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Why don't aliens make there presence known ?

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posted on Apr, 16 2019 @ 12:09 PM
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Humans suck. Thats why




posted on Apr, 16 2019 @ 03:41 PM
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originally posted by: turbonium1
If millions of people had seen aliens before recent times, we'd have written about it, within countless previous documents, ...but this is clearly not the case.



No, it is the case. It's called religion, it's called mythology, it's called history.



posted on Apr, 16 2019 @ 03:44 PM
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originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
You can see photos and films. Do you really think all those old pictures are fake?

What old pictures are you talking about?


I was talking about between the 40's and 80's, before faking photos became a national pastime.



posted on Apr, 16 2019 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: lSkrewloosel
Humans suck. Thats why

Nah, we're fine. I doubt that we'd pose much of a threat or concern to the swarms of shadowy, vicious alien locusts and berskerers out there in the universe, tearing entire solar systems apart and feeding on the brains and dreams of any sad creatures that happen to inhabit them.



posted on Apr, 16 2019 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: Ligyron

"There's lots of mentally ill people that will say anything to get attention, yes."

Really? You think ALL the millions of people who have reported a UFO are mentally ill? This includes presidents, generals, admirals, scientist, astronauts, astronomers, doctors, lawyers, police, firefighters, janitors, your dog... well just about everyone.

And that is not even counting the tens of millions more who have not, because as you know, the polls show that for every reported occurrence, there are ten not reported.

You think they are ALL mentally ill?



edit on 16-4-2019 by spiritualarchitect because: astro no mers



posted on Apr, 16 2019 @ 04:26 PM
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“That's a bold statement.”

Not to me. It is based on years of reading information that has been researched and collected in abundance. It is called history, religion and mythology. You just have to look at it the correct way to see it. That is the part you - and many others - are having trouble with.

“Where can I read about all of this? some shady website writen by a guy who believes Human beings were created 500.000 years ago to mine for gold?”

Shady? The guy was a historian and what he was telling you is what your great grandparents wrote. Once again, it is called history. But if you do not know already where to read about all this and you still do not know that NASA is the real shady one here then you are a newbie and too far behind for me to waste my time trying to catch you up.



edit on 16-4-2019 by spiritualarchitect because: open your minds people



posted on Apr, 16 2019 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
I was talking about between the 40's and 80's, before faking photos became a national pastime.

That doesn't really answer my question, and faking photos has been done almost since the invention of photography.



posted on Apr, 20 2019 @ 01:54 AM
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a reply to: Quantumgamer1776

Considering how many classic cases involved hillbillies opening fire on the space goblins or whatever they are, and how often UFOs play with military bases and nuclear weapons/energy facilities, if these things are space aliens they sure don't have any fear of our weapons.



posted on Apr, 20 2019 @ 03:00 AM
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originally posted by: Svaba
What is so hard about this?


Would you expose yourself, completely different as a species, to a civilization that would just assume kill you or keep you in a cage for 100+ years as a test subject?



posted on Apr, 20 2019 @ 03:58 AM
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They are making their presence known,otherwise we wouldn't be here talking about it.They do so however in a controlled and limited way.The UFO phenomenon walks that fine line between the real and the deniable.



posted on Apr, 20 2019 @ 04:07 AM
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originally posted by: gunshooter
haven't they already in a sense? I mean, all these accounts can't all be made up, or hoaxes over all these years, right? I mean that would be statistically impossible wouldn't it?


An excellent point. I've always thought out of all the many many accounts people have made at least a handful are genuinely true



posted on Apr, 20 2019 @ 05:35 AM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace
Would you expose yourself, completely different as a species, to a civilization that would just assume kill you or keep you in a cage for 100+ years as a test subject?

If I had the means to stop them from killing me or capturing me, yes.



posted on Apr, 20 2019 @ 06:03 AM
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They don't see us as intelligent enough or simply can't see us due to not being from earth and evolved passed primitive things like biological sensory usage for communicating. If they got out of their star system... Successfully survived and eventually thrived, the gap between their intelligence and ours is greater than man and any species on earth. Their brains simply aren't equipped with such aged communicational devices.



posted on Apr, 20 2019 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: MikhailBakunin
They don't see us as intelligent enough or simply can't see us due to not being from earth and evolved passed primitive things like biological sensory usage for communicating. If they got out of their star system... Successfully survived and eventually thrived, the gap between their intelligence and ours is greater than man and any species on earth. Their brains simply aren't equipped with such aged communicational devices.


Why is it that so many think that ET has to be so many millennia beyond Earth?

Terrestrials, good ole Humans from Earth have ALL the pieces necessary to travel the stars, it will only take a few decades or so to actually realize this knowledge in technology, and then, y'all will be the equals of ET.

You see, it isn't an "intelligence" thing, Humans are intellectual equals to Extraterrestrials, the real issue is "time"; y'all haven't had enough time to develop your knowledge, and science into technology...yet.



posted on Apr, 20 2019 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: DonBay

originally posted by: gunshooter
haven't they already in a sense? I mean, all these accounts can't all be made up, or hoaxes over all these years, right? I mean that would be statistically impossible wouldn't it?


An excellent point. I've always thought out of all the many many accounts people have made at least a handful are genuinely true
I resemble that remark. I'm one of the "Real" peoples lol lol

Through the years I have battled intellectually with some of the most brilliant minds ever to grace ATS. I have won some, and lost some, of those battles. But there are areas they dare not debate. Probably for a very good reason.

So, how would a "Alien" communicate with us, without, communicating, with us?

I wonder!



posted on Apr, 21 2019 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: Svaba

(FYI: I'm an software engineer, over 60, involved with the internet and various theories since the 80's, and have been following "alien" stuff since the Schreiber book was published. However, I just joined this forum.)

I believe in "aliens" however, I have a different perspective about who and what they are. I will post about this as soon as I have my "20 replies". However, I do have several questions...

* If "aliens" are so secretive, why do sightings of "UFOs" always seem to be covered with lights? Seems to me that they would want to be more stealthy....

* If aliens have been around flying UFOs for eons, why the hell do they crash so often? I would expect that after flying these things for literally thousands of years, they would have perfected their engineering by now. Statistically compared with regular old Jet Aircraft, based on their seemingly low number vs high failure rate, UFOs are seemingly dropping like files.

* Every alien image or rendering I have ever seen (yes there are many "species") shows these things with gumby-like jelly bodies with extremely little ability to articulate their hands, arms, legs, etc. How can they possibly manipulate physical tools well enough to construct even a doghouse, much less a very physically complex UFO "spaceship"?

* Why are there so many different types, sizes and shapes of aliens? Does anyone here have a plausible reason for that? I have my own theory, but I want other ideas, and I can't post yet.

* I understand the "bending space/time concept", but that is just an unproven theory. (Remember, science claims that, with film footage, footprints, and *million*s of eyewitnesses worldwide, that "Bigfoot" is either a "man in a suit", "bear", "mass illusion", etc.) so... It seems a little bit of a stretch to me that UFOs are able to travel here from tens to millions of light years away. I have heard people say that they came here as a result of "monitoring our technology", radio frequency emissions, the atomic bomb explosions, etc. If they are millions of LIGHT years away, how could they respond to these FAR SLOWER THAN LIGHT signals from earth in such a seemingly relative immediate way?

I'm sorry, but I tent to want to look at thins in a "plausible" fashion. Some of the UFO info I hear does not seem to "jive" with other UFO info. Perhaps there is a lot of misinformation.

Occam's Razor makes a lot of sense to me.

Thanks!



posted on Apr, 21 2019 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: LWB78750
* Every alien image or rendering I have ever seen (yes there are many "species") shows these things with gumby-like jelly bodies with extremely little ability to articulate their hands, arms, legs, etc. How can they possibly manipulate physical tools well enough to construct even a doghouse, much less a very physically complex UFO "spaceship"?

The hands are difficult to draw.


PS: welcome to ATS.



posted on Apr, 22 2019 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: LWB78750
a reply to: Svaba

(FYI: I'm an software engineer, over 60, involved with the internet and various theories since the 80's, and have been following "alien" stuff since the Schreiber book was published. However, I just joined this forum.)

I believe in "aliens" however, I have a different perspective about who and what they are. I will post about this as soon as I have my "20 replies". However, I do have several questions...

* If "aliens" are so secretive, why do sightings of "UFOs" always seem to be covered with lights? Seems to me that they would want to be more stealthy....

* If aliens have been around flying UFOs for eons, why the hell do they crash so often? I would expect that after flying these things for literally thousands of years, they would have perfected their engineering by now. Statistically compared with regular old Jet Aircraft, based on their seemingly low number vs high failure rate, UFOs are seemingly dropping like files.

* Every alien image or rendering I have ever seen (yes there are many "species") shows these things with gumby-like jelly bodies with extremely little ability to articulate their hands, arms, legs, etc. How can they possibly manipulate physical tools well enough to construct even a doghouse, much less a very physically complex UFO "spaceship"?

* Why are there so many different types, sizes and shapes of aliens? Does anyone here have a plausible reason for that? I have my own theory, but I want other ideas, and I can't post yet.

* I understand the "bending space/time concept", but that is just an unproven theory. (Remember, science claims that, with film footage, footprints, and *million*s of eyewitnesses worldwide, that "Bigfoot" is either a "man in a suit", "bear", "mass illusion", etc.) so... It seems a little bit of a stretch to me that UFOs are able to travel here from tens to millions of light years away. I have heard people say that they came here as a result of "monitoring our technology", radio frequency emissions, the atomic bomb explosions, etc. If they are millions of LIGHT years away, how could they respond to these FAR SLOWER THAN LIGHT signals from earth in such a seemingly relative immediate way?

I'm sorry, but I tent to want to look at thins in a "plausible" fashion. Some of the UFO info I hear does not seem to "jive" with other UFO info. Perhaps there is a lot of misinformation.

Occam's Razor makes a lot of sense to me.

Thanks!

So who says ETs are 'secretive''? They're obviously not. They have avoided open contact with the world at large, so far, and so appear elusive to us. This may be part of a plan to very gradually accustom us to their presence, instead of barging in all at once. That could cause severe problems, as careless contacts between previously unacquainted human groups have shown.
Tales of crashed UFOs are often unsubstantiated. Even if this has happened on occasion, it's not at all clear that this is a common occurrence. We should realize that no technology can be expected to work perfectly, no matter how advanced. The better the technology, the more challenging the demands placed upon it. There will always be a margin for error.
If we follow the reports that ETs come in a variety of shapes, how can they all have jelly-like bodies, and clumsy appendages? Those that do may be wearing suits to protect them from an unfamiliar environment. Many reports appear to describe agile, tool-manipulating entities. The variety of shapes reported for extraterrestrials could simply reflect the fact that we are seeing independently evolved beings,the citizens of many different worlds.

We do not yet know how it might be possible to travel swiftly between the stars. There is already a theoretical foundation for warping space in pursuit of this goal. Dr. White, at NASA, is already testing a version of this theory in his experimental laboratory, with some intriguing preliminary results.

It may be that our technological activities have made us conspicuous to nearby extraterrestrials, and that this has sparked their interest in us. Our radio waves have already touched many star systems. Even some of our space probes have, or soon will leave our solar system, and begin their journeys to the stars.







 
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