You who still accept the bible also accept the number of the beast

originally posted by: Claymation213
The mark, the name, or the number, is 666 spelled out with the first letter a capital S. And it is spelled out originally in the bible.

Could it be that God placed a test on man, to where if you, as as individual, still accept the bible, past a certain point, you will be damned by it?

I learned to accept God (the female One) minus the bible. The bible has been a very fishy book to say the least.

I'm pretty sure, that the reason the S is capital, is because the number is the name also. Six hundred threescore and six is a name, number, and mark, that has been in the bible from the get go. The bible is received, because you receive it with your right hand. And when you read it you receive it in your foreheads.

My advice to you all who still accept that very fishy bible, is to reject it now, and just accept God (God being male or female depends on the believer. And yeah, I happen to believe God to be female).

Don't let the bible stay as your go to book anymore, if it is how you, in the first place, receive the mark, name, or number of the beast.

So let me get this, your female deity is so twisted and corrupt she has given mankind a book that lies to humanity and wants to condemn people by leading them astray. Hidden esoteric wisdom to fool everyone, sounds like your goddess is some kind of brain character from Pinky and the Brain.

Here is my opinion, God (asexual) is going to end all the suffering by sending Jesus, we choose Him or not. When the world gets so bad and people so evil Jesus returns for those who love Him. Justice is given and people will find out their fate

As for the mark, literally a mark on the hand or head allowing people to trade, like currency, just like the bible states. Nothing tricky at all, simple and clear
One world government and one world cashless society all serving the antichrist who pretends to be a god

I just don’t get how evil your choice of God is tonwant to fool people with lies in the bible

It sounds to me like the person who thinks they're too cool for school and rejecting the mark by not believing in it is actually believing in it.

You got caught in the trap.

Wav Wav Wav.

Wav is the sixth letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Three sixes in a row looks like the Shin/Sin symbol. The shin symbol is on the Tefillin. The deceiver is the three Wavs which somewhat looks like the Shin/Sin symbol.

God put his sign on the forehead of Cain to protect him when he was cast out. Sin is considered bad, but actually Sin is a holy symbol. W..The first letter of our word Wisdom, but shin or sin is an S or Sh sound like a snake hiss. I do not understand how beliefs got so distorted over the years, we were led to fear things we should not fear. Well, depends on if there is a snake behind the Sssss. sound I suppose.

a reply to: Claymation213

Well, you know that the passage to which you're referring (666, mark of the beast) was written in Greek, right? So, is it the letter S in Greek, or are you using English for the first letter? Because if you're using English, your premise is incorrect then.

originally posted by: Claymation213
I learned to accept God (the female One) minus the bible. The bible has been a very fishy book to say the least.

Omg.. are you even serious? You're a feminist guy, which I'm not even getting into but it speaks volumes.

THEN you have the nerve to keep using the adjective fishy to describe things?

Your make believe Mother Goddess Everything whatever smells fishier than a book. Book smell like dust, paper, and stale. Mark of the Beast isn't even a thing, you're grasping for something and spinning bs to try to define it because it's apocalyptic, end of the world, God vs Satan rubbish some dudes made up to add onto what Jesus said. She's bi polar and emotionally unstable, you can't go with that just because it has charisma, beauty, and makes children.

Obviously she hasn't done a very good job has she?! Maybe she is real after all. She doesn't need a man either, oh no, she creates all by herself thus women are made after her image and men are an added necessity to procreate. This sounds familiar, I could've swore that God is referred to and seen as a "him" and "he" a lot, always in the past when all of the sacred religious books were written. Women were extra right? Made out of a rib so man wouldn't be lonely and die alone?

But dude, some guy named John that was exiled to a miserable little island for the rest of his life alone and visions because he was nuts from isolation and dramatic.. and stuff like that. What he thought he knew was so real and drilled into his life, head, emotion and being that his hallucinations were of it, duh. Ever had hallucinations? From drugs, maybe stress, extreme lack of sleep, other weird # that happens? Even though you don't know it, in a way you theme them to fit your perception of reality because they're built on what's already inside of your mind, cemented from your life that you put there.

Ever stop to think that the real mark of the beast might be the ideological mark left by religions in general? If there's a god at all, my bet is that being wise enough to reject organized religious systems is the pass/fail litmus test.

Just an atheist point of view, because if I was a god trying to separate my wheat & chaff, that's how I'd gauge who was worthy or not -- logical reasoning skills. I'd consider those that fail to grasp the concept of being fooled with a mortal's written word faulty makes. Scrap that mold, it obviously needs reworked.

a reply to: Nyiah

Makes far more sense to think that the mark is something like China's social credit system mixed with a cashless society where the system controls your access to everything, surveils you, and curtails your access based on your behaviors, and all are forced to take a chip in head or hand in order to be linked in.

That spells widespread societal control on an unprecedented scale.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Nyiah

Makes far more sense to think that the mark is something like China's social credit system mixed with a cashless society where the system controls your access to everything, surveils you, and curtails your access based on your behaviors, and all are forced to take a chip in head or hand in order to be linked in.

That spells widespread societal control on an unprecedented scale.

Yes to that. It's the only way I've ever had visions of it. And when I used to be into Christianity, spirituality, the Bible, and all of the conspiracies, gnosticism, new age stuff related to it, that's what I'd see. A credit card with your health and medical information, as well as your criminal history, basic history of you, some details about your anatomy that you probably didn't know about. Then it became the 21st century and I had visions of chips.

I used to read "right hand or forehead" and I'd think, "You hold a card in your right hand because most people are right handed, or you know the numbers of the card, thus on or in your forehead. But when technology came out and stuff like that happened, everyone fantasized and doom porned on embedded microchips because hey, its not in your hand or forehead figuratively, it's literally in your hand and forehead, and it can hold info, and be updated wirelessly with credits.

What happens when your mark of the beast chip ends up being defective, dies, accidently gets removed from an injury or accident? Antichrist squad tracks you down in a scary, dramatic fashion, and takes you into custody to get a new one? You can't buy or sell without the mark because your hand was mutilated in a car accident so you starve. Illegal immigrants cant even get a mark of the beast chip, they wish they could and eat trash and forage in the southwest for food in the summer months. Can't even buy a fake one for a few thousand U.S. dollars sent from their cartel and gang families back home.

Regardless of your feelings about the Bible, according to the last book in the Bible, 666 is the number, or name, of the wild beast with seven heads and ten horns that comes out of the sea. (Revelation 13:​1, 17, 18) This beast is a symbol of the worldwide political system, which rules over “every tribe and people and tongue and nation.” (Revelation 13:7) The name 666 identifies the political system as a gross failure in God’s sight. How?

More than a label. Names given by God have meaning. For example, God gave the man Abram, which means “Father Is High (Exalted),” the name Abraham, which means “Father of a Crowd (Multitude),” when God promised that He would make Abraham “a father of many nations.” (Genesis 17:5) Likewise, God named the beast 666 as a symbol of its defining attributes.

The number six implies imperfection. Often, numbers are used as symbols in the Bible. Seven typically represents completeness or perfection. Six, being one short of seven, can denote something incomplete or flawed in God’s eyes, and it can be associated with God’s enemies.​—1 Chronicles 20:6; Daniel 3:1.

Three times for emphasis. The Bible sometimes stresses a matter by stating it three times. (Revelation 4:8; 8:​13) So the name 666 powerfully emphasizes that God views human political systems as gross failures. They have been unable to bring lasting peace and security​—things that only God’s Kingdom will achieve.

The mark of the beast (which is not the same thing as the name or number of this particular beast):

The Bible says that people receive “the mark of the wild beast” because they follow it “with admiration,” to the point of worshipping it. (Revelation 13:​3, 4; 16:2) They do this by giving worshipful honor to their country, its symbols, or its military might. As The Encyclopedia of Religion states: “Nationalism has become a dominant form of religion in the modern world.” (See also Nationalism in a Global Era, page 134, and Nationalism and the Mind: Essays on Modern Culture, page 94.)

News columnist Joseph Kraft wrote concerning Einstein’s views on nationalism: “[Einstein] set an example in renouncing nationalism. ‘I never identified myself with any particular country,’ he once wrote. He called nationalism ‘an infantile disease . . . the measles of the human race.’” Nearly everybody gets it at one time or another, and it continues to spread. Back in 1946, British historian Arnold Toynbee wrote: “Patriotism . . . has very largely superseded Christianity as the religion of the Western World.”

Similarly, in a letter to the editor of Bombay’s “Indian Express” newspaper, an Indian man stated: “I do not believe in patriotism. It is an opium innovated by the politicians to serve their ugly ends. It is for their prosperity. It is for their betterment. It is for their aggrandizement. It is never for the country. It is never for the nation. It is never never for common men and women like you and I. . . . This sinister politician-invented wall shall divide man from man​—and brother from brother; till one day it shall bring about man’s doom by man. Patriotism or nationalism, to my mind, is an idiotic exercise in artificial loyalty. . . . I take no hypocritical pride in being petty this or that. I belong to mankind.”

Philippine educator Primo L. Tongko observes that “national anthems and national flags have frequently given rise to a very questionable human motive of extreme or blind love of country, they have tended to make people fanatically nationalistic, so much so that sometimes they have not been ashamed even to say, ‘My country right or wrong.’”

One dictionary defines nationalism as “a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations.” Ivo Duchacek, a professor of political science, observed in his book Conflict and Cooperation Among Nations: “Nationalism divides humanity into mutually intolerant units. As a result people think as Americans, Russians, Chinese, Egyptians, or Peruvians first, and as human beings second​—if at all.” A former UN secretary-general wrote: “So many of the problems that we face today are due to, or the result of, false attitudes​—some of them have been adopted almost unconsciously. Among these is the concept of narrow nationalism​—‘my country, right or wrong.’”

“Nationalism’s chief symbol of faith and central object of worship is the flag, and curious liturgical forms have been devised for ‘saluting’ the flag, for ‘dipping’ the flag, for ‘lowering’ the flag, and for ‘hoisting’ the flag. Men bare their heads when the flag passes by; and in praise of the flag poets write odes and children sing hymns.”​—What Americans Believe and How They Worship (1952), by J. Paul Williams, pages 359, 360.

“Twenty-five years ago this June,” observes the Catholic Jesuit magazine America, “Americans piously inserted the phrase ‘under God’ into the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.” In reflecting on the reason for this move, America says that “most who supported the change in wording (and there were few who did not) frankly admitted that the inclusion of God was a political, not a religious, act.” In those days of fervent anti-Communism, notes the article, “the Catholic War Veterans of Wayne County, Mich., resolved that letting God into the Pledge would give ‘additional meaning to the spiritual defense of our nation.’ God . . . was being recalled to active duty.”

The significance of this was expressed by one religious writer of the time who said that, by putting God into the pledge, America was “adopting a God of war who appears as a nationalistic deity directing bombs and bullets into the hearts of our enemies.” Observes “America”: “Quite simply, the nation was afraid of the future, and it tried to meet this fear by having its children parrot in singsong fashion just how good it actually was. The Pledge was to be a spiritual boot [military training] camp for babes.”

Do you want your children to learn about a nationalistic “God of war” or, rather, about the “God of peace” as revealed in the Bible? (Phil. 4:9) America draws this conclusion: “The phrase ‘under God’ is the concrete symbol of what was, 25 years ago, and may still be, the established American religion: worship of the state. We ought to drop it.”​—June 9, 1979, pp. 469, 470.

Nationalism and religion often go together. Wrote Dr. Robert L. Kahn, a rabbi: “Religion and Nationalism always tend to go hand in hand. In times of war, particularly, . . . ‘For God and Country’ becomes a sort of battle cry. This has always been so. [In World War II] one of the popular songs was the war-whoop of a chaplain, ‘Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition.”’

How is the mark of the beast placed on someone’s right hand or forehead? (Revelation 13:16) Regarding his commands to the nation of Israel, God said: “Bind them as a reminder on your hand, and they should be like a headband on your forehead.” (Deuteronomy 11:18) This meant, not that the Israelites were to mark their literal hands and foreheads, but that God’s words would guide all their actions and thoughts. Likewise, rather than being something literal such as a microchip, the mark of the beast symbolically identifies those who let the political system rule their lives. Those with the mark of the beast place themselves in opposition to God.​—Revelation 14:​9, 10; 19:19-​21.

originally posted by: whereislogic
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The Bible says that people receive “the mark of the wild beast” because they follow it “with admiration,” to the point of worshipping it. (Revelation 13:​3, 4; 16:2) They do this by giving worshipful honor to their country, its symbols, or its military might. As The Encyclopedia of Religion states: “Nationalism has become a dominant form of religion in the modern world.” (See also Nationalism in a Global Era, page 134, and Nationalism and the Mind: Essays on Modern Culture, page 94.)

...Back in 1946, British historian Arnold Toynbee wrote: “Patriotism . . . has very largely superseded Christianity as the religion of the Western World.”
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“Nationalism’s chief symbol of faith and central object of worship is the flag, and curious liturgical forms have been devised for ‘saluting’ the flag, for ‘dipping’ the flag, for ‘lowering’ the flag, and for ‘hoisting’ the flag. Men bare their heads when the flag passes by; and in praise of the flag poets write odes and children sing hymns.”​—What Americans Believe and How They Worship (1952), by J. Paul Williams, pages 359, 360.

“Twenty-five years ago this June,” observes the Catholic Jesuit magazine America, “Americans piously inserted the phrase ‘under God’ into the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag.” ... America draws this conclusion: “The phrase ‘under God’ is the concrete symbol of what was, 25 years ago, and may still be, the established American religion: worship of the state. We ought to drop it.”​—June 9, 1979, pp. 469, 470.

Nationalism and religion often go together. Wrote Dr. Robert L. Kahn, a rabbi: “Religion and Nationalism always tend to go hand in hand. In times of war, particularly, . . . ‘For God and Country’ becomes a sort of battle cry. This has always been so. [In World War II] one of the popular songs was the war-whoop of a chaplain, ‘Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition.”’
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Historical evidence indicates that the first Christians did not involve themselves in political affairs. As Jesus said of them: “They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.” (John 17:16) Rather, they shared a common allegiance to a heavenly government, God’s Kingdom. New York educators Eugene A. Colligan and Maxwell F. Littwin said regarding them in the book From the Old World to the New: “They preferred the Kingdom of God to any kingdom that they might serve on earth.”

In this respect early Christians followed closely the example set by Jesus Christ. (John 6:15; 18:36) Note how textbooks comment on the neutral position Christ’s early followers took toward political affairs:

“Early Christianity was little understood and was regarded with little favor by those who ruled the pagan world. . . . Christians refused to share certain duties of Roman citizens. . . . They would not hold political office.”​—On the Road to Civilization, A World History (1937), by Albert K. Heckel and James G. Sigman, pages 237, 238.

“The Roman government called the Christians enemies of the state. They would not serve in the Roman army. They refused to salute the emperor’s statue, which meant the same to Roman society that a nation’s flag does to citizens today. They were loyal only to their religion.”​—Man—​His World and Cultures (1974), by Edith McCall, Evalyn Rapparlie and Jack Spatafora, pages 67, 68.

Of course, many people do not consider the flag sacred or that saluting it is an act of worship. However, consider what secular authorities say about this:

“The flag, like the cross, is sacred. . . . The rules and regulations relative to human attitude toward national standards use strong, expressive words, as, ‘Service to the Flag,’ . . . ‘Reverence for the Flag,’ ‘Devotion to the Flag.’”​—The Encyclopedia Americana (1942), Volume 11, page 316.

And as earlier quoted but worth repeating in this context:

“Nationalism’s chief symbol of faith and central object of worship is the flag, and curious liturgical forms have been devised for ‘saluting’ the flag, for ‘dipping’ the flag, for ‘lowering’ the flag, and for ‘hoisting’ the flag. Men bare their heads when the flag passes by; and in praise of the flag poets write odes and children sing hymns.”​—What Americans Believe and How They Worship (1952), by J. Paul Williams, pages 359, 360.

Others have also expressed an understanding of the position that the flag salute is related to worship, as the following comments show:

“Christians refused to . . . sacrifice to the [Roman] emperor’s genius​—roughly equivalent today to refusing to salute the flag or repeat the oath of allegiance.”​—Those About to Die (1958), by Daniel P. Mannix, page 135.

“The key assumption is that saluting a flag constitutes an act of religious devotion. . . . This view, while odd, is not entirely without biblical support. . . . If saluting is a religious act, then it is forbidden by God’s law however worthy the object of respect. In other words, refusal to salute need imply no disrespect for flag or country.”​—Render Unto Caesar, The Flag-Salute Controversy (1962), David R. Manwaring, assistant professor of political science, Hobart and William Smith Colleges, page 32.

A national anthem often is, in effect, a hymn or a prayer set to music. The Encyclopedia Americana (1956) says: “Love of fatherland and pride in one’s country are the keynotes of most national anthems, and in many, religious feeling is blended with patriotic sentiment.” Actually, patriotic songs express the same fundamental ideas that are embodied in the pledge of allegiance to the flag. And since there is no Scriptural basis for the nationalistic pride that has so divided our world, true Christians who have not received the mark of the beast do not join in singing songs that extol any earthly nation.​—Acts 17:26; John 17:15, 16.

Song 141 Searching for Friends of Peace (with lyrics)

Now that's a song worth singing, and it trains your mind for things that are good and wholesome rather than this form of brainwashing and indoctrination with the harmful nationalism and patriotism that divides this world (as eplained in some of my previous quotations):

Pardon the dubious title, not my choice.

Nationalism is well described by the psalmist’s expression, “the pestilence causing adversities.” (Psalm 91:3) It has been like a plague on humanity, leading to untold suffering. Nationalism with its resultant hatred of other peoples has existed for centuries. Today, nationalism continues to fan the flames of divisiveness, and human rulers have not been able to stop it.

Jorge Luis Borges, renowned Argentinian writer and poet, said that nationalism is dividing the world, adding: “In this sense, it is the arch-villain of all the evils. It divides people, it destroys the good side of human nature, it leads to inequality in the distribution of wealth.”

Many authorities recognize that nationalism and self-interest are the root of the world’s problems. God’s Word, the Bible, correctly describes the result of all human rule, saying: “Man has dominated man to his injury.” (Ecclesiastes 8:9) God is the rightful Sovereign to whom all should look for rulership. By pursuing their own sovereignties, the nations are working against his will.​—Psalm 2:2.

a reply to: Claymation213

2nd commandment -honor no symbol or graven image in my name etc,etc.

Definition of graven image - an object of worship carved usually from wood or stone.

This obsession with the cross also on their bibles and hanging from their necks on their tombstones etc etc is 666 in full scale recruitment in plain view. If people just read the 10 commandments and applied those the obvious truth of the great deception would materialize, talk about ignorance !.

So yes "reject the bible"- and almost anything related. ESPECIALLY THE CROSS ITSELF. A symbol of death, torture, suffering and deterance. Even though jesus suffered on this thing the commandments are clear.

Duh to most. Eh.

E Pluribus Unum... Federal endorsement of a deity or a religion violates the US Constitution. The Beast has been around since the Federal Reserve was created, those that worship their money are followers of the Beast! (ftr I have read the "bible" a couple of times, the gnostic gospels, the mahabharata, and studied several other religions of the world as well.)

Did anyone ever think the mark on the hand might have been like a warning. If they knew back then you could slit your wrists , a near fatal head injury? It's very descriptive and in a world without tv back then maybe children were attacked by soldier s or something . The new episodes of the x files said the werewolf mythology came from people you used to get rabies. If people couldn't grow in full beards?

a reply to: Firebrand1105volunteer

I did a little research, and this is what I found:
wikipedia: Werewolf#Remedies

In medieval Europe, traditionally, there are three methods one can use to cure a victim of werewolfism; medicinally (usually via the use of wolfsbane), surgically, or by exorcism. However, many of the cures advocated by medieval medical practitioners proved fatal to the patients. A Sicilian belief of Arabic origin holds that a werewolf can be cured of its ailment by striking it on the forehead or scalp with a knife. Another belief from the same culture involves the piercing of the werewolf's hands with nails. Sometimes, less extreme methods were used. In the German lowland of Schleswig-Holstein, a werewolf could be cured if one were to simply address it three times by its Christian name, while one Danish belief holds that merely scolding a werewolf will cure it.

That Danish scolding method is reported as maybe unreliable by Wikipedia, but here's a story:

One night four teenage friends were hanging out late at night after a little league baseball game got over. All the players and fans had left and the lights got turned out.

One of the friends turned to another and said, "Man, you're turning into a Dracula or something!"

But when the transforming friend felt his face; it wasn't any vampire change. He noticed thick hair was growing. Then he saw it growing on his arms too. He was just getting ready to run and hide, because it's way embarrassing to turn into a werewolf while people are watching.

Luckily another one of the friends looked and yelled, "Holy #!" That stopped it, and he went back to normal.

So the Danish method may have some validity after all.
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I wouldn't worry about the lack of full beard. I had a brother in law who lived a long normal life without one. He did have a truck he was working on slip it's jack once. It smashed his face rather badly and left permanently wrecked sinuses. Pretty nasty when he caught colds.

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Thanks this is a topic that interests me greatly , what the world was like back then like 300. I was just writing about zombies and thinking about vampires and eternal youth. I tried not to or hide it was me. I can grow a full beard but it takes about 6 weeks to two months. Not very thick some areas. I never knew that was possible. Makes me think of comics Todd McFarlane had a character Spawn and men went to hell women went to heaven. Angel backwards is legna. Makes you think of all depiction's of the devil this huge animal guy like Labyrinth prison population . I used to think what if it was conscience every decision good or bad. Angel wings or devils horn.

a reply to: Claymation213

Sounds like another case of one being taught the new math someone with an opinion giving their 2 cents,some people study these facts all their lives and give their opinions,but they deal with facts,bet you are a flat earther as well

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: Claymation213

Brother or Sister, There is one and only one path to salvation. Yeshua Hamashiach (Jesus Christ).

Only fools would pursue salvation, that accomplishes nothing but more of the same.

Something totally new is required, and salvation is waving the white flag.

Except the original Greek it is 616...

6 each of the three components of carbon.

Oustanding idea.


Noice. I like that. I will be sharing that thought with othes IRL.

thank you for that clever thought.
Here's hoping it isn't overlooked in this very randomly progressing thread.
Very , very nice.

You know Satan and Lucifer aren’t bad angels...they just have a job to do.