based upon my research, the French have something like 7,000 troops and personnel on bases in Senegal, Mali, Faso, Chad and Nigeria fighting Boko Haram; they are also assisting the Algerians to protect their oil fields and I would guess they have advisors and possibly security personnel in Tunisia.

From what I understand, the French are highly motivated and determined to blunt ISIS and Al Queda cells in Western and North Africa and will do whatever is necessary to effectuate that. However, they are, as well, masters of the lowest of low profiles and their intelligence in the area is second to none. Years of Colonization follwed by their maintenance of the "Francophone" area of Africa in the form of military and social programs have provided them with detailed understanding of available infrastructure resources at their disposal throughout the area. They also work with the Tuareg tribes to gather data and stage materiel and supplies where and when neeeded.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 04:41 AM
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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: galadofwarthethird
Another view of reprisal strikes.


And, Norwegian troops are ha going out in Mali too. Interesting.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 05:18 AM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

www.zerohedge.com...


The New York Times is outraged, just outraged! — that US anti-tank missiles have been found in "unknown" Libyan rebel hands. Of course, when tons of American military hardware was covertly sent to al-Qaeda linked "rebels" fighting to topple Muammar Gaddafi in 2011, and when those same weapons were later transferred to the anti-Assad insurgency in Syria, many of them no doubt used by ISIS and al-Nusra Front, the mainstream media didn't find much to complain about. But now the "scandal" is being uncovered in 2019?

Currently, it's the UN-backed government in Tripoli which finds itself on the receiving end of deadly accurate high-tech US-made weapons systems, according to the Times:



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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Even the narcos in Mexico and South America have atgm's now . I think the Times is only feigning anger because of the javelins specifically, since nobody produces them by license and they are so obviously American. Since the nyt, wapost and wsj are themselves run by members of the Intel community, they must express their feigned anger due to the fact is was their peers in the CIA that moved all of that around. But only the javelins have such an obvious source though, which will generate some animosity from the domestic America haters pretending to be sjw's, as well as some sincere outrage from weapons control crowd.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: 727Sky
Also, how come you do not update the idlib thread?? I can provide you with half a dozen sources covering that region if your looking for some. I always check in and see lots of activity, but I don't always have the time to update .

The livemap alone I don't use, I just look for the Twitter source on the event page and add them to a list I check daily.

You know Syria has been shelling actual Turkish military posts along the way. I seen some pretty brutal ambushes and failed counter attacks as well between HTS, TIP, and the Syrian forces lately.
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posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 05:49 PM
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a reply to: worldstarcountry

By all means anything you might add is appreciated by the few of us who are interested in international entanglements. All I have presently is youtu.be...



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 05:54 PM
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I have a feeling we will be hearing Iran helped out here...



posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 10:37 PM
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a reply to: 727Sky
Im going to post a list of twitter accounts on that thread from many of the sources I use to monitor the Syria conflict. Some of them cover MENA in general, and a handful have a few niche dedications such as guns and weapons ID, so plenty of images.

But check out this recent GoPro footage from a tank engaging targets south of Tripoli. It looks like at one point either the crewman thought maybe he was approaching an IED maybe, or was just trying to finish off a guy from close. He shoots down at the ground barely a few feet in front of him. Makes a helluva mess, but reminds me of so many times I did the same thing in a video game.



posted on Jul, 3 2019 @ 12:24 AM
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Ahh, is this a Chinese drone over the skies? Nobody asks how that got there, everybody only seems interested in American equipment.


Arnaud Delalande
‏ @Arn_Del
Jul 1

#Libya #Tripoli - Photo of a Wing Loong UAV taken over the Libyan capital on June 30th confirms the engagement of this Chinese-made drone in support of #LNA troops.


He speculated as much back in April when images of these missiles showed up. Looks like his suspicions were confirmed.

Monday, April 29, 2019
Remains of Chinese made missiles found in Tripoli points to Wing Loongs airstrikes
As part of Operation Taoufane al-Karama, the accuracy of night air strikes has become unusually high for at least a week. The past days, many pictures of remains of missiles were sent to me for identification pointing they could have been launched by foreign air forces during night airstrikes around Tripoli. The photos have been taken in fighting in Wadi Rabe on April 17th and in Aziziya and comparison with Chinese made Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM) LJ-7, also known as 'Blue Arrow-7', confirmed that this type of missiles was used in the two air strikes. Some Blue Arrow 7 missiles fragments were found following night air strikes on :

- Wadi Rabe' south of Tripoli on April 17th
- Al-Hira on April 20th
- El-Azizia on April 20th
- Ain Zara on April 21th

The LJ-7 missile is an ATGM derivative of a semi-active laser guided HJ-10 for export market. The missile has been displayed at Eurosatory 2012 as the Blue Arrow 7. It is also used for armor penetration is up to 1400 mm; it is achieved by increasing the warhead and reducing the fuel, resulting in the reduction of the maximum range.

Al-Khadim is a former airport located in al-Marj province in eastern Libya. Since June 2016, Emirates IOMAX AT-802 “Air Tractor” turboprop aircraft and Chinese-made Wing Loong UAV have been deployed on this airbase on which extension works started to increase its capacity. The existing parking area was equipped with a dozen of shelters, half of them used to house aircraft and drones.



posted on Jul, 6 2019 @ 11:22 AM
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PC died on me and lost a more detailed write up. I'll just copypasta the twitter posts for now on the downed L-39, im off to a park! More updates later today, Turkey is sending reinforcements, including possibly terrorists from the Syria front. The GNA President also seeking support form Indonesia.



Oded Berkowitz ‏ @Oded121351
#Libya- photos from wreckage of #GNA MiG-23 that was reportedly shot down by #LNA ground fire over #Tarhunah earlier today

Joseph Dempsey ‏ @JosephHDempsey Jul 5 Analysis of claimed wreckage of #Libya #GNA aircraft lost indicates Aero L-39 - not Mig-23 as initially reported.



posted on Jul, 7 2019 @ 10:05 PM
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A practical modification of a South African origin. UAE delivers, the LNA upgrades it. Maybe that funny hummer from page one was from the LNA as well?




posted on Jul, 10 2019 @ 02:39 PM
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oh your going to love this, now the New York Times has stated that those Javelins belonged to the French! The analyst I follow broke it down in the following summary, with French state department I think it was claiming they were non-functional and awaiting destruction. That sure is rich isn't it?

#Libya- so apparently the FGM-148 Javelins that were found at #Garyan belonged to....#France
Wait, it gets more complicated. The weapons were meant to "protect French troops in Libya", but also "damaged and no longer usable" and "awaiting destruction". Well, which one is it? 2/

If it's non-usable & awaiting destruction, what the hell were the Javelins doing in Garyan, which had little to no significance prior to Tripoli campaign (and therefore had no reason to house French troops)?
If it was in fact meant to protect French troops and never transferred, that would indicate that there were French troops in #Garyan, the #LNA's theater command center for #Tripoli campaign. i.e #France supporting #LNA against #GNA in #Tripoli?
#France had supported the #LNA in #Libya even after the formation of the #GNA (mostly in #Benghazi), and it's no secret that they lean towards Haftar, but a direct support to the LNA in the #Tripoli campaign would be a big deal.... 5/
Also, violating the embargo or not, they clearly ended up in local hands....
Assuming all of this is true and that I'm not missing anything, there really is no good scenario for #France here... Either they supplied the Javelins to the #LNA (less likely), provided the #LNA direct military support against the #GNA in #Tripoli (more likely), or...both? 7/
Well, just to put another twist to it (as if there weren't enough), apparently the French embassy in Libya categorically denied the presence of French troops in Garyan (H/T @ZahiLibi) twitter.com... … 8/


What are they saying in French language media about this incident?



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 01:47 PM
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The current migrant situation in Tripoli which are getting ready to invade Europe, has been carefully orchestrated by the Italian armed forces and intelligence presence in Tripoli since April-May 2019, when they intervened to attempt to stop Haftar from stopping the migrant flow !

This plan has been carefully put in motion by the Italian Supreme Council of Defense.



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: Flanker86
Yes the lna accidentally bombed a migrant holding center killing 53 while aiming for an ammo Depot that was a few hop skips next to it. Easy mistake to make when your flying 3rd generation craft without guided missiles.







 
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