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A new American civil war

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posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 05:21 PM
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It is hardly a new concept, in fact many have been preparing for this precise scenario since the 1990's. Many more, however, did not see the writing on the wall (myself included) and dismissed these claims. Today, it is no longer possible to brush them aside. The events that have transpired - but especially those over the last 2 years - have painted a picture that is abundantly clear. The forces at work despise Americans, don't believe our Constitution is worth the paper it is written on and will stop at nothing to "fundamentally transform" this nation. No low is too low for them.

Here are some known facts:

1) The pro-constitution forces oppose the anti-constitution forces and their efforts to shred our Constitution and install some socialist-esque mob-ruled farce in its place.

2) Pro-constitution forces fundamentally oppose efforts by anti-constitutionalists to "fundamentally transform" the United States

3) The socialists, communists, progressives and foreign interests and their minions are ruthless, remorseless fighters for their cause and will do or say anything - whether legal or otherwise - to achieve absolute power (including power over the Constitution) to achieve their goal of "fundamentally transforming the United States"

The democrats and its cronies have been waging a cultural war for over 5 decades now and the principles that made her the greatest nation on Earth, truly free and prosperous.

Make no mistake, this is indeed a war. A civil war. To win this civil war FOR AMERICA we first have to realize and accept that it is in fact a war! So far it has mostly been a non-shooting war, but it is war nonetheless. Pretending otherwise makes no difference, as in the end America's enemies see it as a war and are treating it as such. By continuing to deny this reality, we provide these anti-freedom-fighters with significant cover even if that isn't our goal.

The reason for this is simple: we cannot win a war if we don't first realize we are in one. Whether we like it or not, this is the position they put all those on the side of the US Constitution in.

Next, folks... we need to change our own thinking and actions to ensure they align with the goal of winning this war for the United States! For freedom, for the Constitution, for our people, for our President and for our beautiful Republic.

The right wing has been -through words, actions and VOTES- telling these forces (which once existed only underground, during the McCarthy trials) we are reaching the upper limit of the level of BS we're willing to tolerate. Dems respond by not only ignoring these sentiments, but by doubling down on it and continuing to spew damaging and dangerous rhetoric with the expressed intention of "fundamentally transforming" the United States - our Republic - into their own nightmarish vision.

There can be no misgivings... the leftists are the agitators, the provocateurs, the subversives and the violent actors. They intentionally and willfully stir up as much conflict and turmoil as they possibly can, confronting or attacking the right in public and eager to vent their virulent invented outrage/anger at our rejection of their terrible policies/ideologies and take it out on us. The left throws CONSTANT fits and immediately takes to # stirring at the slightest hint of resistance to their plot against America. The right, however, tend to take a more measured approach, avoids conflict or escalation and generally "keep our powder dry" mentality. See the Kavanaugh hearing or Russia hoax investigation - anybody remember the individuals beating on the doors to the Senate floor?

In any case, we have been trying to tell them enough is enough. We've spoken, we've yelled, we've went on television, we've formed movements and tea parties and protested. We've passed laws and even elected President Donald Trump to the WH - all in an effort to reject the left, their message and their ideology.

And even that wasn't enough. They've attacked us personally, attacked our electors, claimed our President was illegitimate, claimed our motives were "racistsexistXist" and did everything in their power to subvert this President. They've taken to the streets, they've opened fire on our congressmen, they've rioted, looted, burned buildings down and openly speak of instigating civil war.

Who was it that said "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable"? I believe it was JFK and he was spot on. Well, electing Trump was our peaceful revolution at the ballot box.

Obviously conservatives will never start such a conflict, but it is important we be aware, alert and advised of the fact that war is already here - at our doorsteps, in our backyards and elsewhere. Whether we like it or not, these forces have sought us out specifically because we are the only impediment between them and the Constitution they so desperately want to shred.

This is not a call to arms. Far from it. It is a call to situational awareness, common-sense preparations and above all else... a heightened defensive posture. And although this very message has been in the news over the past 2 years (Google News search for "new civil war" and you'll see), I'm sure this won't be a very popular topic. But I really do not care. This has to be said and the right needs to wake up and smell the coffee brewing.

The writing is on the wall folks, and I only hope our Executive branch acts before these forces are fully prepared and in a position to strike the fatal death-blow to our Constitution and proud nation. Make no mistake about it, this is their desired end goal. A government not constrained by the Constitution is their goal. A legislature not restricted in scope is their goal. A nation where tyranny reigns, where the free are oppressed and where the successful are punished for being successful is their goal. In short, a nation with no Constitution and no Constitution-defenders is their goal.

The presence of above-ground socialist/communist agitators makes this much apparent. What they are advocating (socialism/communism/fundamental transformation) is expressly illegal under Article 4 Section 4 of the US Constitution.
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posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 05:50 PM
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Our current civil war is a battle of information and of public opinion.

Now picture our 1776 Revolutionary War. The left would easily be the British army with their massive backing ( the MSM ) vs. the right who have to resort to more humble means ( Q anon, alt media, etc.)



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 05:53 PM
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I see it as a paranoid think-tank suggesting the gov go full on techno facist to beat the inevitable "awakening" to a rigged tax scam/wealth redistribution system. To try and control the flow of information.

The civil war being pushed is obvious, but with the purpose of redirecting from a revolution and dissolution of the entire rigged system.

Representation isn't really needed anymore. We can blog here, but not take part in laws and regs that effect us?.

Hence the fight amongst yourself tactical division being used. Racewars, class wars, R/D etc....

Fight amongst yourselves, not us, so we can keep power.

Probably what this "AI for good" is all about, just not our good.

So many problems in just about every branch of gov. They have turned greedy and turned against us.

Weird times.



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 05:54 PM
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posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 05:56 PM
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. Today, it is no longer possible to brush them aside. The events that have transpired - but especially those over the last 2 years - have painted a picture that is abundantly clear. The forces at work despise Americans, don't believe our Constitution is worth the paper it is written on and will stop at nothing to "fundamentally transform" this nation. No low is too low for them.



Why has all America been asleep at the wheel?

Oh thats right both sides R & D's profited from US Hegemony, the Petrodollar, exporting inflation, the MIC, Big Pharma

Where has the Constitution been for the last century?

wiki


The Federal Reserve System is the central banking system of the United States of America. It was created on December 23, 1913,

edit on 4-4-2019 by TheConstruKctionofLight because: wiki



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 05:57 PM
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posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: AgarthaSeed

The conservatives were most definitely British, and the American populists were most definitely the libertarian left leaning for massive reform and change for the people and not be under the thumb of a monarchy.



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:09 PM
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Weird times to be certain

Some have said a nebulous "they/them" were attempting to foment a civil war for years now. I always dismissed it as alarmist, but I'll be darned if a number of claims they made haven't come to pass

Personally? I support being alert and aware, there are seemingly those very eager to instigate revolutionary violence. Some have even used the wording "American spring" referring to the Arab spring protests that resulted in a number of governments being overthrown for a left-wing government.

In any case, it seems the MSM has been publishing a fair number of articles with this theme and it is time to remind them that America is watching, waiting and listening. That we are aware of their intent to divide and conquer. Only problem is, the division has so far worked fairly well and I have to question whether or not they will ultimately be successful in their goal

There are ways to protect yourself beyond the obvious, having a supply of food and medicine, along with other items from an essentials list

It is sad that political discourse is dying such an unnatural death in this country. And those pushing democracy in a Republic are very much so to blame. Jefferson said "A democracy is mob rule, where 51% of the people can vote to take away the rights of the 49%"

Our country and way of life are worth preserving. Many better men than me sacrificed everything to secure the blessings of liberty and freedom, and there is a large chunk of our population more than willing to throw it all away over their goal of forcing this "fundamental transformation" on a people that have clearly and plainly rejected it.



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:10 PM
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The democrats and its cronies have been waging a cultural war for over 5 decades now and the principles that made her the greatest nation on Earth, truly free and prosperous.


There is no Dick Cheney, nor a certain Mr. Presents Bush.
And there will be WMD's in Iraq, somewhere. Sure.

Pesky muslims!

This is too easy, Mitch. You've gone nuclear already. Again. C'mon!



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:20 PM
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Agreed, it has largely played out in the 5th recognized domain of warfare.

Information/cyber, and we see that play out daily. Many times a day

A few nut jobs have taken it further, however, including an attacker who shot Rep. Scalise at a congressional ballgame



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:32 PM
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The Constitution is built upon concepts of social responsibility, equality under the law and human rights.

I mean, look at your whole Bill of Rights (one of your three Constitutional documents)! If there ever was an all-encompassing socialist manifesto, that's it.

No, the ones who are trying to destroy the Constitution are right wing, selfish and greedy capitalists. There's almost nothing in the Constitution for them.

But it's funny how the 'propaganda arm' are constantly suggesting that "the left" are trying to undermine the Constitution.

The truth is that the Constitution is neither explicitly Left or Right. Their is such a thing as middle America, where the vast population sits. They are the true power and the true economy and the true country.


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posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: AgarthaSeed

The conservatives were most definitely British, and the American populists were most definitely the libertarian left leaning for massive reform and change for the people and not be under the thumb of a monarchy.


Wait

the conservatives, who are pro constitution and many are very strict constitutionalists, like the founders who WROTE that constitution, are the British?

I cant for the life of me figure out how some of you think, the processes seem to be either absolutely flawed at every level, or its just not there and you guys just "say words"

This statement you made , makes absolutely no sense, neither factually, or historically.



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:37 PM
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I don't think the right wants an "American spring". They just want America. The right is careful. Don't think they aren't organized, or prepared. The "flyover" areas are basically the entire country. Remember that.



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:42 PM
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*Sigh*

War is inevitable.

The bad part is, the aftermath may be even worse than the lead up.

What happens if the pro-Constitutionalists lose?



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:42 PM
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The Constitution is built upon concepts of social responsibility, equality under the law and human rights.

Exactly which are conservative tenants



I mean, look at your whole Bill of Rights (one of your three Constitutional documents)! If there ever was an all-encompassing socialist manifesto, that's it

Not even close, infact the two statements you just made, directly contradict each other, so which is it?




No, the ones who are trying to destroy the Constitution are right wing, selfish and greedy capitalists. There's almost nothing in the Constitution for them.


Is that why the left are now going full bore admitting they want to remove the 2nd, and police who gets to have freedom of speech? And also want to remove the Electoral College? The same college that gives a voice to rural America during elections?

Again, you guys have twisted yourself into knots with these mental gymnastics




But it's funny how the 'propaganda arm' are constantly suggesting that "the left" are trying to undermine the Constitution.


Its not propaganda when you have people on the left, including representatives in the gov, actually stating these things.

Do you guys just sit with your head in the sand and only listen to talking points without doing any research or, how does that work, because again, the logic here is so flawed that my 16 year old grand daughter could make a better argument.



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:45 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
What happens if the pro-Constitutionalists lose?

There is no "lose". We don't give that up.



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:46 PM
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Let's talk about failed neoliberal policies, privatization and class-warfare until the naked emperor covers his oh-so-shiny new, but sadly invisible robe in a somewhat hypnotizing cloud of derailing textbook replies, shan't we?



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posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: sine.nomine

originally posted by: DBCowboy
What happens if the pro-Constitutionalists lose?

There is no "lose". We don't give that up.


Oh I understand. Just saying that the leftists and progressives are far from stupid.

They'd trash the country and scorch the earth just to get their way.

They're already trying!

Just look at the ones who want to tank our entire economy just to make Trump look bad.



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:50 PM
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Shortest war in history?

It won’t be far off it. Grossly unequal ‘sides’ this time around.
The normal, average person versus the gutless and the weak.

I hope its televised



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