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Sword-wielder in ‘MAGA’ hat slashes man outside SF roller rink, police say

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posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:41 AM
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Wrong, there is no major political pundit that self identifies as Nazi or white supremacist, and any group that is gets blasted by both left and right.

Meanwhile we have celebrated and respected candidates or leaders on the left.

You simply are out of the loop if you don’t realize the variance in acceptance.

www.google.com...

The Forbes and slpc stats mostly focus on *reported* hate crimes, not convicted. Please review your own source.

None of those stats undermine my point that neo Nazi and kkk groups are rare statistically. That’s a fact.

The rise in reported hate crimes, does not support the idea that the antifa types have the right to label everyone a Nazi and “bash the fash” at will.


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posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: luthier

Authoritarianism and trampling the constitution?

Democrats are pissed because they didn't win the election so they are wanting to get rid of the electoral vote. That not only tramples the constitution, which they swore under oath to protect, but it also shows their authoritarianism by removing the voice from the small states just so they can win.



Awesome so they both do it.

And yes trampling the constitution and authoritarianism.

If you believe one is bad they both are. Otherwise you just want your guy to be the one doing it.

You either respect the constitution or you dont. There isn't a well it's for what I believe is right.



How does Trump do either of those? I explained my position, you didn't.



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: scraedtosleep

It's fun how this is now one of the hottest threads on ATS and yet not a single person has condemned the attacker without a qualifier.

It's literally 150 posts of people deflecting from the actual story.


You made it about a guy in a MAGA hat. What did you expect? If you wanted decent debate you would have put it in the Current Events, not the Mud Pit. Who do you think you're kidding?



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:45 AM
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originally posted by: CynConcepts

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: CynConcepts
a reply to: Xcalibur254

So if this story was turned around and the Pirate guy was yelling at perceived Trump supporters and a guy with a MAGA hat strolled up and knocked his pirate hat off...in which case the sword was wielded.....

You are saying you would condemn the pirate guy for reacting? You would not be more focused on trying to blame the guy in a MAGA hat...because OMG the hat is so racist?



If the story was as you described, we wouldn't even know about it and the OP wouldn't have posted it.


I disagree. I think the news media would have still created a leftist spin and made the pirate the victim of a rabid Trump supporter. The Pirate would have been heralded for self defense since he did not use a gun.


Good point, I can't argue with you there...



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Wrong, there is no major political pundit that self identifies as Nazi or white supremacist, and any group that is gets blasted by both left and right.

Meanwhile we have celebrated and respected candidates or leaders on the left.

You simply are out of the loop if you don’t realize the variance in acceptance.

www.google.com...

The Forbes and slpc stats mostly focus on *reported* hate crimes, not convicted. Please review your own source.

None of those stats undermine my point that neo Nazi and kkk groups are rare statistically. That’s a fact.

The rise in reported hate crimes, does not support the idea that the antifa types have the right to label everyone a Nazi and “bash the fash” at will.


a reply to: luthier


Steve king? Steve Scalise?

If you reject the FBI data (which is in the slp article on forbes) and say it's because of reporting changes you have a problem of credibility of information.

How many white nationalists ran this past midterm? Probably about 7 or 8. Only king and Scalise won. (Scalise has called himself David Duke without the baggage).



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:48 AM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Well, new zealand has white people. And it had a video. Phillippeans and Nigeria doesn't have white people or a video. Middle east is even less reported on b/c it has non-whites who aren't Christians. When's the last time you heard about a drone strike? Yet, civilian casualties have increased by 300%.

News just shows what they think the majority of people will care about.



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:50 AM
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Don’t splain to me son. When everything is about white versus dark racism, that’s all you will see. I likely know MORE about left wing and liberal ideology than you do, including the correct parts.

I lived in east and South Asia.

Yes, there is such discrimination in Asia. That doesn’t undermine anything I said. It supports it.

That’s discrimination BY Asian non white people, towards dark skinned people. Non white on non white racism a not just a thing in the US, it’s even bigger abroad. East Asia rates very high on racism scales.

No, it wasn’t taught by white people as some assert.

They DO institute Jim Crow esque laws in many countries. For ex the caste system in India.

The historical record proves that Europeans are not unique regardig in group out group bias, skin color discrimination, classism, conquest, slavery, you name it.

Any real scholar and historian would agree.
a reply to: luthier


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posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: luthier

Authoritarianism and trampling the constitution?

Democrats are pissed because they didn't win the election so they are wanting to get rid of the electoral vote. That not only tramples the constitution, which they swore under oath to protect, but it also shows their authoritarianism by removing the voice from the small states just so they can win.



Awesome so they both do it.

And yes trampling the constitution and authoritarianism.

If you believe one is bad they both are. Otherwise you just want your guy to be the one doing it.

You either respect the constitution or you dont. There isn't a well it's for what I believe is right.



How does Trump do either of those? I explained my position, you didn't.


He does it all the time. He signed an expansion of the surveillance programs and bulk data collection. He writes EO's reguralary. He just declared a state of emergency to bypass Congress. Bump stock ban, he has driven up the national debt to the bailout era level, constantly tries to circumvent Congress to get things done, he put his children in positions of power who have no credentials....it goes on and on. His labor secretary made an illegal plea deal with pedophile sex trafficker..



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

The way I see it is that the Right is now minimizing the influence of Nazis.

-We saw it in Charlottesville
-We've seen it with Atomeaffen
- We've seen it with the guy that hijacked a train
- We've seen it every time a far-Right extremist kills anyone.

Even if the number of these people is minuscule, they're committing more terror attacks than anyone else in this country.


No, they're not. What you're reading brands every white person who kills a minority as a far right extremist. Very few of the examples you've already posted can qualify as a far right extremist terror attack.



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
Don’t splain to me son. When everything is about white versus dark racism, that’s all you will see. I likely know MORE about left wing and liberal ideology than you do, including the correct parts.

I lived in east and South Asia.

Yes, there is such discrimination in Asia. That doesn’t undermine anything I said. It supports it.

That’s discrimination BY Asian non white people, towards dark skinned people. Non white on non white racism a not just a thing in the US, it’s even bigger abroad. East Asia rates very high on racism scales.

No, it wasn’t taught by white people as some assert.

They DO institute Jim Crow esque laws in many countries. For ex the caste system in India.

The historical record proves that Europeans are not unique regardig in group out group bias, skin color discrimination, classism, conquest, slavery, you name it.

Any real scholar and historian would agree.
a reply to: luthier



I never made the red herring or straw man you are...

Just saying there is a difference everywhere for dark skinned people. It's easy to point out we are against them....for social leaders who want to manipulate the public.


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posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

An excellent read. I would strongly encourage anyone interested in history to read it twice, a lot will be missed the first time through.

It is also available as an audio book.



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: luthier

Are we talking radical leftists being more prevalent, or more accepted?



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Either. It's just not true.

It depends where you are and what you watch.

In reality there are plenty of societies in the south and mid west who reject those ideologies.



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:57 AM
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I guess he shouldn’t have tried to steal the hat. Thieves get stitches.



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Mach2

In fairness, I don't recognize your name. So I'm not sure if you were around for Charlottesville.


Everybody condemned the loon at Charlottesville. That always seems to be the go-to incident the leftists use. It makes sense because it's the only one y'all have.



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: LSU2018

It's not though. It's the only one with a March and riot.



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: CynConcepts

Mate nobody in any first world nation should be walking about with a sword.

Said the closet totalitarian Statist.

Swords don't slice people, people do.



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

I forgot to ask, since it wasn't in the article.... What kind of sword was it? Since you like assumptions, sword wielding requires excellent wrist and whole arm control and strength plus very good body balance. To just cut someone can be done with long knife or a short sword. I doubt a progressive or liberal could handle the weight of a two handed broadsword and lack the finesse and balance of dealing with a katana. A progressive might do ok with a short sword, because they don't weigh a lot and they are more like handling a big knife.

My assumptions for the day is it was a liberal/progressive/sjw wearing a maga hat and using a short sword that was workable with a limp wrist. It is after all, San Fransisco lol.

Cheers - Dave



posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
I see well ot must be fact. Your team could never do any wrong. Regardless of reality.

Didn't say that and you know it.

What I will say is, the vast majority of Trump supporters are not retarded.

Can't say the same thing about the radical leftist Socialist/Communist/Fascist.
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posted on Apr, 1 2019 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: Xcalibur254

I forgot to ask, since it wasn't in the article.... What kind of sword was it? Since you like assumptions, sword wielding requires excellent wrist and whole arm control and strength plus very good body balance. To just cut someone can be done with long knife or a short sword. I doubt a progressive or liberal could handle the weight of a two handed broadsword and lack the finesse and balance of dealing with a katana. A progressive might do ok with a short sword, because they don't weigh a lot and they are more like handling a big knife.

My assumptions for the day is it was a liberal/progressive/sjw wearing a maga hat and using a short sword that was workable with a limp wrist. It is after all, San Fransisco lol.

Cheers - Dave


I dont know come to my BJJ class plenty of liberals with black belts.



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