Could "Judgement Day" = "Dimensional Shift 2012"?

terrence mckenna? time wave zero? checked it out? or gregg braden? awakening to zero point?
cool about the gauss thing. congrats on your gift.

Actually, according to String Theory, a collision in dimmentions (a dimmentional shift) is more than plausable. For more information on String Theory, go the PBS web site. I think it is PBS.org.

HOLY CRAP!

I don't even know how to respond to this. Here I go:

How do you know these things about genuine crop circles?

What are you going to do when you find out George Bush is not the anti christ?

If it is a secret government, how do you know it is trying to prevent ascention information from coming out?

What the heck is ascention information?

How can the secret government be installing plans to control us with technology and chip control when the NON SECRET government is doing it right in front of your obviously half closed eyes?

Who are these mystics and channelers pointing to some sort of dimentional shift?

Why don't you mention anything about the majority of these mystics and channelers who do not point to some sort of dimensional shift at that time?

What information do you have that enables you to consider the Hopi Indians a reliable source?

Obviously you believe in one God due to your christian references in the above post. The hopi Indians believe in many gods. How can you go along with spiritual information that disagrees with your fundamental base?

My ideas are that this connection is completely based in abstract speculation. In other words there is no connection between any of these things. After all, they just came from the melting pot in the "back of your mind".

Me too brother, but I want to be careful morally so I can be alive AFTER it....

I have been researching crop circles for some time. There is TONS of information for anyone who cares to read a few books and do some basic research. Here's a few links to some web sites to get you started:

www.bltresearch.com...
www.lovely.clara.net...
www.cccrn.ca...
www.temporarytemples.co.uk...
www.cropcircleresearch.com...
www.cropcircle-archive.com...


That was just a jab at GWB, not serious


I don't "know" that, it is just my impressions based on information I've read over the years. Ascension is the process of moving forward or upward in frequency (for lack of a better reference). IMHO, the "Secret Government" is a group of people who value this world above others by seeking to gain power through financial and physical means. This is in direct conflict with the whole concept of Ascension. Hence, this is only an opinion of mine, as is everything I write.



Ascension information (the best I've found) can be found at the link in my signature.



The "Secret Government" controls the "Non-Secret Government" and through big business. Only a few people in the world (respectively speaking) control a significant portion of the world's resources including financial. These people have TREMENDOUS influence on how governments behave. They don't have "total control" in my opinion, but they have enough to gain sway in the physical.


See the Ascension link in my signature. David Wilcocks, Gordon Michael Scallion (Earth Changes Website), and Edgar Cayce to name a few.



Because I have not found any. Please post some links to these other mystics and channelers so I can review them.



I have seen many references from different sources regarding their beliefs. I analyze information based upon my references and how information correlates. How do you determine what you believe to be accurate or inaccurate, truthful or nontruthful?



This is off topic completely and would require a completely separate thread. Please start one if you want to go down this road.



Of course it's speculation! I didn't state it as fact. Merely as a connection between different points of reference. You can choose to ignore and disbelieve anything and everything... Where will that get you? Let me answer for you... NO WHERE.

How about an honest discussion?

Peace,

+Jammer

You know all matter vibrates. We are made of atoms, electrons which move. Now everywhere we go we read that the change will mean a higer rate of vibration. Think a little, if our atoms, electrons, our body will vibrate at the speed of light what will hapen? Will there be time? The world would change.

All that will happen on that date is that our solar system (ie Sun) will pass through the centre/be aligned (exactly that is - not "in the vicinity of")) with the galactic plane and this happens every 13000 odd years in a 26000 odd year cycle.

I think we'll have a shift and I recommend you hold on

If a spirtual one happens as well, then so be it...or will the spiritual shift come from the physical one?

I look at it from the way the northern hemi tornado's spin anti-clockwise and the souther hemi tornado's spin clockwise. Now what happens if a northern hemi tornado passes over the equator? I think that will happen to our solar system - whether we flip, reverse..who knows...but we will exist after the fact. How do I know? The Australian aboriginals are older than 13000 years so it can't be all that bad

I haven't read it yet, but there is a book called Galactic Alignment by John Major Jenkins. Have a look at the reviews as this may be an interesting read for you.

www.amazon.com...

Cheers

JS

Dimensional Shift perhaps not.. Spiritual Shift more like it after all, When is the Human Spirit as a "Whole" (that means lots and lots of people at the same time) seriously transformed? During times of great disaters.

Now as for Christ's return well how do you know he is not here already? It does say that he will come like a theif in the night... meaning that no one will know when or where he will come, since he will not come as he did before.

The Mayan Calander... Yes it is a system of seasons and ages and cycles and one of those cycles is the return of possibly one of the largest Comets to traverse the heavens, and that happens at the end of that calander 12/21/2012. They refered to it as the "God Planet" and is rumored to be the reason for their advanced knowledge and technology. IF and I do mean IF something that large were to be moving into this part of the Universe and even pass relatively close to earth, what affects do you think it might have? I mean the distortions to the fabric of Space/Time with respect to gravity could affect everything long before it arrived.

Judgment Day, The Apocolyspe, what ever you want to call it is simply another cycle of the planet, solar system, Universe and this time we are stuck in the middle of it. You can either not worry about it and be a good person to yourselves and others and you have nothing to worry about. You can contiinue to be rude and selfish and egotisical and not care and you'll realize too late that you are bummin. OR You can prepare yourselves to stick it out and fight the changes to come with the Gifts granted to you by the Power of the Universe (translated ...GOD) and do as the Universe intended you to do and that is to Survive and deal with the difficulties that life throws at you. After all what do you learn if your already dead? Not much of a spiritual transformation if your not here to make it. Death is not a spiritual transformation it is death the Universe's way of Recycling. I know that statement might go over like a lead zeppaline (sp?) but you can take it on faith alone (like most take things of the spirit) or you can actually think about it and work all the angles of the statment and then take what you find on faith. Choice is yours. At any rate I have to sleep sometime so goodnight ~BlakTalin~

Post a link here.

As for the shift, im an expert on this field. I am writing a book about this at the moment. To understand how the shift happens you have to study 9 dimensional model of perception outlined in books like Pleiadian Agenda. Theres the 9 dimensions of perceptions and there is the 10ths dimension which encompases all 9 in form and governs the "shift".


If anyone wants more info let me know.

Read the White Horse prophecy. I am St. Joseph and the world will not end it will be a rebirth of good and all will be pure again. Love will rule the world.