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NRA not charitable organization but a terrorist organization

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posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015




Where do people draw the line and why?


Should we give you and your gun grabbers the pen?




posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Or a creatively bent coat hanger.
I didnt say that.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:24 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Yes, a single Apache gunship can wipeout a regiment, that is located and in the open. It is a bit harder with a diverse group intermingled with civilians and friendlies. Harder still is we have a bad habit of parking those Apaches all over the country and they can be utilized by trained pilots after capture. Same goes with other wiz bang items.

All that is beside the point. The purpose of an ad hoc militia is to delay the advancement of an invaiding force until the military can mobilize and engage. In chess terms, militias are pawns. And are there to be sacrificed. BB guns are not going to delay full automatic rifles held by battle hardened soldiers even if they outnumber them a million to one. Lever action 22’s will in superior numbers, but semi automatic rifles even things up a bit in entrenched or hardened positions. The invaiding force would divert to avoid engagement. The militia has the option to flank and pursue to soften the force or to further divert their route.

With that in mind, better weapons equate to smaller groups that are faster to mobilize and respond. With communication between militias, better tactics can be employed such as funneling into a killzone by opposing flanks. Or trap them by terrain to stop their advance and cut off retreat. Becomes a simple bombing run for the military at that point.

But what militias mostly do is respond to natural disasters to help the affected. Just like the National Guard does. Only militias are more open to assist law enforcement by directing trafffic and relief supplies while the Guard can perform search and rescue or temporary construction of shelters, food and water and such. Better utilization of tasks at hand by skill sets that all require manpower.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:36 AM
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a reply to: Ahabstar


Yes, a single Apache gunship can wipeout a regiment, that is located and in the open. It is a bit harder with a diverse group intermingled with civilians and friendlies.


I sexually identify as an Apache gunship, therefor the government must grant me access to dating prospects.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Perhaps.

But there's something to be said about that adage, "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees". If ever the need arises, i like having the option to defend myself.

Especially if while waiting for that day to come i am able to hunt, seek recreation, and maybe protect myself and my property from large predatory animals (including malicious humans).



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:38 AM
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Republican Ben Shapiro has been calling for a constitutional convention. This should be something leftists support if they truly want to redefine the 2nd amendment of the U.S. constitution. Anything else is an act of treason. Same with calls by the left to eliminate the electoral college & due-process. The question I have is why don't people on the left want rights? It seems like something everone should want.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan


Especially if while waiting for that day to come i am able to hunt, seek recreation, and maybe protect myself and my property from large predatory animals (including malicious humans).


This is one of the philosophical reasons I believe in guns, and this might sound silly, but here it goes.

I love America, and I love society, but some don't like the latter. They don't like the pace it moves or the superficial properties that are inherently embedded. Some people just want to opt out. So they get a cabin deep in the woods and hunt for their food, and defend their plot. I truly think that some people think that the government and other entities are trying to take everything that defines us as a free soul on this short ride, and I understand and empathize with that sentiment.

To take the guns would be to take the last connection we have to who we once were, people really living life, and surviving off the land.

I can see why some see this and many other things as an underhanded way to say conform because you don't have a choice.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Its all city vs rural. Or individual vs collective....its the same thing. The more urbanized our nation becomes, the more democratic it will end up being, with collective desire becoming more and more prominent over individual freedom. We see it regularly online, where less urbanized folks express a desire for individual freedoms that city folks cannot fathom having. Like constitutional open or concealed carry. Could you imagine what the people of NYC would do collectively if the city and state allowed unlicensed open or concealed carry?

Part of this is that anything that happens in NYC becomes national news. So the culture and lifestyle there are promoted nationally, with the rural folks getting social pressures to conform to the urban worldview.

The crown jewel in this battle is the electoral college. The city folks dislike our difference of opinion enough that now they want to remove the electoral college to silence our vote.

The battles will become more and more pronounced. And along the way folks on the "freedom fringe" will make us all look like morons while they shoot at sheriffs that try to enter their property.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

Precisely.

It's an attack on harmony.

We were set up to be more governed by states and localities and we see people from across the country telling us how to live.

If you don't like Texas, don't live there. But what gives you the right to tell me Texas is wrong?

I've lived there, it's gorgeous for so many reasons. But it is a different way of life which consequently requires different rules. New York rules don't work in Texas, and vice versa.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:02 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Hence my musings of leaving Ohio. In my lifetime, it has become more totalitarian and heading in bad directions. Downside to living in Appalachia is there is a history of edicts being forced upon them, most commonly in the form of eviction from an area as it is “modernized” and “utilized for society.”

I am not sure all those “resources” have been tapped completely just yet.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Hence my musings of leaving Ohio. In my lifetime, it has become more totalitarian and heading in bad directions. Downside to living in Appalachia is there is a history of edicts being forced upon them, most commonly in the form of eviction from an area as it is “modernized” and “utilized for society.”

I am not sure all those “resources” have been tapped completely just yet.


You hit the nail on the head.

I live in Appalachia now.

We recently had a private company get the go ahead to implement eminent domain on property owners in the mountains for a pipeline.

The governor has stock in that company as do many of those who gave it the go ahead.

The state police suppressed protesters on their own land, some got arrested.

I wasn't one of the ones who this happened to, but some of my friends who are closer to family were effected. It ranks up there in the most pissed off I've ever been.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:10 AM
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Armed citizenry IS the militia. You do not have to be in a group to be considered militia. If circumstances happens to arise, I assure you; people will form groups for protection in numbers.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

I would say it started with the TVA but I would be lying. Trail of Tears is closer to the truth.

Socialism is absolutely oppressive to hermits, why won’t the left stand up for their rights?



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:17 AM
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The NRA is an organization that was created to look over our right to bear arms. It is not a charity, it is a lobbying group. I used to belong for it for years, but the direction it was going in to prevent precedence being used against gun owners was a little too far out there for me in the end. I have no problem with banning fully automatic guns, or those clips that have like thirty rounds, they are not needed. You can change clips in seconds, the big clips just give confidence to some people who are a little bit off tilt.

I do believe we need this organization and if the government starts to go after it again I will join the NRA again. There are factions of our society that want to take away our guns so we can not defend ourselves from criminals and from the people in society who want to dictate every thing we do, usually that kind of person is Far Left, they are the ones who want to force changes they dream up on us. Changes that historically are severely flawed.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:18 AM
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originally posted by: thedigirati
a reply to: dfnj2015

Sorry, it's not us "gun nuts" that want freedom. It's the 2nd amaendment, Kinda like breathing. You don't have to have a gun to live, but for freedom you need a gun to keep it.

When the Bill of Rights was written, men allegedly had integrity. I know that is not the case today. Why have we lost our collective integrity?

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Here is the fly in the ointment regarding the second amendment...…. It was never intended to be individual, it was meant for states to establish a militia to counter balance the federal government in the event it got out of control. Do a little homework on how the NRA through bribes, paying law students $10,000 to write favorable law reviews that got published, and buying chairs at law schools to change how the second amendment was viewed. They interfered with and manipulated our political system.

www.vox.com...

Former 11Bravo, multiple black belt holder and grew up hunting, shooting skeet also reading the Riflemen as we were NRA sporting supporters. The NRA has morphed into a political organization whose goal is for the gun industry to profit. Red, White n Blue tuff guy Wayne Lapierre was a draft dodger. Oliver North is a felon. The NRA has strong ties with Russia..………… What does that tell ya?



Denny



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: Ahabstar

I agree, but the left and the right were both complicit in this case, hence my newfound disdain for them both.

Corporate welfare and socialism looks about the same to me. Different sides to the same coin, one will always be allowed to combat the other.

Liberty is the third less sought option.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Even Mussolini said that fascism is better named as corporatism.

But the Battle of Blair Mountain says it all as to how far it goes.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:40 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Yes, I am for dueling rights. It's part of being personally responsible. It also makes everyone equal.

(you never asked what dueling medium I was for, but fed your own praradigm anyway)

The rest is answered in my profile.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:45 AM
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But the Battle of Blair Mountain says it all as to how far it goes.


Had to look that up, but it was definitely worth the read (I did the cliff notes version).

I think that is a perfect story for this very thread.



posted on Mar, 27 2019 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: Klassified

I still like the idea of quartering troops in the homes of those trying to overturn the Second. By violating their rights they would gain new understanding of other rights and why their protection is needed.

Of course rather than regular Army, I would force a quartering of militia troops like Oathkeepers or 3%’ers. But I am cruel like that.

Unfortunately, only a percentage would actually get it. The rest will still blame it on the guns.




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