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posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 02:32 PM
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I used to argue against the Big Bang Theory from a Deistic perspective that I still somewhat have today.

The concept that I've followed at various times with variations is that a creator force, God as it's called but could be something much different than what people consider God to be, sparked the universe into creation via what we call the Big Bang Theory, but there's a lot more to it than we know or can prove, hypothesi.

The basic premise is that physics, mathematics, everything we know about science, the forces of nature, all of these perfect systems that operate without being made to that have been here since the first millisecond of the universe to the last. The systems and laws that regulate reality, that shaped the planets, caused the stars to heat up through their process, why the wind blows, why there's an atmosphere, etc. That whole operating system for lack of a better term had to have something that defined it, created it, made it so it works that way. Gravity, you get the idea. All of these things that perform actions, functions, cause this to do that which is part of a never ending chain reaction of perfect systems all coexisting and feeding into each other, since the beginning until the end and beyond the end.

Then you have to wrestle with the idea of space infinitely existing, vacuum, never being created but just.. always there for negative infinity through positive infinity of what we call time, light years, however we decided to create the measurements and define them as a certain distance, a certain number of seconds. We made all of that up. We could've designed it so that a second was what two seconds is as defined currently. If a light year is the distance that light travels in a year, what if humans decided early on that what we define as a year was a year and a half, as we define it. So a year is 500 days or something. The light year equation would be different as well. All things eventually equal but measured and called different things. All things eventually equal because they're all infinitely in the exact same perfect parameters since.. the Big Bang? Since before it? Space existed right? So it needed the laws of physics fundamentally to operate, to exist, to be what it is and do what it does, correct?

It's not who, what, or how there was "let there be light" .. how about "let there be dark", let there be infinite open space, what we call outer space that never ends. If humans ever managed to make a craft capable of travelling to the point where the universe ends, beyond the big bang, there'd be infinite nothingness of space that you could continue in a certain direction infinitely in, right? So let's say that despite their technology and medical abilities that humans have 20,000 or some years from now was deemed sufficient to reach that place and eventually return, but the humans passed away onboard. The prevailing theory is that the craft would drift further out into space beyond the big bang where there's nothing forever? 100 trillion light years from now, if the craft was designed to withstand open space infinitely?




posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: r0xor
I used to argue against the Big Bang Theory from a Deistic perspective that I still somewhat have today.

The concept that I've followed at various times with variations is that a creator force, God as it's called but could be something much different than what people consider God to be, sparked the universe into creation via what we call the Big Bang Theory, but there's a lot more to it than we know or can prove, hypothesi.

The basic premise is that physics, mathematics, everything we know about science, the forces of nature, all of these perfect systems that operate without being made to that have been here since the first millisecond of the universe to the last. The systems and laws that regulate reality, that shaped the planets, caused the stars to heat up through their process, why the wind blows, why there's an atmosphere, etc. That whole operating system for lack of a better term had to have something that defined it, created it, made it so it works that way. Gravity, you get the idea. All of these things that perform actions, functions, cause this to do that which is part of a never ending chain reaction of perfect systems all coexisting and feeding into each other, since the beginning until the end and beyond the end.

Then you have to wrestle with the idea of space infinitely existing, vacuum, never being created but just.. always there for negative infinity through positive infinity of what we call time, light years, however we decided to create the measurements and define them as a certain distance, a certain number of seconds. We made all of that up. We could've designed it so that a second was what two seconds is as defined currently. If a light year is the distance that light travels in a year, what if humans decided early on that what we define as a year was a year and a half, as we define it. So a year is 500 days or something. The light year equation would be different as well. All things eventually equal but measured and called different things. All things eventually equal because they're all infinitely in the exact same perfect parameters since.. the Big Bang? Since before it? Space existed right? So it needed the laws of physics fundamentally to operate, to exist, to be what it is and do what it does, correct?

It's not who, what, or how there was "let there be light" .. how about "let there be dark", let there be infinite open space, what we call outer space that never ends. If humans ever managed to make a craft capable of travelling to the point where the universe ends, beyond the big bang, there'd be infinite nothingness of space that you could continue in a certain direction infinitely in, right? So let's say that despite their technology and medical abilities that humans have 20,000 or some years from now was deemed sufficient to reach that place and eventually return, but the humans passed away onboard. The prevailing theory is that the craft would drift further out into space beyond the big bang where there's nothing forever? 100 trillion light years from now, if the craft was designed to withstand open space infinitely?


yeah this was a great one, but space doesn't need the laws of physics to exist. It simply exists. It has always existed. Space is just space. Everything else was really good!



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 08:18 PM
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a reply to: EraTera2

Thanks!

One other thing I like to consider is this:

Space is infinite in all directions, nothingness. I used to say "Something had to create nothingness as an infinite space for everything to exist in" ie; the universe. You need a sandbox to put sand in etc, but I'm willing to accept that it just is and always was infinitely in all directions. There doesn't need to be a space for space to not exist, just be in that has boundaries. Admittedly that's one thing my mind could never wrap around.

So as I was saying, I like to consider the possibility that Big Bangs from dense singularities that create universes are spread throughout that.. um.. vast vastness of infinity. If so, that's a grip of matter, an infinite amount, weighing bizillions of millions of trillions of tons plus infinity. You could never add up in weight the infinite amount of matter. That's a lot of matter to just be existing just because it happens when.. everything pops out of nothing that sits in infinite nothing really fast.. infinitely.



posted on Apr, 8 2019 @ 05:15 AM
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a reply to: EraTera2

what your all over the place,my advice leave them shrooms alone



posted on Apr, 9 2019 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: Oldtimer2

all over the place ... like infinity ...



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