Trump cuts all direct assistance to Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala

Do the same to Mexico and use it for wall construction.

Just do it.

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: gortex

Look man, I know you just want to help poor people in other countries but we can't afford that right now. There is a lot of poor people right here that needs to be attended first, like those homeless veterans.

Just out of curiosity, why do you single out veterans, when you make that statement? Are they, somehow, more deserving than any other homeless person?

I agree that we have more problems, than money, and we certainly don't need to import more. Just trying to assess why you put that qualifier in there.

Maybe like me he is a vet. Maybe he also supports wounded and disable veterans organizations. I do.

My question was, should veterans get preferential treatment as it pertains to dealing with the homeless situation? There are homeless women and children as well.

There's absolutely NO reason in a rich country like the US, that Vets, women and children that need help shouldn't be receiving it. We have plenty of money to take care of all these people that need help. It comes down to priorities.

I look at things like the millions of dollars Dems have spent on this Russia BS for the last few yrs (and they're not done yet)
The 100K Booze and food bill that Pelosi ran up in 1yr on in-flight services alone and etc......
And on and on it goes with the superfluous spending by Republicans, Democrats and the Military.
There's a lot of money being wasted that could be better spent helping the less fortunate citizens of our country.

It's repulsive to me that anyone should be hungry and homeless in this country, while our elected officials are vacationing on a yacht somewhere in the Bahamas having Caviar and Champagne with the finest hookers our money can buy.

originally posted by: Irishhaf

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: gortex

Look man, I know you just want to help poor people in other countries but we can't afford that right now. There is a lot of poor people right here that needs to be attended first, like those homeless veterans.

Just out of curiosity, why do you single out veterans, when you make that statement? Are they, somehow, more deserving than any other homeless person?

I agree that we have more problems, than money, and we certainly don't need to import more. Just trying to assess why you put that qualifier in there.

Maybe like me he is a vet. Maybe he also supports wounded and disable veterans organizations. I do.

I assumed that he was a vet.

My question was, should veterans get preferential treatment as it pertains to dealing with the homeless situation? There are homeless women and children as well.

I'm not anti veteren, military, or anything like that. I was interested in the point of view that he had, not knocking it.

A good portion of the homeless veterans were broken by the last 20 yrs of war.

Govt broke them, govt should take care of them.
Note not all obviously, some chose a life that lead to that point, but those with severe ptsd, tbi etc related to their service should be at the front of the line.

Excellent response, and i agree with a lot of what you have stated.

I also have some first hand knowledge of situations where veterans, one being my own son, (Marine, three deployments, Iraq and Afghanistan, combat, decorated) had some issues upon returning, but never tried to use that as an excuse to move on.

I realize, all individuals are not the same, but I also know a guy that, yes, he was in Iraq, but he was a cook, who never left the security of the green zone, let alone saw combat, and he is on disability, citing PTSD. I just have a hard time buying that.

a reply to: mtnshredder

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're wading far to close to socialist platforms here. How un-American.

originally posted by: mtnshredder

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Mach2

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: gortex

Look man, I know you just want to help poor people in other countries but we can't afford that right now. There is a lot of poor people right here that needs to be attended first, like those homeless veterans.

Just out of curiosity, why do you single out veterans, when you make that statement? Are they, somehow, more deserving than any other homeless person?

I agree that we have more problems, than money, and we certainly don't need to import more. Just trying to assess why you put that qualifier in there.

Maybe like me he is a vet. Maybe he also supports wounded and disable veterans organizations. I do.

My question was, should veterans get preferential treatment as it pertains to dealing with the homeless situation? There are homeless women and children as well.

There's absolutely NO reason in a rich country like the US, that Vets, women and children that need help shouldn't be receiving it. We have plenty of money to take care of all these people that need help. It comes down to priorities.

I look at things like the millions of dollars Dems have spent on this Russia BS for the last few yrs (and they're not done yet)
The 100K Booze and food bill that Pelosi ran up in 1yr on in-flight services alone and etc......
And on and on it goes with the superfluous spending by Republicans, Democrats and the Military.
There's a lot of money being wasted that could be better spent helping the less fortunate citizens of our country.

It's repulsive to me that anyone should be hungry and homeless in this country, while our elected officials are vacationing on a yacht somewhere in the Bahamas having Caviar and Champagne with the finest hookers our money can buy.

I cannot disagree about messed up priorities, and the wastes of taxpayer $ by politicians.

I guess I have become so cynical, at this point, I feel like they need to prove to me they are responsibe, before I willingly give them an extra dime.

a reply to: gortex

We all live on the same rock , it isn't the peoples fault they don't live in a land of milk and honey.

THen I suggest you pick a drug addict, and give them money every week to help them. Youll find out really quick why its not a good idea to just hand out money that enables bad behavior.

a reply to: strongfp
You can't continue giving money to country's with corrupt governments. The people that actually need the help don't ever get it.

Why give money to a government that either treats their people poorly or does not keep their people safe from the Cartel and other bad groups? Maybe it will get these governments to try to give their people better living conditions, I bet most of the aid given to these countries does not help their citizens at all.

a reply to: JBurns

Aand now you just have to convince enough of those in congress to see things your way. Good luck on that one.
And it's really insane to think that we could just build walls around out borders and let neighboring countries just devolve into chaos without it coming back to bite us. I mean. We did that with Afghanistan it seems. If I remember my history right someone took advantage of that chaos, spread some of their money around to lure the masses in and well you know the test of that story. Didn't turn out too well for us and probably would have been worse if they were closer geographically to us.

a reply to: strongfp

But we can't even help our own people, so I'm not going to worry about other countries until our own people (ESPECIALLY our brave military Vets) are 100% taken care of and set for life. If you risk your life to serve this country you deserve everything we can muster up for you

And we're already providing aid to these countries and they have done nothing with it. Yes, it would make sense to rebuild South America I do agree. But where is the money coming from?

personally, I'd have rather seen the money we spent on the M/E gone to South America.

No doubt about that

a reply to: dawnstar

Not interested in spineless Congress. Besides, aren't they too busy looking for ways to make up more BS about our President?

Don't worry, we have this under control.

a reply to: strongfp

When you serve our country it is not socialism it is GRATITUDE

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: JBurns

Aand now you just have to convince enough of those in congress to see things your way. Good luck on that one.
And it's really insane to think that we could just build walls around out borders and let neighboring countries just devolve into chaos without it coming back to bite us. I mean. We did that with Afghanistan it seems. If I remember my history right someone took advantage of that chaos, spread some of their money around to lure the masses in and well you know the test of that story. Didn't turn out too well for us and probably would have been worse if they were closer geographically to us.

Those are two totally different situations. We didn't go into Afghanistan to help poor, third word ppl. It was a den of terrorists, that openly threatened all "western" countries.

I'm not saying we handled it particularly well, but to compare the two is ludicrous.

You might want to explore history a little deeper than at a very superficial level.

I'd pay good money for Trump to tweet this meme. . . .

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: strongfp

But we can't even help our own people, so I'm not going to worry about other countries until our own people (ESPECIALLY our brave military Vets) are 100% taken care of and set for life. If you risk your life to serve this country you deserve everything we can muster up for you

And we're already providing aid to these countries and they have done nothing with it. Yes, it would make sense to rebuild South America I do agree. But where is the money coming from?

personally, I'd have rather seen the money we spent on the M/E gone to South America.

No doubt about that

I agree that serving our country deserves gratitude, as well as preferential treatment, and perks, to a point.

It's not a lifetime pass on carrying your own weight though.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Trueman

You want to support those countries. Send your own money, not mine. Talk is cheap.

I do through my taxes and as I'm not obsessed by money I'm happy to do so , they are welcome to the few pounds it costs me every year.

In 2016, the UK spent £13.4 billion on overseas aid, in line with the 0.7% target.

Because the UK economy is set to get bigger over the next few years the real value of development aid spending is expected to increase.

By 2021 we could be spending about £14.5 billion, based on the Office for Budget Responsibility’s forecasts and in 2016 prices. That’s a bit uncertain though; the amount we actually end up spending will depend on how much the economy grows.
fullfact.org...

We all live on the same rock , it isn't the peoples fault they don't live in a land of milk and honey.

how many do you take into your home each year? They have plenty who don't have a home to go to. I'm sure they would find your master bedroom comfortable, you can have the couch.

a reply to: Trueman

I'm not clear on what's happening here. Is the Trump Administration reneging on previously allotted funds, or is he cutting the future funding from his budget, that Congress has to approve?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Congress doesn't have to approve anything.

They control the purse, we get it. Trump doesn't have to cash the check, however.

Besides, what are they going to do? Impeach/convict him

Trump can rip the check (so to speak) up AKA simply deposit it back into the Treasury. And if Congress writes a new check (so to speak) every day, he can make a full deposit...every day. Persistence is key. If Congress writes 1,000,000,001 checks, then we deposit 1,000,000,001 checks back into the US treasury.

Stop wasting our money on foreign countries except Israel.

Build that wall! Build that wall!

a reply to: JBurns

Congress does have to approve Trump's budget. Is that what this is, a proposed budget cut? Or, is this Trump refusing to release already authorized funds? It's a simple question.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Does it matter either way? This is not money that is owed, it's gift money, so it can be stopped at any time.