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originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
Now those who follow the Constitution will immediately point out that all those children born here are US citizens. But I believe that is a perversion of the law. Birthright citizenship was never intended for people who sneak across the border in the middle of the night, hold up in birthing houses, then claim citizenship. It was meant to address the increasing number of new arrivals from Europe and elsewhere in the new USA. People coming here from other nations had to swear loyalty to the USA. Their children were assumed to be loyal to the USA and were not treated as immigrants but instead as citizens. The extension of that citizenship to illegals is just circumventing the law.
This is an interesting point. How would you suggest changing, or clarifying the law so that children born in this country by people here without permission, wouldn't have access to citizenship?
originally posted by: randomtangentsrme
a reply to: Vroomfondel
How does your solution differ from the current laws, and how do we make your solution a law on the books?
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: randomtangentsrme
Technically all Trump would have to do is deny citizenship to a child born of an illegal and there is a good chance the SC would agree. Giving citizenship to illegals is a recent phenomena, it was done by changing practices not changing laws.
originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: mtnshredder
Its is entirely false that illegals coming over have huge problems. Most of the illegals work in fields with massive labor shortages. Texas built 4 of their big cities with illegal labor and it wasn't because it was cheaper. It is because nobody is going into the trades and the boomers (the last trade force) have been retiring.
The problem is subsidizing the companies that use illegals by giving them governmwnt benefits to even out their low pay and lack of workplace benefits.
If you were honest you would know the employees are the real problem. We are literally subsidizing their profits which they often take outside the US monetary system. The illegals pretty much spend everything they make and send some home.
It's a mess but the only big solutions would be create a guest worker program for central America that reflects reality on the ground and eliminate benefits from being so easily obtained by non citizens.
If you were honest you would know the employees are the real problem.
But there simply aren't enough skilled builders around to complete the work. Through the first quarter of 2018, employers have been looking to fill an average of nearly 225,000 construction jobs each month, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That average was eclipsed in only one year going back to 2000, when the BLS first began tracking the data – and that year was 2007, at the tail end of the U.S. housing boom.
We should have been developing central America not the middle east.