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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Halfswede
You make an excellent point!
If Smollet is innocent, then there should be a doubled down effort to find the perpetrators of this alleged hate crime!!
I certainly don’t think all black people should be ashamed
Well I do, but I think ALL people should be ashamed
Why should a black persons feel anymore shame just cause this guy was black?
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
If I was a black gay man I would be ashamed of what has happened with Smollet.
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Grambler
I certainly don’t think all black people should be ashamed
Well I do, but I think ALL people should be ashamed
Why should a black persons feel anymore shame just cause this guy was black?
You're right.
I said that, but maybe it comes off the wrong way, and that's not what I meant. Perhaps rather than "ashamed" maybe I should have said "FURIOUS". I guess that's more what I meant.
Smollet just made a public mockery of everything they've been fighting for, and in so doing has marginalized their cause for possibly a whole generation if not more.
ETA - Maybe what I really should have said is..."should be ashamed of Smollet as a representative of either the gay or black communities"
3. They don't involve a PRESIDENT (...unless it's a Clinton)
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Grambler
I'm still trying to focus my original 'shame' comment.
There is an element of shame that I'm trying (unsuccessfully so far) to articulate. Let me try again...
If I were a gay or black man, I would be ashamed someone of my same race and/or orientation would perpetrate such a hate inspiring hoax in an effort to further my real-world cause. I would be ashamed that someone in power and of my same race and/or orientation would use their power to intervene and obstruct the justice process in such an outrageous hoax and failed publicity stunt, that they would choose the Smollet case as the example to justify my cause. I would be ashamed that someone of my same orientation and race would marginalize my real-world struggles by obscuring the reality (a reality all can see) so the media can use it as an example for political gain. I would be ashamed that their influence, power and egos meant more to them than I and my treatment as an equal did. I would be truly ashamed to be identified with those people because I can't change my orientation or race.
Does that capture it a little better?
It's like the same shame I feel as a white conservative male when some nutcase perpetrates some horrible crime in the name of white male conservatives.