Democrats "Defrauding the Country with Ridiculous Bulls---"

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: carewemust

If democrats would just admit that republican policies are better there would be nothing else to discuss. But it isn't about what is better for democrats. Its about winning and making sure that Trump loses. It has nothing to do with what is best for this nation or its people.

No doubt about that. Healthcare is the only issue where Democrats have shown compassion for Americans.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel

originally posted by: Assassin82
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Ya know, the exact same argument can be said about the Republicans from 2008-2016. I’m not saying one side is right, wrong or indifferent...I’m just saying...both sides spew the same garbage whenever their party is in power or not in power.

With all due respect, I never heard republicans demanding the right to kill newborns at birth, letting 16 year olds or illegal aliens vote, etc. I agree that neither side is perfect, but one side is definitely way out there compared to the other. One side is based on tradition, the other on constant change. And since they won't change to the right, the just keep moving further and further to the left. Like, waaaay left...

Of course, liberal ideals differ greatly from conservative ideals. What one side believes to be true isn’t the same as the other. That’s not the point I’m making. I’m saying that while Obama was in office, the right was crying foul at every turn. Many “republicans” were leaving in masses for the Tea Party, some to the Libertarian party. One could argue the right was “brainwashed” to hate Obama...or just flat out racist and they couldn’t stand a black man in office. (By the way, that’s an unspoken truth...there is a great deal of racism still in Republican Party but nobody around here wants to admit that).

They went after his birth certificate, they challenged his healthcare plan, they yelled “conspiracy” when American guns were winding up in Mexico. I’m not questioning the validity of any of those claims...but it’s the same non stop accusations and calls for investigations that the left is doing now. I didn’t vote for Obama and I didn’t vote for Trump...which makes it a little easier to see that both sides are doing the same thing.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

This was an amazing drama though, all things said.

I wasn't that into it (the witch hunt, Russian collusion, Mueller report suspense) because.. for me the entire thing seemed like reality tv drama on an unseen scale, the highest level of propaganda and influence on Americans. It's hard to explain.

Kind of like how reality tv show moments aren't quite so spontaneous but made to seem so with such thick and alluring realness and drama and to this day, most people who watched those series still don't know it and if you tried to tell them they'd be in disbelief or contempt of you.

I knew that nothing would become of it because it was so mainstream, open to discuss, covered constantly by all major news media. Every time they released a new quick story on it, had a two minute segment, they were blowing it out of proportion making it seem like they could hit Trump with charges at any moment. The fear was such during some parts of his Presidency thus far that some people undoubtedly worried about and quietly considered the possibility that the President could get swept away before they woke up the next day.

Did anyone ever take to consideration the stain it would leave on national history to impeach him on anything less than intentional collusion with Russia at the highest level? In other words, they'd have to have pretty good evidence that Trump himself told people to make moves with Russia for him. The investigation flipped a couple of crooks that they found but is it not circus and peanuts? Manafort, Cohen, Stone were the best that a full federal investigation could do.

originally posted by: MAGAMANIAC
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Democrats be like " We need to raise the age for owning a gun to 21 because kids are not responsible enough "
But we need to lower the voting age to 16 because their voice matters .

Democrats be like " They are ripping children from their mothers arms at the borders " and separating them .
We cant do that to those children.

But go ahead and suck that baby right out of its mothers womb . WOW

Maybe we should lower the voting age to newborn then democrats wont want to kill them?

And this is the problem with Conservatives. They take what one person says and then throw that statement as a blanket across the whole party. Vast majority of Democrats don't believe the voting age should be 16. Vast majority of Democrats would never have an abortion, they simply believe women should have that right. And they are separating children from their parents at the border which is a totally unrelated problem.

I just call it BullShiff

a reply to: carewemust

By forcing everyone to buy insurance from gigantic monopolies at exorbitant rates with deductibles you'll only meet if you get cancer and f# die?

Yeah, how compassionate of them.

a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

And this is the problem with Conservatives. They take what one person says and then throw that statement as a blanket across the whole party.

Isn't that what you just did?



Maybe you both should rethink your approach.

a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

The problem with that is the people dems vote into office to represent them do...and they keep voting them back in. If you don't want other people to view you all like the politicians you should elect ones who represent you better. Seems like those representitives are representative of those who elect them.

originally posted by: projectvxn
Thank whatever diety you subscribe to that Donald Trump was elected president.

Not a politician. Not bought. Actually gives a crap. Calls a spade a spade.

easy there brother

lets just hope he doesnt turn INTO a politician, many people go to DC and lose their soul

Lets hope that Trump doesnt, I hope he can keep himself separated enough that it doesnt happen.

But never put your faith too much in anyone, keep your cautious optimism

Just always be vigilant enough to be able to call them out when they stray

originally posted by: sligtlyskeptical

originally posted by: MAGAMANIAC
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Democrats be like " We need to raise the age for owning a gun to 21 because kids are not responsible enough "
But we need to lower the voting age to 16 because their voice matters .

Democrats be like " They are ripping children from their mothers arms at the borders " and separating them .
We cant do that to those children.

But go ahead and suck that baby right out of its mothers womb . WOW

Maybe we should lower the voting age to newborn then democrats wont want to kill them?

And this is the problem with Conservatives. They take what one person says and then throw that statement as a blanket across the whole party. Vast majority of Democrats don't believe the voting age should be 16. Vast majority of Democrats would never have an abortion, they simply believe women should have that right. And they are separating children from their parents at the border which is a totally unrelated problem.

why is it that the rest of you don't speak up when those few fringe lefties are shouting from the rooftops? If I believed there was sanity on the left, I would feel much better, right now, I don't see any at all. I think you need to look at this from a different perspective.

Democrats "Defrauding the Country with Ridiculous Bulls---"

If it wasn't for fake outrage Democrats would have none at all.

Nothing is going to stop those lying,power hungry charlatans.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

What a bunch of cry babies.

I think the biggest case they could have made was just shut down... the coup is over. Trumps the president, have a beer!

They can't even agree on a platform, let them run around in their panic and fight amongst themselves. It's better to stand back and let them fall.

a reply to: DBCowboy

a reply to: carewemust

Let's see. Trumps new budget wants to give more money for those charter schools at the expense of out special needs kids. But ya they are gonna forget about cutting the special olympics because well that just got too much negative attention. Cuts to special education in general, cuts to services to the blind, cut of funding for the production of books for the blind, and these are only the cuts I remember hearing about. Ya I am sorry but I think it's much more important for the disabled to get the education and tools they need to participate at least to the level of their capability than the special olympics which I think should have funding also. But there hasn't been any mention of them back tracking on those more important services which the lack of could prevent a child from reaching the potential of even being able to be in the special olympics! Their appearent compassion for the unborn is betrayed by their attempt to strip funding for the services that many more children would need if they got thier way and women were blocked from abortion when severe defects are found.
And What are they finding more important than these services? Charter schools, many of which have failed miserably and wasted around a billion dollars. And of course nice big salaries for the top echelon in the dept of education!

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: burdman30ott6

What a bunch of cry babies.

Hold my beer.

The problem, which did take root in both parties, is Progressivism. Progressive ideology is Socialism with Feudalistic management and enforcement. A system that is incompatible with the American ideals of freedom. At best, Progressivism strives to be a capitalistic form of Communism; at its worst, Fascism.

Both Woodrow Wilson and FDR championed it. And Democrats return to it in times of stress as the answer to everything. But make no mistake, but both Bushs were stewards as well. It is said that Teddy Roosevelt was the first Progressive, at least the first to openly claim it. I would argue that Lincoln was the first to employ it judiciously for national policy.

The Fourth Branch of government has always been We the People, it is where all power resides and is the final Check and Balance in our system. And the other three branches are very aware of that fact. Every poor and failed policy stems from trying to subvert that position’s power. The idea sold of that being a “good thing” is the root of Progressivism.

Progressivism is the bull from which all # derives.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
While I agree that the dems are putting themselves in an untenable position, I have a couple of die hard liberals I keep an eye on to see how well the brainwashing is working. Either those two are a special kind of stupid, or the brainwashing is still working.

Seriously, as far off track and out of bounds as the dems have gone the fact that they have anyone left on their side at all is testimony to how well the brainwashing has worked. Even when you point it out to people and call it what it is, they still deny and defend it. Like a battered wife defending her abusive husband, they continually make excuses and say, "You don't understand..."

But we do understand. Very much so. You stay in the abusive relationship because you can't live without it. You can't think for yourself. So you let someone make all the decisions for you and take the battering as if that is a fair price to pay for your own enslavement - which you somehow mistake for protection. Your parents buy your way in to schools you do not qualify for. Liberal professors fill your empty heads with dreams and promises that will never be fulfilled. And a crying room awaits whenever life gets too hard or someone wears a hat that triggers your self defense mechanism - curl up in a ball and cry. You have turned fight or flight, a hundred thousand years of instinct, into shout or cry, a decade of self entitled whining.

Congratulations.

Best post EVER!

a reply to: Whatthedoctorordered

I get what you're saying, but so far, betting against Trump is the reckless thing to do.

a reply to: Ahabstar

To me progressive just simply means foreword movement. It is the opposite of traditional which is to cling to the ways of the past. We need both to check each others tendency. If the traditionalist weren't around the progressives would have us charging full steam ahead leaving most behind toward a cliff of unknowns they do not are because they have their heads in the couds. But at the same time if we didn't have the progressives of the past we would still be under the thumb of the royal families and papal powers who could justify just about anything they wanted to the masses of people who the kept ignorant enough that they couldn't read the words in the little black book that they were told to be from god.
You don't need progressives to have a corrupt system of govt with a powerful stranglehold on the people. But a good way to breed them is to use your power to try to turn back the clock to a time when they didn't have the freedoms and opportunities that do today, undoing that which our progressive forefathers and mothers achieved in the quest for a fairer more equitable society.

a reply to: projectvxn

Not bought? you're kidding right?


Trump is Israel's bagboy, lock stock and barrel.