A new American civil war

a reply to: daskakik

I would rather see you do one on term limits for Congress than guns but same process. Even to make the official presidential uniform a pink tutu.

a reply to: Ahabstar

Cool but actually trying to get anything changed wasn't part of my point.

It wasn't about using the process but pointing out that the process actually exists and requires a very low percent of the population to effect changes.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JBurns


What happens if the pro-Constitutionalists lose?

Don't worry. Libs only openly attack statues, smirking children, and the elderly.

a reply to: JBurns
Again. It happens from time to time, it seems. There are two groups it generally happens with, those between the ages of 15 to 20, you know the stick it to the man phase. And well older folks who finally figured out that things are changing, age group 40s to 50, its almost the reverse of the sticking it to the man phase but not quite. As for anybody older then 60 years, Well generally because once you get to your 60s you dont care about much anymore. Maybe bingo night, or who knows.

Oh ya, been waiting for this so called civil war for a long time now. Still has not happened, it almost makes me want to join in. Maybe egg a few of these chumps on, and maybe just to thin out the herd a little, to much chatter going on, a war here and there can be a good thing, kind of like how a forest fire from time to time is good for the forest.

But nah! But in all, this left vs right is as old as red vs blue, and that is as old as mankind. The rest? Its just propaganda and people who are to easily influenced by things such as TV and the shows there in.

There is an old Roman saying, in fact a direct quote from Julius Caesar "Divide and Conquer" And that's the entirety of the quote, because nothing more need be said.

But hey! If something keeps working don't fix it right? Besides, relying on a piece of paper, or a government to solve problems, is not only a silly idea, it is also highly illogical. Its like introducing a whole bunch more complicated parts into a machine hoping that it would make things run smoother, but in reality your also introducing a bunch of unnecessary parts that will create a bunch of unnecessary problems. It is the way of things.

And for the past few years, or more then few years, that seems to be the struggle in American politics and life. Such a small problem indeed. America, an experiment in progress.

Or as ol George Carlin says, maybe you should look at your similarities instead of your differences, here is one for instance, both sides seem to think that there right. Funny I know, its like it has never occurred to them that they could both be wrong. Boy are they all going to be in trouble once the tests stop and cease to be multiple choice tests.

Throughout history anytime their is too much of an influx of foreigners that assimilation didint work and the country needs to translate for them, instead of learning the native language has problems.

Wait until the real citizens start to suffer. Who do you think they will take it out on?

The people never supposed to be there who took their jobs, have killed their fellow citizens, and cost tax payers millions in jailing them.

Gee I wonder.....

And the illegals will have no problem, they will just "go back home'

a reply to: Ahabstar
Thank you my bad!! I sometimes get to excited in thought versus what I type.

a reply to: daskakik

It takes one non-officeholder or none if an officeholder originated the idea for an amendment. But all votes at the federal and the state levels are by officeholders, not the people directly unless a particular state decides to require a popular vote on the matter.

Fun fact, the majority of the attendees at Woodstock protesting the war and the man could not legally vote because at that time the voting age was 21 for federal positions. But they could purchase and consume beer because that was 18 at the time, just not wine and spirits. The other stuff available there was already illegal, even though the War on Drugs was decades away.

a reply to: galadofwarthethird

"As for anybody older then 60 years, Well generally because once you get to your 60s you dont care about much anymore. Maybe bingo night, or who knows."

Well I am 62 and active. I cowboy action shoot and do a bit of long range shooting. I agree I probably can't carry a 70lb back pack 20 miles but my heart is still a lover of this great REPUBLIC. Please don't count me totally as us old farts are still worth something. Especially at the polls when we vote PRO=CONSTITUTION in what ever way possible. In the current case TRUMP 2020.

originally posted by: SailorJerry

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
Shortest war in history?

It won’t be far off it. Grossly unequal ‘sides’ this time around.
The normal, average person versus the gutless and the weak.

I hope its televised

I dont think it would be a shooting war, at least, not for the most parts, youll have some factions and some idiots like Antifa that try and get violent and get stomped out quick, fast, and in a hurry.

For that fact of the matter, were already in a type of civil war, along with the war of information and ideas, weve come to a point where theres an impass, and neither side is going to negotiate.

And honestly there are very many of the PROGRESSIVE ideology tricks we as conservatives should never compromise on.

Were in a fight for to save the constitution and the expression of free thought and ideas, while the left want to silence anyone who doesnt believe like they do.

Just look at whats happening on college campuses.

I think that fix is safe to offer.

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: strongfp


Not exactly. The Liberalism of the Founding Fathers is way right of the Republican Party. The most liberal amongst them were Laissez-Faire Liberals. What they were left of was Absolute Monarchy. But revisionist history in public indoctrination centers being what it is today...

That chart is absolute BULL SNIP because it has Fascism on the right. Monarchy is Right and conservatism is probably correct on this, but not NAZI or Fascism at all. The Leftist rule by Social Decree's and select a "leader" who looks the part. Dictators were given power by the elite party members.

a reply to: Justoneman

Nazism is first and foremost Nationalistic. Then supports its position by ethnic purity. The scant socialism involved is the “sell” to win over the masses.

Fascism is the merger of corporatism within an Authoritarian government system that is typically totalitarian in nature or becomes so soon after. If ownership of corporations is held by the collective population under socialism or communism which are left wing, then total control (or at least absolute influence) of government by privately owned enterprises can only be right wing ideology.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

In reply to the long post, I pick the R's went after Clinton over a BJ, thank you.


I see a power figure taking advantage of a young intern in an office situation. White, Black or otherwise that was unacceptable. He was IMPEACHED for lying in a Civil case. The 'high crime and misdemeanor' part was met. The R's proved they were D's when they voted, not to a man but to keep their 'attempt' clean with enough help to ignore the fact #42 was guilty. The term RINO was invented after that event, IMO.

originally posted by: Tartuffe
a reply to: JBurns

If it is a war it is a war of words and ideas, and not a literal one. We should never blur the lines between words and violence, not only for the obvious reasons, but because it is the modus operandi of the opponent.

Excellent point! We have but to use their own logic against them using substantiated proof. When they act like it wasn't theirs you break out the facts. Overcoming the media squelching these stories are what the Internet represents to the facts now. But it does seem like the frog in the warming pot story. Stay vigilant and love your neighbor. Abstain from violence until you can't turn the other cheek any more. People understand the need for anyone to protect themselves and family from violence. It is coming. Don't start it. But when it does, then find a way to stop it. God bless us all.

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: Justoneman

Nazism is first and foremost Nationalistic. Then supports its position by ethnic purity. The scant socialism involved is the “sell” to win over the masses.

Fascism is the merger of corporatism within an Authoritarian government system that is typically totalitarian in nature or becomes so soon after. If ownership of corporations is held by the collective population under socialism or communism which are left wing, then total control (or at least absolute influence) of government by privately owned enterprises can only be right wing ideology.

National Socialism and not just Nationalist.

Germany wasn't stopping with traditional borders, nor did Russia or Italy. It was all conquest oriented unless I misread history. The Colonizing country's and their free colonies were the Axis and Allies of the two WW's. It wasn't nationalism it was expansion of power and access to resources.

The only action that I would fully support...is a U.S. military coup d'état against the Trump administration.

a reply to: Justoneman

Agreed

Ironclad rebuttal with facts is good medicine for lies, smears and propaganda. Of course like many others here pointed out a good delivery of the facts are also important, otherwise they tend to get discarded as minutiae in favor of headline grabbing slurs and the ever increasing shouting match of "hey look over here! look at me!"

A good example of this was Rachel Madcow's ever increasing web of insanity and illogical leaps. Once she published something along the lines of "We have his tax returns!" only to have entirely misrepresented it for the purpose of conning the audience into watching a show built on the Russiahoax conspiracy

Stay vigilant and love your neighbor. Abstain from violence until you can't turn the other cheek any more. People understand the need for anyone to protect themselves and family from violence. It is coming. Don't start it. But when it does, then find a way to stop it. God bless us all.

Absolutely, this is a great summary couldn't have said it any better!

One advantage many of us have is that our communities do not generally at the first sign of trouble devolve into looting, rioting and chaos like bigger cities. I only hope Patriots living in the cities are prepared to evacuate or shelter in place with a group of fellow patriots in case of X

God bless

a reply to: Erno86

Not going to happen

Our military love this country and are bound only to the Constitution and the civilian CINC. They are patriots who stand behind the Constitution.

News flash, those who seek to overthrow the Constitution buy forcing "fundamental changes" to our way of life and subversion of our unalienable rights with the objective of installing a socialist government (which is unlawful out of the gates -- Article 4 Section 4) are not standing with the Constitution and duly installed commander in chief.

originally posted by: NarcolepticBuddha

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JBurns


What happens if the pro-Constitutionalists lose?

Don't worry. Libs only openly attack statues, smirking children, and the elderly.

Good point

I seem to recall them restraining their emotionally driven selves from engaging in violence against the Oath Keepers and 3%ers. Hmm wonder why

Seems like the cowards have a preference for choosing soft targets. Typical terrorists!

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: DBCowboy

“There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

Warren Buffett

And who is supposed to argue with that?

So, why doesn't he give up being rich, and lift others up with his wealth? Does he pay his secretary far more than the average?

a reply to: JBurns


President Trump has already recently claimed that there was a coup attempt against him.


Do you agree with his assessment???