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A new American civil war

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posted on Apr, 6 2019 @ 08:41 PM
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originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: JBurns

What Im about to suggest would be done through a constitutional, legal process. I would never condone disorganized, vigilante actions. That only causes confusion and chaos. But I actually believe we could legally classify at Least 5 or 10 million Americans as traitors who can be legally punished.

Take your average SJW Activist. How do you think they would behave if a sting operation were set up to see if they will side with, say, Mexico, agaisnt their own country?

So, yeah, I do believe we could legally swoop up large numbers of traitors. So with that being said:

I'm done trying to argue and be nice. Throw the sobs in a FEMA labor camp to learn the value of a hard days work. Thats the only thing that will get through to them and wake them up from this useless dream.

Its not that I Want to. Hell no. I wouldve hoped that logic and reason would win the day... I just dont see any other choice cause theyre just gonna keep destorying our country till there's nothing left... and lets face it, in every arena, they are weaker than us. We could do it. I've ALREADY lost more than I'm willing to give up of my country!

If the government doesnt do Something about the traitorous scum, then, eventually, people like me who are actually the level headed of the bunch, wont have the ability, the time, nor the desire to try to stop the vigilantes who havent thought things through but want to see some action and some change. The vigilante way is not preferable...but...when its all over, the result will technically be the same: Traitors go bye bye.


THIS GUY: I'm the most level headed person out there

ALSO THIS GUY: we should legally trick hundreds of thousands of people into saying they support mexico and then use that as an excuse to throw them in fema camps because they're traitorous scum for daring to have a different opinion than me im very smart



....godamn seriously i got to this post and had to go have a lie down, i just couldn't keep forcing on through the thread. gotta be the most ATS thing i've read since.... uhh... since the OP decided Christchurch Shooter is a neat aesthetic to model his life on




posted on Apr, 6 2019 @ 10:14 PM
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a reply to: continuousThunder

Working to install a socialist farce, subvert our country or nullify the Constitution is treason.

Camps are getting off easy.

Personally, any public figure or key player should meet the end of a rope.

The voters were conned. So I guess they'd get a free pass?

Then again, I'm not the arbiter of what happens. Just a concerned American ready to defend my way of life and my Constitution if it comes to that.



posted on Apr, 6 2019 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: continuousThunder

Read Article 4 Section 4 US Constitution

We won't tolerate socialism. All forms of government other than a Republic are unconstitutional.

We also won't tolerate any further infringement of our unalienable Constitutional rights. I don't care what the excuse or rationalization is, it will absolutely, 100% for certain cause an immediate armed conflict. That isn't a threat it is reality.



posted on Apr, 6 2019 @ 10:32 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

dude chill with the regulation reference propaganda already - i'm not an american and i have zero interest in reading your constitution, especially when clinging to it so tightly is such a blatant facade.

all's i'm saying, and you don't need any special knowledge of american rules to see this, is you write like a dang psychopath. you need to get yourself a nice warm bubble bath, take up a soothing hobby like crochet or painting or something, get yourself out of this hate bubble, and stop raging on the internet about how badly you want to kill people you've never met.
Not for other people's sake, i can't see you managing to do any damage in the real world, but for your own. so you don't give yourself a stroke in the next six months.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 12:40 AM
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a reply to: continuousThunder

I think only people who are looking in can see that.
He really does want to test those guns out....how many threads now insinuating violence? 3? 4?.
We in the UK are really divided at the moment but you don't here of call for violence because people have a different viewpoint.
Bonkers...



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 07:32 AM
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originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: DBCowboy



“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

Warren Buffett

And who is supposed to argue with that?


So, why doesn't he give up being rich, and lift others up with his wealth? Does he pay his secretary far more than the average?


You should know, Daddy Secretary. Tell us!

Maybe that's why you think twice about starting a class-warfare? Your regular oligarch cretin really shouldn't have to fight a sore conscience while snorting the CIA_dust from the face in the mirror.

Kids, don't try this at home! This is the mud-pit, and my captor want's me to wage this glorious war on stupid wars with all the means at our disposal.


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posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

The hell did I just read?

Maybe take a break from the liquor or ATS, or both.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: MyToxicTash

Yes, and as a result your government/lawmakers are subverting the mandate to leave the EU

See what happens when you don't go there?

It isn't negotiable here. Either our Constitution will be respected and enforced or we will repeal/replace until a group is in power that will respect it and stop trying to cram BS globalist kumbaya unwanted ideology down our throats. we don't have to accept that trash, and I know I sure won't.

If you consider that violence, then so be it. Liberty has never come without a price. Usually that price is the blood of patriots and tyrants. Tired of playing coy and beating around the bush playing cute little games with these people. The days of them working in the open to subvert our rights or nullify the Constitution are over. The days of them attacking our people in the streets with impunity are over. The PC stuff is done

The gloves are off, and it is time to get serious. The next move is entirely up to them.
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posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: SailorJerry


This coming from the guy who constantly brags about his MMA training and what he would do in situations with people.

You should probably look in a mirror.


funny
you are thinking of someone else

all those stars for a lie of a post

i have never bragged about mma training because i have never trained mma

i also never say what i would do in situations cause i think it is lame and i laugh at all those who do.

matter of fact it is the opposite.

i say how i would not get involved and then people talk # about that too.

any more lies?



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Yeah I think you will do # tbh. All talk laughable tbh. I just hope you don't shoot up some place one day.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 02:02 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: continuousThunder

Read Article 4 Section 4 US Constitution

We won't tolerate socialism. All forms of government other than a Republic are unconstitutional.

We also won't tolerate any further infringement of our unalienable Constitutional rights. I don't care what the excuse or rationalization is, it will absolutely, 100% for certain cause an immediate armed conflict. That isn't a threat it is reality.


Have you checked the definition of a republican government as defined by the Constitution?

It doesn't mean "rule by Republicans."

It means "a form of government where the citizens elect representatives to serve for them in the government." (see Wikipedia or any dictionary). So you can have a socialist government that's a Republic or a Calvanist republic or even a Buddhist republic or Islamic republic. You can have mercantile republics.

Seriously. The Founding Fathers weren't against socialism.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
The gloves are off, and it is time to get serious. The next move is entirely up to them.

Since you say they continue to "subvert our rights or nullify the Constitution" it would seem the next move is yours.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 03:43 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

You need to also consider the notion that any American civil war that did take unfortunately happen to take place would ensure the US being back of the bus on the world political stage, and not being taken seriously by any other first world self-respecting nation for the foreseeable future.

Chances are if there was ever to be another American civil war a significant part of your nation would be glowing in the dark for the next few thousand years.

The knock on effect to the rest of the world would also be rather significant and probably provoke financial chaos ta boot.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 04:55 PM
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Hi All

what is being said is a load of rubbish, Its been put together by a disenfranchised desk jockey who has been left behind by life. Society has evolved and way beyond his comprehension, hence yhis inability to keep up. He is likely to poorly understand and relate to his wife and children. He wants to propagate violence and to peddle hate. I suggest he opens his eyes and learn the beauty around him rather then spewing hate... and you have the nerve to call your self a patriot, what utter rubbish. You're not even a conservative. time to accept reality rather then trying to get back an existence that never was! Why not focus on real issues, protection for the worker, basic health care, the environment, these are better wars to fight.... honest the nerve of some people who falsely call them selves patriots and conservatives!



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 05:17 PM
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Yeah, it would an international embarrassment for a first world country that claims to be for the people having open battles. Kinda like France and the yellow vests that want less taxes and more spending cuts. I mean that sounds like the ravings of loons. Everyone wants higher taxes and unlimited frivolous spending by their government that rules by edicts



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 10:48 PM
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More than anything I think we conservatives can blame ourselves for not speaking up at every opportunity whenever the forces of progressivism agitate for change. Out of fear many of us have kept quiet rather than disagreeing, knowing an argument will inevitably ensue. We have to tolerate their chaotic ramblings and outbursts and force them to give rational, logical reasoning for things they desire. That is their weakness as everything they promote they do by manipulating emotions, never by reason or evidence.

You are quite right on all points OP except I would argue the Comintern has been agitating worldwide now for almost 100 years and many of the philosophical ideas date back further still. I fear with our educational system and current culture that there won't be many people capable of rational thought and it's only getting worse with time. I'd like to have faith in my fellow man to do right but after 60 years of watching I've come to expect the worst in the end.



posted on Apr, 7 2019 @ 11:39 PM
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a reply to: Ansuzrune

Hmm! You could be right, in fact are. So ya, I would say 40s to 60s instead. But! If your in your 70s and still so overly concerned with the dog and pony show. Then its way past time to grow up at least once in your life, and before you kick the bucket.

As for Trump, I dont see what the big deal is, but considering his opposition, its like a no contest there. And if his opposition is the same come 2020. Well ya, duh, best candidate for the job.



posted on Apr, 8 2019 @ 01:37 AM
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a reply to: Sintilate

Laughable. I am keeping up just fine, just don't feel the need to reply until some lyin' commie comes along


I suggest your radical communist ideology go back underground where it belongs. I heard the ghost of Sen. Joe McCarthy shuffling around


Why not focus on real issues, protection for the worker, basic health care, the environment, these are better wars to fight..


Because nobody gives a hoot about that nonsense. If you don't like your job, quit. The environment is fine, climate whatnot is a several hundred year problem and its very unlikely mere humans can have any impact on it anyhow. Healthcare is an individual, personal matter not my responsible to provide for you. That is your employer's job. Better wars to fight include 1) thwarting commies at every possible avenue of infiltration and 2) defending our unalienable rights against commies who seek to subvert them or for any unwanted change on the rest of us

This isn't the USSR or some other sissie dump country, this is the United States of America. If you think we're just going to step out of the way peacefully while you all subvert our way of life and infiltrate our societies you are sadly mistaken. Many are reluctant to say this because the prevailing climate isn't *quite* there yet. But I'm an old man and I really do not give two cents

I said it 100 times and I'll say it again

You know where the line in the sand is. If you all are that confident, go ahead and try to cross it. It will only hasten the inevitable.

You have the nerve to say the word patriot? A patriot stands willingly in the way of the enemy's line. You don't think I know what kind of risk I'm taking posting this kind of material in today's climate? Probably on a list somewhere for this alone. I post using my real name and make no effort to hide my true feelings on the matter. And I still don't care because my country is worth it. Every last bit of it. THAT is patriotism. Remember, Washington Jefferson and Adams were called extremists and criminals by another group of tyrants.

But I can promise you this: my girls *will* have the same liberties and opportunities as I had. It is their birthright as American Citizens. And I will do whatever it takes to make sure they aren't the ones having to fight and sacrifice 5, 10 or 20 years down the road.
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posted on Apr, 8 2019 @ 01:49 AM
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a reply to: daskakik

Not at all

The default and current position is one of liberty

Your move if you want to change the status quo go ahead

We know you want to, what is stopping you all? You've been trying, you say? We know.... and yet the flag still flies high and waves free. So long as that is true we will know communism has not disgraced this land.

Now it is late and I have to ritually summon the Ghost of Joe McCarthy in council with HUAC
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posted on Apr, 8 2019 @ 01:53 AM
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originally posted by: JBurns
You know where the line in the sand is. If you all are that confident, go ahead and try to cross it. It will only hasten the inevitable.

According to you they crossed it and have been doing the cha-cha on it for decades.

The only inevitable end is that all the old folk are going to die and the younger generations will remodel and redecorate this place to their liking.


Washington Jefferson and Adams were called extremists and criminals by another group of tyrants.

Yeah and they didn't just complain about it on the webz.



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