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Thomas Jefferson, next on the chopping block. racist.

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posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:15 AM
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How can a inanimate object be racist?

At this point, the communist left has thrown that word around so much that it means nothing. Nobody seems to understand that you can’t judge people of the past by the standards of the present.

Idiocy at its finest.


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posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:16 AM
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originally posted by: Lab4Us
a reply to: network dude

What about the Constitution?

Is there any doubt it’s the holy grail target of the globalists and their SJW foot soldiers?

Once the Constitution falls, the US ceases to exist...no one is left to resist the masters. Only question left is this - Are there enough freedom loving US citizens to prevent their country’s collapse?



from the OP:



What about the Constitution? Wasn't it written by slavers and racists?


I think that is the end goal.



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:23 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
Yeah people Jefferson was a racist.

Even though many of his descendent's are 'black'.





Thomas Jefferson's views on slavery are complex. Jefferson consistently spoke out against the turpitude of slavery and worked gradually to end the practice of slavery while he owned over 600 African-American slaves throughout his adult life and freed only seven.


Source

Seems he used to talk the talk... Still though, the fact remains that there were 600 individual souls he claimed ownership of.

That's pretty dark.



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Lab4Us
a reply to: network dude

What about the Constitution?

Is there any doubt it’s the holy grail target of the globalists and their SJW foot soldiers?

Once the Constitution falls, the US ceases to exist...no one is left to resist the masters. Only question left is this - Are there enough freedom loving US citizens to prevent their country’s collapse?



from the OP:



What about the Constitution? Wasn't it written by slavers and racists?


I think that is the end goal.





posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: neo96
Yeah people Jefferson was a racist.

Even though many of his descendent's are 'black'.





Thomas Jefferson's views on slavery are complex. Jefferson consistently spoke out against the turpitude of slavery and worked gradually to end the practice of slavery while he owned over 600 African-American slaves throughout his adult life and freed only seven.


Source

Seems he used to talk the talk... Still though, the fact remains that there were 600 individual souls he claimed ownership of.

That's pretty dark.


Do you have any pets? If so, keep that thought in mind when they declare animals "people" and you are accused of animal slavery in the future.



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: Subaeruginosa

It's not dark at all when put into proper context of the times, how he acquired the slaves, his positions, and his actions. When you live in ignorance you do tend to live in darkness though.



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:34 AM
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If' where getting rid of all things racist.

Begin with the Democratic party.

Created by slave owners FOR slave owners.

*Crickets*.



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Isn't the reason we imported slaves was to do the jobs that were beneath us?

Now Democrats import hispanic illegals to do those jobs.



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:36 AM
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I could see taking down Confederacy statues because they were erected after the war and the Confederacy stood for keeping slavery legal.

However, maybe Thomas should go? Defacing the statue is just stupid though. You should vote on it and then take it down. Put it in a museum.
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posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:37 AM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
This is a good thing I reckon.
The more wackadoo the left get the more they marginalize most normal people.

They keep going like this the pendulum is gonna swing real hard, real fast and real soon


I think you're right about that.

BTW when it comes to representing (and actively promoting) racism and slavery then what about the Abrahamic texts?

Are they going to try and ban the organised abrahamic religions as well?
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posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Brown is the new black.

So the answer is YES.

From cotton to votes.



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

It's not dark at all when put into proper context of the times, how he acquired the slaves, his positions, and his actions. When you live in ignorance you do tend to live in darkness though.


Oh ok, let's put it into "context" then... it wasn't economically viable for him to free all his slaves. Even though he admittedly knew it was the right thing to do.

It all seems so less dark now.

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posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:39 AM
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a reply to: karl 12




re they going to try and ban the organised religion as well?


Like the history of Islam.

That's rooted in supremacist ideology?

No they'll ignore inconvenient truths.



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: karl 12

Yea.. the left is going too far too fast. They are going to alienate everyone in their quest to please every far left liberal.

I'm usually on the side of "progressive" rights and ideas, but now alot of presidential candidates are talking about black reperations and forced gun confiscation. Like they don't even consider the reality of such acts...



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: network dude

Do these idiots in the OP remind you of anyone else?

Here is another group that likes to destroy history.



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:49 AM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Oh ok, let's put it into "context" then... it wasn't economically viable for him to free all his slaves. Even though he admittedly knew it was the right thing to do.


This is actually quite true, Jefferson kept meticulous ledgers on the operations that took place at Monticello; nail factory, vegetable farming, charcoal making, etcetera. He knew how to monetize each to maximize his returns and the enormous cost of operating the home was offset by the income he generated via his slaves.

Now, as an admirer of Jefferson's politics, I can separate the man from his actions, his ideals are worth espousing while his personal behavior was often not. As for the statue, I don't think it needs to be removed but we do need to fully understand who each of these people were, they are all flawed, just like all of us today.




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posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
If' where getting rid of all things racist.

Begin with the Democratic party.

Created by slave owners FOR slave owners.

*Crickets*.


I'd say something like, "well, that's all changed now", but then that would illuminate the amazing stupidity of pointing to civil war era patriots and crying buckets about their views of slavery. That level of stupid is rarely seen without a helmet.



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:58 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
As for the statue, I don't think it needs to be removed but we do need to fully understand who each of these people were, they are all flawed, just like all if us today.


Some are more equal though. That's why they get to decide for the rest of us.



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: neo96

Isn't the reason we imported slaves was to do the jobs that were beneath us?

Now Democrats import hispanic illegals to do those jobs.

Yep, my stepdaughter, a big time progressive that lives in Brooklyn and works in Manhattan for NYC advising new businesses, wants open borders.

She has an illegal that comes in weekly to clean her apartment.

This is her 3rd. One was deported and the other went home to visit and couldn't get back in the country.

She fails to see the hypocrisy in this.
SMH



posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: network dude

To add some historical content.

Jefferson's father-in-law was a Slave Trader. Upon his death, Jefferson and his wife Martha inherited over 100 slaves.



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