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Fascism, is Communism, Naziism & Socialism Are All Just Variations of Collectivism

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posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 06:19 PM
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Wild article here that hits nails on heads.

Seems many people have gone to great lengths to convince the "history" of the opposite.

All the "collective" systems are exactly that. "Collectivism".

Trouble is, the ones running the shows seem to always "collect" more than everybody else.

"Collectivism" vs "Collectivictimism" 😎



Fascism, is Communism, Naziism & Socialism Are All Just Variations of Collectivism. The Battle Isn’t Right vs. Left. It’s Statism vs. Individualism

In 1936, you had three choices: National Socialism, international socialism, or dignity. In 2018, we find ourselves in similar circumstances… Why is this happening now…? First, we scholars have failed to convince the public of just how wicked all forms of communism were and remain. …Almost all historians ignore the most salient fact of the 20th century: that governments murdered more than 200 million innocents, the largest massacre in the history of the world.

Terror reigned in the killing fields, the Holocaust camps, and the gulags. …Second, an entire generation has grown up never knowing such things as the Soviet gulags or even the Berlin Wall. …most younger defenders of communism buy into the oldest propaganda line of the Left—that real communism has never been tried.


He explains that fascism and socialism are two sides of the same coin.


"Don't let yourself get *COLLECTED* by Collectivists"




posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 06:29 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Authoritarianism actually.


Today's Left Wing of the Democratic Party.

Do what we want, say what we want, think like we want or else there will be consequences.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Great post


Hope to see these "collectivist" ideologies continually laid into



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 07:04 PM
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The German Government prior to Adolph was...Democratic Socialism that in the eyes of the Nazis, a very Bavarian-centric ideology that extended to include all Germany and former German lands, was the enemy that allowed Communism to flourish. As such, the Democratic Socialists were outlawed as a political party very shortly after Adolph became Chancellor.

But the above history lesson is an aside. My question is how can anyone claim to advance or even support Democracy when they promote any form of Collectivism?



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 07:12 PM
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Moment of synchronicity. I was just thinking about this exact same topic today.

All to these ideologies definitely have a lot in common.

Namely, loss of personal freedoms and big govt. controls everything.

That they have all proven to be losers over and over and resulted in nothing but human suffering and are still peddled by so many is a real head scratcher, imo.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 07:43 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

What exactly is Naziism?



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen


…most younger defenders of communism buy into the oldest propaganda line of the Left—that real communism has never been tried.


Communism isn't something you try, it's something you achieve... and it has never been achieved.

All isms are collectives.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: Bone75
a reply to: xuenchen


…most younger defenders of communism buy into the oldest propaganda line of the Left—that real communism has never been tried.


Communism isn't something you try, it's something you achieve... and it has never been achieved.

All isms are collectives.


A successful commune only works if every member pulls their weight, and no member takes advantage of the others.

It doesn't work with thieves.
It doesn't work with welfare cases.
It doesn't work with authoritarians.
It doesn't work with the sick.

It will never work with humanity. Humans are incompatible with communism.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 08:41 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

A system of government in which Germany controls all of Europe. But different from the EU where Germany controls all of Europe.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: Ahabstar

Fascism?



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 08:59 PM
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originally posted by: a325nt

It doesn't work with thieves.
It doesn't work with welfare cases.
It doesn't work with authoritarians.
It doesn't work with the sick.

It will never work with humanity. Humans are incompatible with communism.


What's funny is that it's the thieves and welfare cases and drug addicts that you currently look down upon who are going to come together and prove you wrong.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

Corporate control/heavy influence of a totalitarian government. Italy under Benito “Il Duce” Mussolini or insurance companies writing the Affordable Healthcare Act under Barack “Barry-O” Obama.

I guess the main difference between Nazi Europe and the EU is the Germans reunited lost lands after WWI after the Nazis came into power and Germany reunited lost lands from WWII before the EU came into power. A little difference in timing.
edit on 7-4-2019 by Ahabstar because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 09:57 PM
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The "Scholars" of History have it wrong...😎

BIG LIAR How Theodor Adorno redefined Fascism

Fascism and Nazism are both phenomena of the left. This makes ideological sense, because at their core they represent ideologies of the centralized, all-powerful state. Moreover, fascism grew out of Marxism, and fascism’s founder Benito Mussolini, was a Marxist and lifelong socialist. Hitler, too, was a socialist who headed the National Socialist Party and in fact changed the name of the German Workers Party to make it the National Socialist German Workers Party.

How, then, did progressives in America re-define fascism and Nazism as phenomena of the right? This sleight-of-hand occurred after World War II, once fascism and Nazism were discredited with the reputation of Holocaust. Then progressives recognized it was important to cover up the leftist roots of fascism and Nazism and to move them from the left-wing column into the right-wing column.

The man most responsible for the progressive redefinition of fascism is Theodor Adorno, a German Marxist intellectual and a member of the influential Institute for Social Research, otherwise known as the Frankfurt School. The Frankfurt School scholars were leftists and most of them were refugees from Nazi Germany. Some settled in Europe; others like Adorno and Herbert Marcuse came to the United States.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 10:23 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Yep , and they are All Good at Collecting other Peoples Sheet .....



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I don’t know. Hitler really hated commies. Hated them more than Joe McCarthy did.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 10:39 PM
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a reply to: toolgal462

you are wrong, communism calls for the abolishment of Government/State, classes, monetary value etc



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: strongfp


The term "National Socialism" arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of "socialism", as an alternative to both international socialism and free market capitalism. Nazism rejected the Marxist concept of class conflict, opposed cosmopolitan internationalism, and sought to convince all parts of the new German society to subordinate their personal interests to the "common good", accepting political interests as the main priority of economic organization.



National-Socialism and Communism have nothing on common



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 10:45 PM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: toolgal462

you are wrong, communism calls for the abolishment of Government/State, classes, monetary value etc


But Grampaw Karl refers to:

"A Heavy Progressive or Graduated Income Tax" - can't have a tax if there's no government to collect 😎

and

"Confiscation of the Property of All Emigrants and Rebels" - can't confiscate property if there's no government to take it 😎

and

"Centralization of Credit in the Hands of the State, by Means of a National Bank with State Capital and an Exclusive Monopoly" - National Bank means a government must be in place 😎

Just 3 examples of the "IFocracies" 😎



posted on Apr, 8 2019 @ 01:52 AM
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originally posted by: xuenchen

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: toolgal462

you are wrong, communism calls for the abolishment of Government/State, classes, monetary value etc


But Grampaw Karl refers to:

"A Heavy Progressive or Graduated Income Tax" - can't have a tax if there's no government to collect 😎

and

"Confiscation of the Property of All Emigrants and Rebels" - can't confiscate property if there's no government to take it 😎

and

"Centralization of Credit in the Hands of the State, by Means of a National Bank with State Capital and an Exclusive Monopoly" - National Bank means a government must be in place 😎

Just 3 examples of the "IFocracies" 😎


Marx's flavor of socialism is what he thought would result in communism. He was wrong.



posted on Apr, 8 2019 @ 02:29 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Look, I am not advocating communism, as an anarchist I view communism like I view all economic systems, as an enemy of mine


Marxism was a critique of the Capitalist and class system, and a theory of worker emancipation advocating for the transitional period of socialism to eventually dissolve the "state" and arrive at communism




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