KOMO News: Seattle is Dying

Some people can't fathom that a place they live has turned into a chitehole. LOL got co-workers who have lived there for years moving to a more rural area. LOL, my daughter, that is just out of college and has a distinctly liberal bent even has said on multi visits there, it feels different, like its off-kilter. An air of if you aren't from Seattle you are less. Very much regional biased.

The entire Left Coast is dyin on the vine

Seattle is a beautiful city but its liberal attitudes have gone too far left and it is killing the city. It is a slow death, but anyone without blinders on can see it happening.

Wife and I took a vacation there and could not believe how bad the homeless /drug addict population is downtown. It is out of control.

While Seattle economy has boomed with the influx of tech money, their coddling of the homeless/grunge types is making the city uninhabitable. Much like San Francisco, Seattle and Portland are becoming literal sh*tholes.

originally posted by: toysforadults
Anyway Seattle has had one of if not the hottest housing market in the country for the past 10 years

But isn't that precisely why there are so many homeless? Because some people can't keep up with the rent increases?

Looks like more no go zones, this is what happens with a liberal agenda. I wouldn't want to visit these days, it doesn't look safe..........


........is exactly what would be posted all over ATS if this was somewhere in Europe. So, does the same hold true because it is in America instead?

originally posted by: starviego

originally posted by: toysforadults
Anyway Seattle has had one of if not the hottest housing market in the country for the past 10 years

But isn't that precisely why there are so many homeless? Because some people can't keep up with the rent increases?

No. The two aren't related... one has nothing to do with the other.

The chronic homeless in Seattle are drug addicts and mentally unstable folks by in large. They'd be homeless regardless because they cannot function in society. They aren't homeless because some Dual Income No Kids (DINKS) professional yuppies are buying $1 million dollar condos. They are homeless because of drug addiction and they can't hold any kind of job or do anything product beyond look for their next high. Or the voices in their heads prevent any kind of employment, etc.

originally posted by: starviego

originally posted by: toysforadults
Anyway Seattle has had one of if not the hottest housing market in the country for the past 10 years

But isn't that precisely why there are so many homeless? Because some people can't keep up with the rent increases?

It's a part of the issue, but the real reason why there are so many homeless and homefree people in Seattle is because they allow them mass amounts of leeway. Homeless and homefree people can literally get away with murder, rape, home invasions, and the cops can't do a thing about it unless the victim can make a scene about it where the media gets involved. It's embarrassing to go there for anything since as soon as you get into the city you are being assaulted for this and that, and there's nothing you can do about it. (not physically assaulted, it's usually just people asking you for stuff or bitching at you because you don't want to give them stuff, or somebodies high and they want to the be high with them, but yes physical assaults happen too, and so does the random rape too)

So unless it makes the Seattle PD look bad in the press they don't lift a figure to do much because they have to answer to the city council and civilian advisory board for everything they do. So in the end they just do very little. It's a bunch of crap how the city does their business and screws everyone they can by not doing anything but cause problems. Hell I remember the city council allowing for two protests with opposite views and violent tendencies to run not only the same day, but also mandated then to end up at the same location at the same time. When the press found out about it, they claimed it was an oversite, but then did it again a week later. Remember the council person I named earlier? Well during a strike at Boeing, she was telling the workers to burn down the factory where they worked to show the company who was in charge. The place is a disaster, and I personally feel that the ONLY reason they like having the homeless and homefree people around is so that they can feel so much more superior bout themselves when they give a beggar a buck or two.

This isn't to say that everyone in the city is like this, in fact I know a few people that live in some of the neighborhoods that are quite the opposite, but for whatever reason the people that either work downtown or live in downtown think that as long as they appear better off then you; they are.

originally posted by: Flavian
Looks like more no go zones, this is what happens with a liberal agenda. I wouldn't want to visit these days, it doesn't look safe..........


........is exactly what would be posted all over ATS if this was somewhere in Europe. So, does the same hold true because it is in America instead?

Rule of thumb, if there is used toilet paper and the poop still attached , it's a no-go zone. And I'm not being funny.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: starviego
But isn't that precisely why there are so many homeless? Because some people can't keep up with the rent increases?

No. The two aren't related... one has nothing to do with the other.

The chronic homeless in Seattle are drug addicts and mentally unstable folks by in large.

We had plenty of "the lame, the lazy and the crazy" back in my day too. But we also had low-cost housing to sop them up. Now we don't have that.

It's a supply and demand issue, not a drug abuse/mental illness issue.

You can't let in more than two million immigrants a year and not have a constant, ongoing housing crisis. If you can understand the game of 'musical chairs,' you can understand why we have so many homeless. There are always more people looking for housing than there are houses.

a reply to: starviego


Oh it's way beyond that in Seattle. It's not an issue with low cost housing, in fact we have that but local and state politicians buy the homes up and use them for rental properties. Here's an issue and the solution the city does, then I'll follow that up with a better way;

Too many people don't have housing:
Seattle solution, give free tiny houses (aka converted storage sheds) and allow them to control who can and can not visit the houses.

Real solution, use the same property to build apartment complex that can house more people, and housing officials can help people who live there and get back on track with their lives.

Seattle likes the tiny house solution since they can get high schoolers to build the places for free, and then the city doesn't have to do anything more then show up for opening day with the press. While the apartment solution would require the city to actually do more then just a press show and tell.

originally posted by: Guyfriday
a reply to: starviego


Oh it's way beyond that in Seattle. It's not an issue with low cost housing, in fact we have that but local and state politicians buy the homes up and use them for rental properties. Here's an issue and the solution the city does, then I'll follow that up with a better way;

Too many people don't have housing:
Seattle solution, give free tiny houses (aka converted storage sheds) and allow them to control who can and can not visit the houses.

Real solution, use the same property to build apartment complex that can house more people, and housing officials can help people who live there and get back on track with their lives.

Seattle likes the tiny house solution since they can get high schoolers to build the places for free, and then the city doesn't have to do anything more then show up for opening day with the press. While the apartment solution would require the city to actually do more then just a press show and tell.

The ironic thing is that housing in San Fran, Portland, and Seattle is expensive because of liberal policies. They just can't connect dots. They create zoning, NIMBY, rent control, and affordable housing policies that do nothing but increase the cost of housing while doing little to actual help the people they claim to be helping.

originally posted by: toysforadults
I love watching right wingers grasp at straws and regurgitate their favorite right wing talking points in threads like this

Anyway Seattle has had one of if not the hottest housing market in the country for the past 10 years and the city is booming and the locals love it there

God you guys are laughable

The locals love it here? How do you know? What part of Seattle do you call home? I've lived here for 50 years and this city is no longer recognizable as the place I grew up. My rent has more than doubled in the past 5 years and utilities groceries have gone up about the same. You can't leave anything outside or in your car, because it WILL be stolen (I left a pair of muddy boots next to my front door one night only to find them gone in the morning, and someone broke the window on my car to steal a jacket. They curled up in the back seat and took a nap leaving a turd-encrusted blanket).

The filth and trash dumping EVERYWHERE has destroyed the parks and greenbelts, and ruined what were once thriving ecosystems. There are orange caps and discarded syringes EVERYWHERE, public places reek of human waste, and there are absolutely insane drug-crazed urban camper criminals EVERYWHERE. Cops can't do anything about it unless there is a violent crime, but the city of Seattle will target you if you have a car or home or business with tickets and taxes.

I would not want to raise a family here and began making plans to move in January. No place is perfect, but this city I used to love has become an over-priced embarrassment with no bright future on the horizon.

ETA: My family and most of my friends have already moved out of the city or in many cases out of the state, with the possible exception of my sister who might be living in one of the homeless encampments. Insurance rates have also gone up regionally due to the massive increase in property crimes.

a reply to: infolurker

What a depressing video. One thing for sure -- if the flow of cheap, pure meth and heroin from Mexico continues, the worst of the problems in Seattle will not go away. And if the city doesn't leverage its wealth to somehow rehabilitate homeless addicts, the homeless problem not going away either.

a reply to: seattlerat

You sound like a cry baby libural

Trust me people plenty of people love living in Seattle that's why its had the hottest housing market in the country for the last decade.

You are just projecting your own misery into the city.

Majority of you are just looking for confirmation bias to confirm your narrative of liburals = bad even though it's the extreme left progressives and not liberals you dont like

YAWN BORING TRY AGAIN

a reply to: toysforadults

You didn't answer my question: How do you know the locals love it here?

You don't know me and you obviously don't know "locals". I know what this city was like, and I've lived through the changes in the past few years. Just because I don't want to live in a trash-filled crime-ridden city that is too expensive for the average person does not mean I'm a liberal, a cry baby, or miserable. If anything it means that I am like my neighbors who feel the same way and are fed up.

a reply to: toysforadults


Again you either are in denial or don't have to deal with Seattle. The place is a crime infested mess, peppered with homeless homefree and druggies of all walks of like crapping where ever, shooting up where ever, and getting away with crime due to the hands off approach that the Police Chief has set up.

You seem to think that because the housing market is so hot that the place must be a great place to live. What you don't seem to know is that many people in Seattle are leaving town for better places like Bremerton, Port Orchard, Federal Way, hell even Tacoma have gotten a boost from the cesspool that Seattle has become. The reason they say Seattle has a hot housing market is because Real-estate Agents are pushing the location as a selling point to out of stators, but people that live in Washington are not really into buying houses in town due to the ridiculous taxation the city has, and for the mount of crime vs the number of police officers.

Another issue the city has is that if you own a car you either have no where to park in many neighborhoods, or you can't drive your car on many of the roads in down town. Then there is the issue with the "unauthorized city campers" and where ever you go you will see either a tent setup in parks, or see a motor home parked on the side of the road or in a parking lot for days on end. Sure that's fine you say, but not when the "unauthorized city campers" set up in your backyard, and the police won't do anything about it, or when they block your drive way and again you can't do much about it.

So toysforadults, do you have any real evidence that this Seattle of yours is such a great place to live other than the housing market? Also just so we're all clear here are we are talking about Seattle, Washington, and not Seattle, Fantasy Land.

Remember when Seattle used to have massive protest against NAFTA/WTO? Oh right. Wondering who controls Seattle now?

a reply to: seattlerat

Let's debate anecdotes that's a great idea

Sorry fellas. Hotting housing market for ten years speaks for itself. People want to live there and they are willing to pay a high price to do so.

I also have a few friends who live there and love it.

Anyway back to work...

a reply to: toysforadults

You just don't get it.
The commie pinko socialist scum dogs have taken over Seattle. Probly Muslims, to boot.

a reply to: toysforadults
So nothing more than "houses sell". Try visiting your friends and checking out the town, go sit in a city council meeting, or just watch the local news.

a reply to: Phage

Basically.