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The Cloward-Piven Strategy - a blueprint for sedition

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posted on Apr, 3 2019 @ 10:44 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: chr0naut

It is a strange term. Those so called "sovereign citizens" like to use it. Paper terrorism, also known as frivolous legal filings, intend only to sow chaos and take advantage of a strained and bloated bureaucracy that is unable to process/handle the filings. Think of it in PC terms, it is like a denial of service attack for public institutions. Another way to look at it is to think of our court systems, and a severe overabundance of laws that creates the necessity of resolving over 99% of cases with plea bargains

Now, if every defendant charged with a crime were to reject all plea bargains and not waive their right to a speedy trial during their arraignment (something lawyers do by default) then our courts would quickly grind to a halt as the backlog of cases grew to the point they'd never be adjudicated

Another example is when tax protesters (as much as I may agree with them) file what the IRS deems "frivolous tax protester arguments" in place of requested information/documentation/forms, filing false liens or initiating other proceedings. In the cases of liens, a property owner doesn't even know it has been filed until they go to sell the property. Regardless, these are all considered forms of paper terrorism

By advocating for mass influx of welfare claims, these people (as they state) intentionally want to bind the system up until it becomes non-functional at which point they believe will magically be replaced by a universal basic income, etc. The obvious question is "Where will that money come from?" and of course there is no good answer. Simply printing more money does nothing but decrease the value of money already in circulation (such as Venezuela). Anyhow, their plans are flawed and poorly thought out... but like many other such plans has done little to stop those trying to implement their ideals

Socialism, communism, and the policies of these ideologies were dreamed up by zealots who are heavy on ideology/fluff but lacking in actual solutions, workable ideas or valid logistics




If inhibiting normal government (by overload) is called terrorist activity, wouldn't that make inhibiting normal government (by shutdown) be a far more dangerous and effective terrorism?

So, would Trump have waged a highly successful terror campaign against America?



(Silly misuse of language doesn't become un-silly through repetition).
edit on 3/4/2019 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)




posted on Apr, 3 2019 @ 10:55 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: chr0naut

One extreme example would be like what American Democrats are doing lately.

Like passing Bills that have extensive language, but laws already exist.

😎


I'm sure that is really all most politicians do.

Most law is refinement and additional specification on top of very few foundational principles like the Hammurabic Code or the 10 Commandments.

Jesus distilled it down even further with " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment and the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."



posted on Apr, 3 2019 @ 11:09 PM
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Yup they are checking each box off one by one, I started warning about this almost 10 years ago for people to start looking at the signs.........

Now they are plain for anyone to see that wants to really understand whats happening.



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

Excellent Thread!

Subversion and Sedition for decades.

The plan to infiltrate the educational system
has come to fruition as well.

Brainwash 401 to the max.
S&F



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:01 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: JBurns

"Paper terrorism". That's a new one. How does paper induce fear and terror in the population? I can just see it now; DHS agent in court being asked why they shot someone: "Well, they were carrying concealed toilet paper wrapped around them like a suicide vest. If they detonated that, we could all have been killed"!



... and if the guaranteed income is for "all people", who are these "rest of us" who aren't included? They'd have to only be the non-people, people, wouldn't they?

While I don't think that this particular way of achieving a universal basic income would actually work, I do think that even in the most capitalist of societies, we have to review how we assure the qualities of life that we hold as human rights. A UBI may be one of those options.



not a hard concept to grasp. Perhaps embracing liberal mindset can make you stupid.

The idea is that a guaranteed income has to be funded by someone. And that someone is the people who work and pay taxes. Believe it or not, if you don't work, and don't earn an income, you also don't pay taxes. Look into that.



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: Wildmanimal

Amen to that


We all know what their end goal is, only problem is it isn't going to work out the way they hope



[art not mine - C/O Rep. King's social media]
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posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:04 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: JBurns

"Paper terrorism". That's a new one. How does paper induce fear and terror in the population? I can just see it now; DHS agent in court being asked why they shot someone: "Well, they were carrying concealed toilet paper wrapped around them like a suicide vest. If they detonated that, we could all have been killed"!



... and if the guaranteed income is for "all people", who are these "rest of us" who aren't included? They'd have to only be the non-people, people, wouldn't they?

While I don't think that this particular way of achieving a universal basic income would actually work, I do think that even in the most capitalist of societies, we have to review how we assure the qualities of life that we hold as human rights. A UBI may be one of those options.



not a hard concept to grasp. Perhaps embracing liberal mindset can make you stupid.

The idea is that a guaranteed income has to be funded by someone. And that someone is the people who work and pay taxes. Believe it or not, if you don't work, and don't earn an income, you also don't pay taxes. Look into that.


What about if you simply cannot work?

Say you are incapacitated in some way or are simply unable to get a job with sufficient income to "pay your own way". (I know that I have been unemployed at times, despite being highly skilled, capable and desiring to work).

In fact, I'm fairly sure that nearly 100% of working age American citizens have been unemployed at some stage. Do we just kill all of them off, for their "delinquency of duty"?

Do we just throw these people under the bus?

See, that's the problem of taking the simplistic approach of the selfish pure capitalist. They are the very people that would suffer if such shortsighted and ill-considered policies were implemented. Real capitalism realizes that the value of the money comes from the populace and supports the resource.



posted on Apr, 4 2019 @ 06:26 PM
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Financial Insurrection




posted on Apr, 8 2019 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

Clearly.
But Golem has certainly distracted the populace
from the Congressional Sexual Lawsuit Slush Fund,
Term Limits, Campaign Finance Reform, Obummers
American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.(What a show!)
and the rest if the 10 Trillion that was spent Somewhere
in your debt far,far,away in your near future.




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